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About Elizabeth Turner

San Diego Sarah  •  Link

https://www.pepysdiary.com/diary/1664/10/10/?c=...
Monday 10 October 1664

"But Sir W. Batten do raffle still against Mr. Turner and his wife, telling me he is a false fellow, and his wife a false woman, and has rotten teeth and false, set in with wire, and as I know they are so, so I am glad he finds it so."

Sounds more modern that George Washington's wooden set.

About At home with Mr and Mrs Pepys

San Diego Sarah  •  Link

This wonderful post ignores what we know about the cellars. Since the original building was altered into housing, it is likely the cellars had communal aspects. We know that the Turners were more than neighbors ... their "house of office" emptied into Pepys' part of the cellars.

Cf. http://www.pepysdiary.com/diary/1660/10/20/ : 'This morning one came to me to advise with me where to make me a window into my cellar in lieu of one that Sir W. Batten had stopped up; and going down my cellar to look, I put my foot into a great heap of turds, by which I find that Mr. Turner's house of office is full and comes into my cellar, which doth trouble me; but I will have it helped.'

http://www.pepysdiary.com/diary/1663/07/07/
L&M transcribe the mess being transported in the dark from the cellar: "This night, Mr. Turner's house [of office] being to be emptied out of my cellar, and therefore I think to sit up a little longer than ordinary. ... I called late for some victuals, and so to bed, leaving the men below in the cellar emptying the turds up through Mr. Turner's own house; and so, with more content, to bed late."

It's likely you could go from one subterranean area to another only by opening up the insert walls. Doors, walls, stairs or fixtures would be added or deleted as needed. Only in the abundant wealth of modern era does one tear down the existing structure to make the new ideal arrangements based on ergonomic and practical uses and requirements. Structures like the Palace of Whitehall were really just a collection of dilapidated buildings constantly altered to meet current needs.

Pepys' basement probably included a cellar for his coals (which he purchases once a year), a cellar which could be locked where he kept his collection of gifts from satisfied clients and his best imported wines, a root cellar to keep turnips and potatoes, and then there was a designated cellar or area with pipes coming down from the houses of office in the upper regions into a barrel for the collection of nite soil.

About Monday 10 October 1664

San Diego Sarah  •  Link

"... he told me how Sir J. Minnes by the means of Sir R. Ford was the last night brought to his house and did discover the reason of his so long discontent with him, and now they are friends again, which I am sorry for, but he told it me so plainly that I see there is no thorough understanding between them, nor love, and so I hope there will be no great combination in any thing, nor do I see Sir J. Minnes very fond as he used to be."

So Sir Richard Ford and Sir John Mennes had a heart-to-heart last night for old times' sake, and ironed out a long-held discontent. Pepys thinks that although this rift is healed, neither of them is interested in being BFFs again, so he doesn't need to worry about his close working relationship with Ford.

I've poked around and have no idea what the long discontent was about. Anyone have any ideas?

About Monday 10 October 1664

San Diego Sarah  •  Link

And maybe Elizabeth was aware of his leaving her at the Church yesterday afternoon so he could trail after a pretty wench all over Tower Hill, so she had to take herself to Aunt and Uncle Wrights because there was no knowing when he would come home. Bess had a lot of reasons not to want a romantic anniversary. And Sam now has young Tom Edwards with him at all times, so stories may be coming up the back stairs ...? We shall see ...

About Monday 10 October 1664

San Diego Sarah  •  Link

In Pepys' defense, Elizabeth yesterday declared today as Wash Day -- and we know what that means. If she wanted a romantic anniversary dinner, she would have organized things differently. I suspect she's still sulking about getting a pow in the kisser the other day for bad service at their dinner party.

About Thomas Fuller (a)

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BEWARE ... there is confusion here. This Thomas Fuller's uncle was the Divine and author who died in 1661. We are now in 1664. Our Encyclopedia has info on both.

About Thomas Fuller (a)

San Diego Sarah  •  Link

BEWARE ... there is confusion here. The Divine and author died in 1661. We are now in 1664. There must have been two Rev. Thomas Fullers.

About Saturday 8 October 1664

San Diego Sarah  •  Link

If I were Pepys, I'd be less enthusiastic about doing business with Capt. Taylor. Not only did Pepys waste a lot of afternoons haggling over insurance issues on Taylor's behalf in 1663, but also the Eagle was not handled in a business-like manner either:

http://www.pepysdiary.com/diary/1664/06/13/
Monday 13 June 1664
So up at 5 o’clock, and with Captain Taylor on board her at Deptford, and found all out of order, only the soldiers civil, and Sir Arthur Bassett a civil person. I rated at Captain Taylor, whom, contrary to my expectation, I found a lying and a very stupid blundering fellow, good for nothing, and yet we talk of him in the Navy as if he had been an excellent officer, but I find him a lying knave, and of no judgment or dispatch at all. After finding the condition of the ship, no master, not above four men, and many ship’s provisions, sails, and other things wanting, I went back and called upon Fudge, whom I found like a lying rogue unready to go on board, but I did so jeer him that I made him get everything ready, and left Taylor and H. Russell to quicken him, and so away and I by water on to White Hall, where I met his Royal Highness at a Tangier Committee about this very thing, and did there satisfy him how things are, at which all was pacified without any trouble, and I hope may end well, but I confess I am at a real trouble for fear the rogue should not do his work, and I come to shame and loss of the money I did hope justly to have got by it.

About Saturday 8 October 1664

San Diego Sarah  •  Link

From "The Navy White Book" edited by Robert Latham

I think this story concerns a set-to at the office today. Sir William Batten requests that Pett evaluate some of Sir Wm Warren's masts that were delivered some time ago, and not Mr. Shish.

After some demands for an explanation for this break with standard procedures, Batten reveals that Pett in the past evaluated similar masts at a greater price than they were actually worth. Batten thinks Shish will value at a lesser figure which will upset Warren.

Sir Wm Warren is called in, and his defense after some prodding was that Wm Wood had subcontracted him to charge that amount, and Pett had agreed to the valuation, even though it was inferior wood and as Master he had known it but it was the best available from that shipment.

About Thursday 6 October 1664

San Diego Sarah  •  Link

"Encloses a Commission for Captain Page."

Possibly Capt. Thomas Page, mentioned specifically once by Pepys in 1666?

According to Biographia Navalis. J. Charnock, 1794: after having commanded the Nightingale in 1661, the Pearl and Newcastle in 1664, the Bredah in 1666, the West Friezland (taken from the Dutch in 1667), and the Falcon in 1668, Page served as lieutenant of the Foresight in the same year.

In 1669 Page was, a second time, appointed captain of the Pearl. In 1672 he commanded the Wivenhoe pink, and the small vessels afloat at Sheerness. In 1673 he was made commander of the Francis. His name does not again occur.