Monday 18 March 1660/61

This morning early Sir W. Batten went to Rochester, where he expects to be chosen Parliament man.

At the office all the morning, dined at home and with my wife to Westminster, where I had business with the Commissioners for paying the seamen about my Lord’s pay, and my wife at Mrs. Hunt’s.

I called her home, and made inquiry at Greatorex’s and in other places to hear of Mr. Barlow (thinking to hear that he is dead), but I cannot find it so, but the contrary. Home and called at my Lady Batten’s, and supped there, and so home.

This day an ambassador from Florence was brought into the town in state.

Good hopes given me to-day that Mrs. Davis is going away from us, her husband going shortly to Ireland. Yesterday it was said was to be the day that the Princess Henrietta was to marry the Duke d’Anjou in France.

This day I found in the newes-booke that Roger Pepys is chosen at Cambridge for the town, the first place that we hear of to have made their choice yet.

To bed with my head and mind full of business, which do a little put me out of order, and I do find myself to become more and more thoughtful about getting of money than ever heretofore.


18 Mar 2004, 11:38 p.m. - Glyn

Good hopes given me to-day that Mrs. Davis is going away from us, It's pathetic to see how scared Pepys seems to be of the old lady - did she have that effect on everyone, or was it just him?

19 Mar 2004, midnight - Josh

"I do find myself to become more and more thoughtful about getting of money than ever heretofore." In case you thought he had been holding back. But will he describe his diligence as "painful"? (See annotations to yesterday's entry.) One doubts it, somehow.

19 Mar 2004, 2:15 a.m. - Pauline

"Good hopes given me to-day that Mrs. Davis is going away from us..." This is the "lady" (his neighbor) who locked Pepys's access to the leads against him. I too am glad she is likely to leave.

19 Mar 2004, 2:37 a.m. - Pauline

"But will he describe his diligence as 'painful'?” I hope there was some pain in the painstaking step of going round to see how Barlow’s stint here on earth was going. Remember, Sam is paying Barlow L100 a year for life his reversion to Sam’s post as Clerk of the Acts, and Sam had taken heart in how old and decrepit Barlow appeared.

19 Mar 2004, 3:15 a.m. - Susan

It seems Elizabeth's knees made an overnight recovery!

19 Mar 2004, 3:17 a.m. - Susan

Was SP so interested this week in finding out if Barlow was still alive because it was about to be Lady Day (March 25th) and thus pay day?? Maybe he hoped he would not have to pay up. One hundred pounds sterling a year was a considerable sum.

19 Mar 2004, 5:02 a.m. - Ruben

I found in the newes-booke that Roger Pepys is chosen at Cambridge for the town, the first place that we hear of to have made their choice yet... News-booke is News-paper? Chosen at Cambridge for the town ? For what? for Parliament?

19 Mar 2004, 7:13 a.m. - Mary

Elizabeth's knees We seem to have leapt to the conclusion that she damaged the joints themselves. Perhaps she simply grazed them badly; painful and a nuisance at the time, but hardly serious.

19 Mar 2004, 8:31 a.m. - Ruben

Elizabeth's knees were only 20 or 21 years old (or young). So no wonder she was OK next day. (How did they say OK in SP’s world?

19 Mar 2004, 8:58 a.m. - Kevin Sheerstone

Ruben - Chosen at Cambridge... Yes, as a Member Of Parliament for the town. The University elected its own MP's (two of them!), having been granted that right in 1615.

19 Mar 2004, 9:31 a.m. - Kevin Sheerstone

Newes-booke. Yes Ruben, newspaper was my interpretation, although I have always been under the impression that newspapers ("broadsheets") made their appearance in the 18th.c. The only other interpretation I can think of is that the newes-booke was perhaps a more comprehensive version of the Court Circular, chronicling the goings-on not only at the Court, but in the law, politics and the corridors of power.

19 Mar 2004, 10 a.m. - Matthew

Getting of money: I wonder if the subject of covetousness is ever mentioned in the sermons he attends?

19 Mar 2004, 10:41 a.m. - The Bishop

Go here to see the term newsbook explained- http://www.pepysdiary.com/diary/1660/05/04/#c4495 And see the first two entries here- http://www.pepysdiary.com/diary/1660/01/09/ This is the first page of newsbook from 1659, but it's been blown up to two or three times its normal size. Remember, they're pamphlets, no broadsheets. http://www.loc.gov/rr/news/images/mercpol.jpg

19 Mar 2004, 11:40 a.m. - Pedro.

Shame I cry! Someone must stand up for poor old Mrs.Davis against the "Sam can do no wrong lobby." No doubt I will be corrected if I am wrong, but Mrs.Davis was there before our Sam. Then along comes the young upstart and knocks the place about without so much as a by your leave. Brings the monkeys and the dogs that mess all over the house. Brings all his mates round for merr'ymaking till late, and practices the odd instrument now and again. It's that bad she is moving across the Irish Sea!

19 Mar 2004, 1:54 p.m. - Ruben

Pedro: in this cruel world there is only one way to survive in the memory of others. This way is known in the Academy as: "Publish or Perish". Now tell me: what have you red lately from Mrs. Davis?

19 Mar 2004, 2:54 p.m. - David A. Smith

"business, which do a little put me out of order" Ever lie awake at night, having just bought an expensive new house, wondering how you'll make those enormous mortgage payments and what'll happen if you don't? Sam is levered (geared) to the gills and spending money at a prodigious rate on everything from fripperies to status symbols (in this day and time, an essential business expense). He wouldn't confess his anxieties unless they worried him on many counts.

19 Mar 2004, 3:19 p.m. - JWB

Batten Traitor to Parliament's fleet to become an MP. It's as if Am. Revolution failed and Bennedict Arnold chosen to represent Conn. in London.

19 Mar 2004, 4:18 p.m. - Pedro.

Publish and be Damned. "and I do find myself to become more and more thoughtful about getting of money than ever heretofore." Is Sam slowly forgetting his roots in Axe Yard where he thanked God for the money he had then? Remember 18 March 1660 "From thence homewards, and called at Mr. Blagrave's, where I took up my note that he had of mine for 40s., which he two years ago did give me as a pawn while he had my lute. So that all things are even between him and I.” As we say here looking up at the Academy “The more ye get, the more ye want.”

19 Mar 2004, 4:38 p.m. - cindy b

...more and more thoughtful about getting of money... Is it possible that Sam is concerned about money problems at work rather than in his personal life?

19 Mar 2004, 6:49 p.m. - David A. Smith

"more and more thoughtful about getting of money" For 'thoughtful about,' read 'preoccupied with'. I think Sam, far from forgetting his roots, is aware of how his life is changing and how *he* is changing. His diary is a confessional, not a court of judgment.

19 Mar 2004, 8:06 p.m. - A. De Araujo

"about getting of money than ever heretofore"seems to me that the times were achanging,you didn't have to be born in the nobility to have power; you had to have money though; a little like, mutatis mutandis, the rapper 50 cent: Get rich or die trying...

19 Mar 2004, 10 p.m. - vincent

"...I do find myself to become more and more thoughtful about getting of money than ever heretofore...." spent [money] must not exceed income [a theory that is frown'd upon], it matters not the quantity: 1d,1s, 1L,1Ml, 1bl, thee can always spend more. 'Tis spending that is fun. There I do believe are 6 residences for those that Enjoy the art [of spending that is ]. There are those that need help in the Colonies { an indentured Servant, I do believe it is named} to help thee out when thee have exhausted all resources [over ones head and trying to stay ahead of sheriff ].

19 Mar 2004, 10:15 p.m. - Susan

The Mercury (newsbook referenced in The Bishop's annotation above), was a Government propaganda vehicle - used by Parliament during it's regime in the 1650's to broadcast the party line: not an independent publication. Other publications sprang up critical of the Government (i.e. pro-Royalist) so that by 1657, all were banned except for the Mercury and The Publick Intelligencer. Does anyone know if these pamphlet publucations had become independent in the 1660's or were still being used just to desseminate the approved Government information? Was the 1657 ban still in place? Also, JWB - who is Bennedict Adam?

19 Mar 2004, 10:32 p.m. - Kevin Peter

Susan, Benedict Arnold was a very successful and talented General during the American Revolution, and led American armies to a number of victories against the British. He took exception to the alliance between the United States and France, and in return plotted with the British turn a fort over to them. He is regarded by the residents of the U.S. as a disgusting traitor, but is naturally much better regarded by the British. Like Batten, Benedict Arnold helped out one side greatly, but then "turned coats" and helped out the other side. Here's an article about him: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benedict_Arnold

19 Mar 2004, 11:28 p.m. - Glyn

For Batten and for Arnold: "Traitors never prosper, what's the reason? If they prosper none dare call it treason" I wonder who first said that?

20 Mar 2004, 1:28 a.m. - The Bishop

There was no 'Mercurius Newsbook'. There were between a dozen and two dozen different newsbooks that used Mercurius as part of their title: Mercurius Civicus, Mercurius Aulicus, Mercerius Britanicus, Mercurius Pragmaticus, Elenchticus, Rusticus, Politicus and many others. The pro-royalist newsbooks were around during the Civil War. Once it was over they pretty much disappeared. They weren't part of the 1650s. During the civil war there had been several newsbooks that supported Parliament. Afterwards, they were all suppressed (because the Parliamentary cause had split into faction, and the newsbooks were taking sides among the factions), and one writer/editor was allowed to produce newsbooks. He had a Thursday paper - the Mercurius Politicus - and a Monday paper - the Public Intelligencer. There was also a newsbook produced in French, and that's all there was in the '50s. In 1559 Parliament's newswriter lost his monopoly, and several other men got into the journalism game. Then in July of 1660 Charles II's council ordered that one Muddiman would be the only one allowed to publish newsbooks from this point on.

20 Mar 2004, 2:55 a.m. - dirk

Newsbooks Basic history of the newspaper - both UK & the rest of Europe (read paragraphs 3 & 4) http://www.lian.com/TANAKA/comhosei/NPinEB.htm

20 Mar 2004, 2:16 p.m. - Pedro.

His diary is a confessional, not a court of judgment. Do we not place ourselves before the merciful judgement of God when at the confessional?

20 Mar 2004, 2:49 p.m. - J A Gioia

skidding off topic... the fort general arnold attempted to turn over was west point, at a very strategic bend of the hudson river between albany and new york city. it would become in short order the u.s.'s chief army college.

20 Mar 2004, 3:18 p.m. - Pauline

"...did she have that effect on everyone, or was it just him?" from October 31 last: Much troubled all this morning in my mind about the business of my walk on the leads. I spoke of it to the Comptroller and the rest of the principal officers, who are all unwilling to meddle in anything that may anger my Lady Davis. And so I am fain to give over for the time that she do continue therein.

20 Mar 2004, 3:37 p.m. - Pauline

"...mess all over the house..." see http://www.pepysdiary.com/diary/1660/11/29/ for the foul water and diplomatic standing up to Mr. Davis.

20 Mar 2004, 5:54 p.m. - Laura K

benedict arnold In the US, "Benedict Arnold" is used as a generic term for a traitor or turncoat. I'd guess that only a small percentage of Americans could tell you who Arnold was or what he actually did. The phrase is also used as an adjective, as in a "Benedict Arnold senator," an elected official who doesn't side with her/his party or constituents.

20 Mar 2004, 10:22 p.m. - Pedro.

The Wife of the Clerk to Lord Berkley of Stratton (Mrs.Davis) Appologies I'm glad she is going as well! (see below) Lord Berkeley of Stratton In 1647 Berkeley assisted the King in his flight from Hampton Court to the Isle of Wight. On his return to England at the Restoration he was placed on the staff of the Admiralty, appointed Lord President of Connaught for life, a Privy Councillor, a Master of the Ordnance, a member of the Committee of Tangier and, in 1670, Lord Lieutenant of Ireland. In 1675 he was appointed Ambassador Extraordinary at the Congress of Nimeguen but his health was now failing. For a number of years from 1652 he also acted as the manager of the Duke of York's household during which time, according to Samuel Pepys (27 Sep, 1668), he obtained some irregular benefit from the letting of the Duke's wine licences. Shrewd move by Sam!

21 Mar 2004, 3:04 a.m. - Susan

Thanks to The Bishop for an admirable summary of a complex situation. My precis was far too brief. Thanks to Dirk too for an admirable history link about newspapers and their beginnings. Thanks to all contributors from the US about Bennedict Arnold, but all the information has led me to conclude that to compare Arnold with Batten is unfair. Batten remained true to his country and to the Navy. Keeping Britain an inviolate nation depended on a good Navy (until the Zeppelin raids over London in WWI) and by and large the Parliamentarian Naval commanders seem to have considered that protecting British shores was of paramount importance, no matter who was ruling the country.Do other people think Batten was a traitor??

21 Mar 2004, 3:35 a.m. - vincent

I fail to see the connection. As a MP[Batten] he would be in a better position to help the Navy. The London MP's were in my estimation pro Money[from the merchant class] [not for King or Country] [sure wrap their conscience up in few pieces of gold ] using the navy to bring Legitimate[and robbed] goods from those places like Barbados, Jamaica,Virginia, Indias and other profitable locations.They only tolerated the crown as long they could trade.For us lesser mortals were aspire to higher Ideals [but]. One should read Williams Owens Poem : My friend, you would not tell with such high zest To children ardent for some desperate glory, The old Lie; Dulce et Decorum est Pro patria mori. 8 October 1917 - March, 1918 Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori - it is sweet and right to die for your country. In other words, it is a wonderful and great honour to fight and die for your country http://www.warpoetry.co.uk/owen1.html

21 Mar 2004, 1:34 p.m. - Andrew Hamilton

I don't see the Arnold connection to Batten either, but apropos the Arnold thread, his name is a term of opproprium in American politics to this very time, cf. Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry denouncing "Benedict Arnold CEOs" who outsource jobs to foreign lands. (Traitors to the American workforce, in his view.)

21 Mar 2004, 3:37 p.m. - Laura K

arnold / batten I don't see the connection either, based on what I've read here. I was just trying to fill in who Benedict Arnold was. Andrew H: Of course, I thought of the Kerry line, too. I'm glad you mentioned it, as I was purposely trying not to!

21 Mar 2004, 5:29 p.m. - tc

Dulce et Decorum Est... Thanks to vincent for reminding us of Wilfred Owens' great poem about the horrors of a WWI gas attack; it should be required reading for all politicians prone to bellicosity... always apropos, but never more so now...

9 Jan 2006, 12:50 a.m. - Terry Foreman

Image of Mercurius Aulicus. Communicating the Intelligence and Affaires of the Court 7[6]-13[12] April [1645] The British Library E.279.(8.) Copyright ©2000, The British Library Board http://www.bl.uk/popups/aulicus.html A somewhat self-serving view in part: "Perhaps the greatest tragedy in all English history began in 1642 when, for five years, families and friends were divided by violent struggle. Respect for the monarchy was as great then as it is today; but it was squandered by Charles I and Civil War ensued. Out of Cromwell's eventual victory came a period of absolute rule just as arbitrary. In communicating the affaires of Court, Mercurius Aulicus can claim to be Englands first regular newspaper, printed at Oxford and reprinted in London almost throughout the entire war." http://www.clubtype.co.uk/MercsSpec.html

28 Dec 2013, 8:12 p.m. - Terry Foreman

"Yesterday it was said was to be the day that the Princess Henrietta was to marry the Duke d’Anjou in France." L&M note the marriage was not celebrated until 21/31 March, the postponement due partly to the recent death of Mazarin and partly to a delay in obtaining papal dispensation for the marriage of first cousins. (Anjou was the brother of Louis XIV, Henrietta the sister of Louis's first cousin Charles II.)

28 Dec 2013, 8:20 p.m. - Terry Foreman

"This day I found in the newes-booke that Roger Pepys is chosen at Cambridge for the town...." L&M note *The Kingdomes Intelligencer* of 18 March announced the first election results. those of Cambridge University and borough....Roger Pepys, SP's cousin, was Recorder of Cambridge and son of Talbot Pepys of Impington.

25 Jan 2014, 4:48 p.m. - Bill

"Sir W. Batten went to Rochester, where he expects to be chosen Parliament man" Sir William Batten was elected M.P. for Rochester March 21st, 1660-61, and held the seat till his death, when he was succeeded by Richard Head, Alderman of Rochester, who was elected November 2nd, 1667. ---Wheatley, 1896.

18 Mar 2014, 11:01 a.m. - Sasha Clarkson

Glyn et al: the quote is from Queen Elizabeth's godson, Sir John Harington. The correct quote is: "Treason doth never prosper, what's the reason? For if it prosper, none dare call it treason." Harington also invented Britain's first flush toilet. According to Encyclopaedia Britannica, he installed one for the Queen in her palace at Richmond. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Harington_%28writer%29

19 Mar 2014, 5:07 p.m. - Gerald Berg

RE: Mrs. Davis. The problem is that sometimes you will find a person that more than willing to live a miserable life. If that person happens to be your neighbour you have a true dilemma. Once engaged with this type of person it becomes a question of who is the more capable of living most miserably. One cannot win! That neighbour should be feared lest they discover your fear. I think of Mrs. Davis as that type of person by the way she cut Pepys off from the leads. No talk, all fiat.