Tuesday 21 February 1664/65

Up, and to the office (having a mighty pain in my forefinger of my left hand, from a strain that it received last night) in struggling ‘avec la femme que je’ mentioned yesterday, where busy till noon, and then my wife being busy in going with her woman to a hot-house to bathe herself, after her long being within doors in the dirt, so that she now pretends to a resolution of being hereafter very clean. How long it will hold I can guess. I dined with Sir W. Batten and my Lady, they being now a’days very fond of me. So to the ‘Change, and off of the ‘Change with Mr. Wayth to a cook’s shop, and there dined again for discourse with him about Hamaccos and the abuse now practised in tickets, and more like every day to be. Also of the great profit Mr. Fen makes of his place, he being, though he demands but 5 per cent. of all he pays, and that is easily computed, but very little pleased with any man that gives him no more. So to the office, and after office my Lord Brunkerd carried me to Lincolne’s Inne Fields, and there I with my Lady Sandwich (good lady) talking of innocent discourse of good housewifery and husbands for her daughters, and the luxury and looseness of the times and other such things till past 10 o’clock at night, and so by coach home, where a little at my office, and so to supper and to bed. My Lady tells me how my Lord Castlemayne is coming over from France, and is believed will be made friends with his Lady again. What mad freaks the Mayds of Honour at Court have: that Mrs. Jenings, one of the Duchesses mayds, the other day dressed herself like an orange wench, and went up and down and cried oranges; till falling down, or by such accident, though in the evening, her fine shoes were discerned, and she put to a great deale of shame; that such as these tricks being ordinary, and worse among them, thereby few will venture upon them for wives: my Lady Castlemayne will in merriment say that her daughter (not above a year old or two) will be the first mayde in the Court that will be married. This day my Lord Sandwich writ me word from the Downes, that he is like to be in towne this week.

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Terry Foreman   Link to this

Catholic intrigue

Bennet to Ormond
Written from: Whitehall

Date: 21 February 1665
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The King seems to purpose, with respect to Colonel [Richard] Talbot,
http://www.pepysdiary.com/encyclopedia/4066/
to order him to be taken out of the Tower, but not to see him or to permit his return to Court.

Notices the prorogation of Parliament; and the purport of intelligence received from France.

http://www.bodley.ox.ac.uk/dept/scwmss/projects...

Terry Foreman   Link to this

Medway Navigation.

Mr. Milward reports from the Committee to which the Bill, sent from the Lords, for making navigable the River Medway in the County of Kent and Sussex, . . . . some Amendments agreed to be made, and Provisoes to be added, to the Bill: Which he read, with the Coherence, in his Place; and after delivered the same at the Clerk's Table: Which were twice read;.... Resolved, &c. Resolved, &c. That the Proviso, so amended, be agreed to. http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?co...

No prorogation of Parliament, contra Bennet?

jeannine   Link to this

What mad freaks the Mayds of Honour at Court have the Mrs Jennings, one of the Duchesses mayds, the other day dressed herself like an orange wench…

From Beauties of the Court of Charles II” by Mrs. Jameson

The cause of the ‘shameful’ outing of Miss Jennings and a Miss Price was that they had been duped into the first of the many ongoing and outlandish frolics of a now 18 year old Lord Rochester, who was parading as a German doctor and astrologer. After Rochester found himself “being forbidden at court, he undertook to reveal the past and future to all whom curiosity or credulity might lead to his enchanted den, somewhere near the precincts of Drury-lane. Rochester’s wit and self-possession, and his knowledge of all of the private scandal of the town gave him and advantage over all the conjurors before or since. The fame of his extraordinary revelations reached the court, and spread astonishment and consternation throughout the whole tribe of abigails; even the Maid of Honour began to flutter with wonder, curiosity, and apprehension. “

The ladies were overcome by their curiosity and snuck out on the Duchess of York. They disguised themselves with hopes of being unnoticed on their way. While dressed as wenches they were approached by Sydney and Killigrew whose lecherous manners frighten them. Brounker, one of the DOY’s equerries recognized the ladies and, pretending that he thought them to be orange sellers, addressed them with so much freedom and insolence that it caused an embarrassing squabble to start and a crowd to gather. According to Mrs. Jameson, Broucker then stepped out and left the ladies to fend for themselves.

Grammont, in his Memoirs seemed to believe that Brounker knew their destination, toyed with them and then left them to go to see Rochester where he was sure that they would be ‘used sexually’ by him. His version is that
“Brounker, on the other hand, would not have taken a thousand guineas for this rencounter; he blessed the Lord that he had not alarmed them to such a degree as to frustrate their intention; for he made no doubt but Miss Price had managed some intrigue for Miss Jennings: he therefore immediately concluded, that at present it would be improper to make known his discovery, which would have answered no other end but to have overwhelmed them with confusion.
Upon this account, although Jermyn [who Miss Jennings was hoping to marry] was one of his best friends, he felt a secret joy in not having prevented his being made a cuckold, before his marriage; and the apprehension he was in of preserving him from that accident, was his sole reason for quitting them with the precautions afore-mentioned. “

Grammont tells the story in detail in Chapter X. Most of that chapter is about Rochester, if you care to read it all, or you can scroll down and find the highlighted “famous German doctor” and read from there
http://www.pseudopodium.org/repress/grammont/ch...

Rochester’s famous speech as Dr. Bendo is here
http://www.pseudopodium.org/repress/grammont/no...

CGS   Link to this

looseness of the times??? A fox in the hen house??"...my Lady Sandwich (good lady) talking of innocent discourse of good housewifery and husbands for her daughters, and the luxury and looseness of the times and other such things till past 10 o’clock at night,..."

Paul Chapin   Link to this

"the luxury and looseness of the times"

Here "luxury" means 'lasciviousness, lust', a meaning it has since lost.
OED:
†1. Lasciviousness, lust; pl. lusts. Obs.
1340 Ayenb. 157 Þe dyeuel+assayletþ+þane sanguinien mid ioliuete and mid luxurie. c1386 Chaucer Man of Law's T. 827 O foule lust of luxurie. c1450 Knt. de la Tour (1868) 58 Leude touchinge and handelyng+makithe+folke falle into orible synne of luxurie. 1577 tr. Bullinger's Decades (1592) 234 Therewithal he doth inclusiuely vnderstand all kindes of lust and luxurie. 1602 Marston Antonio's Rev. ii. iii. Wks. 1856 I. 96 Mellida is light, And stained with adulterous luxury. 1661 Lovell Hist. Anim. & Min. 89 The ashes of the claws with that of the skinne, being applied helpe luxury in man or woman. 1728 Morgan Algiers I. v. 163 To say nothing of the Luxury and Debaucheries which reigned in the Camps, which he describes as the filthiest of Brothels. 1812 Crabbe Tales, Squire & Priest (1814) II. 91 Grov'lling in the sty+of shameless luxury.

Paul Chapin   Link to this

"the abuse now practised in tickets"

Here I think "tickets" has the following meaning from OED:
6. a. A pay-warrant; esp. a discharge warrant in which the amount of pay due to a soldier or sailor is certified. Also, any certificate of discharge from service, prison, etc.; freq. in phr. to work one's ticket, to obtain (by scheming) one's discharge.
1596 Spenser State Irel. Wks. (Globe) 657/2 There should be a pay-master appoynted, of speciall trust, which should paye everye man according to his captaynes tickett, and the accompte of the clarke of his bande. 1665 Pepys Diary 5 Dec., Mr. Stevens, who is+paying of seamen of their tickets at Deptford. 1836 Marryat Midsh. Easy xl, Gascoigne, having received his discharge-ticket, went on board of the Rebiera. 1849 Macaulay Hist. Eng. iii. I. 299 The sailors were paid with so little punctuality that they were glad to find some usurer who would purchase their tickets at forty per cent discount. 1858 Simmonds Dict. Trade, Ticket, Seaman's, a register ticket given to seamen from the General Register and Record office of Seamen. 1869 Temple Bar XXV. 217 ‘Coiners’+as a rule returned to their profession as soon as they got their ‘ticket’. Prison is+a great punishment to such men. 1899 H. Wyndham Queen's Service xxxiii. 231 It is a comparatively easy matter for a discontented man to ‘work his ticket’. 1952 M. Allingham Tiger in Smoke iv. 77 He+attempted to work his ticket to one of these new-style open prisons. 1970 W. Smith Gold Mine xxiv. 56 My boss boy has worked his ticket.+ Can you see that I get a good man to replace him?

CGS   Link to this

To day it be clear your "Peers" will be free holders,
nun of yer common volk to serve on the jurie.
so says the H of C. ( see above._)
Juries:
".., and none but Freeholders to be admitted to serve as Jurors;..."

no orange hawkers apply.

CGS   Link to this

He duthe soond like me:"..writ me word from..'

Michael Robinson   Link to this

"What mad freaks the Mayds of Honour at Court have ..."

Thanks Jeannine: Grammont's account is hilarious!

Mary   Link to this

"a mighty pain in my forefinger...."

Mrs. Bagwell is, at the very least, playing hard-to-get. Sam's comments about the general misconduct at Court definitely fall into the 'mote and beam' category.

andy   Link to this

a strain that it received last night) in struggling ‘avec la femme

looks like Sam was violent with Mrs B., which clarifies how consensual the relationship really is.

Robert Gertz   Link to this

"...my wife being busy in going with her woman to a hot-house to bathe herself, after her long being within doors in the dirt, so that she now pretends to a resolution of being hereafter very clean. How long it will hold I can guess." Hmmn...Never a complaint about her physical cleanliness before. I can't believe Sam himself is exactly a daily bather. Could be that some of his complaints and arguments with Bess have been regarding house cleanliness and maintenance. Curious that Sam doesn't go more for some of the new fangled washtubs and such...At least he makes no mention of them. I was just at a 17th century reconstructed American mansion which featured a water closet and a bathtub with a filled tank to allow hot, (more or less running) water. I would think one trip to a bath or "hot" house would sell our fastidious boy on the joys of daily bathing and he'd long ago have purchased the most modern system he could but perhaps concerns about health hinder him in this.

Robert Gertz   Link to this

Hmmn...Without the good ole usual odor Sam's grown attached to will Bess be more or less attractive to him? Guess we'll see if he spends more hours in bed in the morning, "laying long with pleasure...".
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No mention of the dangerously pretty new maid as yet...Perhaps Bess was joking. And not crazy enough to tempt fate.

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Mercer continues to hang tough...How does she do it? Must be an extremely pleasant young lady...And wise enough to keep away from Sam as much as possible.

Todd Bernhardt   Link to this

"looks like Sam was violent with Mrs B., which clarifies how consensual the relationship really is."

Yeah, not so "Oh Sir Jasper" after all, I guess.

(Yet she was waiting to be his Valentine! Go figure. Perhaps "struggling" has a different connotation here?)

CGS   Link to this

Officially w/c's did not became availble to the GP until 1758, there be some exceptions.
Bathing and wash houses be down the street before they progressed to down the hallway of the 20th century to the amazement of visitors to the great city.
W/C OED:
A closet or small room fitted up to serve as a privy, and furnished with water-supply to flush the pan and discharge its contents into a waste-pipe below. Often abbreviated W.C.
Sometimes applied to the pan and the connected apparatus for flushing and discharge; also, loosely, to any kind of privy.
1755 Connoisseur No. 100 It was always my office..to attend him in the water-closet when he took a cathartic. 1760 H. WALPOLE Let. to G. Montagu 25 Oct., A little after seven, he went into the water-closet.
wiki:
1738: A valve-type flush toilet was invented by J. F. Brondel.

# circa 15th century BC: Flush toilets used in the Minoan city of Akrotiri.
# 1st to 5th centuries AD: Flush toilets were used throughout the Roman Empire. Some examples include those at Vindolanda on Hadrian's Wall in Britain. With the fall of the Roman Empire, the technology was lost in the West

Even in the 20 th century some people of the unwashed class thought that the bath was for storing coal. As in-house bath were for the posh , as they would have to go to the end of the street for a rinse off.

The bombing of WWII advanced the cause of godliness and cleanliness and the abandoning fruitful BO.

The shower was not always part of the standard of living.

Michael Robinson   Link to this

“looks like Sam was violent with Mrs B., which clarifies how consensual the relationship really is.”
... "Yet she was waiting to be his Valentine! Go figure."

On the 14th. she appears to be flirting:-
"...and, opening the door, there was Bagwell’s wife, with whom I talked afterwards, and she had the confidence to say she came with a hope to be time enough to be my Valentine, and so indeed she did, but my oath preserved me from loosing any time with her,
http://www.pepysdiary.com/diary/1665/02/14/

Yet SP is having nothing to do with it and considers any response in some sense 'oath breaking.' But on the 20th. he writes a letter and sets about collecting
what he appears to sees a 'trade' of favors. Do direct bargains trump oaths for S.P.?

Could Mrs. B have been hurt about being rejected on the 14th., and sees the 20th. as a question of getting even in an emotional sense (one rejection meriting another), rather than the matter of fact direct bargain of SP's perception, hence her resistance?

And where is Mr. B, is he at sea now? On the first occasion he had exited after supper at a convenient moment ... curiouser and curiouser.

CGS   Link to this

'Tis wot the the brain be for, to justify ones actions that be contrary to other good actions.
The seven deadly sins must be justified when it comes to ones pleasures.
We all be epicureans, just that some be more so than others.

Res Ipsa   Link to this

I think Bagwell is doing what she needs to do for her family, and that (for the times) her behavior is consistent. She's trying to get her hubby a better position, no matter how much she loathes the process. Its a matter of necessity. However, I wonder if Sam had treated her with some respect on the 14th, would he have had to resort to rape yesterday? Or, would she have acquiesed, even though not necessarily totally willing?

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