Friday 27 April 1660

This morning Burr was absent again from on board, which I was troubled at, and spoke to Mr. Pierce, Purser, to speak to him of it, and it is my mind.

This morning Pim [the tailor] spent in my cabin, putting a great many ribbons to a suit. After dinner in the afternoon came on board Sir Thomas Hatton and Sir R. Maleverer going for Flushing; but all the world know that they go where the rest of the many gentlemen go that every day flock to the King at Breda.1 They supped here, and my Lord treated them as he do the rest that go thither, with a great deal of civility. While we were at supper a packet came, wherein much news from several friends. The chief is that, that I had from Mr. Moore, viz. that he fears the Cavaliers in the House will be so high, that the others will be forced to leave the House and fall in with General Monk, and so offer things to the King so high on the Presbyterian account that he may refuse, and so they will endeavour some more mischief; but when I told my Lord it, he shook his head and told me, that the Presbyterians are deceived, for the General is certainly for the King’s interest, and so they will not be able to prevail that way with him.

After supper the two knights went on board the Grantham, that is to convey them to Flushing. I am informed that the Exchequer is now so low, that there is not 20l. there, to give the messenger that brought the news of Lambert’s being taken; which story is very strange that he should lose his reputation of being a man of courage now at one blow, for that he was not able to fight one stroke, but desired of Colonel Ingoldsby several times for God’s sake to let him escape.

Late reading my letters, my mind being much troubled to think that, after all our hopes, we should have any cause to fear any more disappointments therein.

To bed. This day I made even with Mr. Creed, by sending him my bill and he me my money by Burr whom I sent for it.

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vincent  •  Link

"packet'_"Packet-boat" Usually available daily, except Sunday, Calais (calis,calice) Dover takes a day (7 houres) aprox. depending on winds,tides and Pirates: Evelyn in His Diary tell of wonderful adventures (ref 22nd jun 1650) (& 13 Aug ) this time he was drenched;

vincent  •  Link

"Packet" rereading all the references it does appear to be sealed mail for to and from London not to and from the Continent.

mary  •  Link

'and it is my mind.'

At this point, L&M give 'and tell him my mind', which reads much better.

Swordfish  •  Link

Are the ribbons Pim is putting on Sams suit decoration, or some form of insignia/rank - would anybody know?

Jenny Doughty  •  Link

During the interregnum, under the Puritan influence of Cromwell, dress tended to be very simple and sober. Upon the restoration of Charles II, it suddenly became a great deal more decorative. I fancy Pepys, as always, has his eye on the Zeitgeist. I cannot imagine that, if he had been given a medal of some kind, he would not have confided this to his diary.

Warren Keith Wright  •  Link

"Breeches," says the Companion article on "Dress" (pp. 98-99), "were of different types: the grandest, edged with ribbon, might well measure more than a yard about at each knee". No doubt any piece of apparel could have extra ribbon attached, as edging or as patterned stripes, to create a richer appearance, for men as well as women.
And do not overlook the larks that grooms and brides might have with ribbons on their clothes: see entries and annotations for 24 January and 24 February 1660 concerning Mr. and "Mrs." Lucy.

Susanna  •  Link


Yes, ribbons were one of the main fashion accessories of Pepys' time, as seen in this quote from :

"Furthermore, the costume was decorated with numerous ribbon bows at doublet, breeches and shoes, namely most prominently at the waistband of the breeches, the shoulders, and the bottom hem of the jacket. In a surviving tailor's list of the 1650s is a note about the amount of ribbon bows which are needed for a fashionable outfit: about 500-600 ribbon bows, which are called galants in French."

Jackie  •  Link

Sam is getting into high fashion isn't he? Buckles for his shoes earlier in the year, yards of ribbons now.

So, when will he start wearing preposterous periwigs?

Warren Keith Wright  •  Link

1663, when the King started wearing them to cover up his greying hair. He and the Duke of York set the fashion at court; and so, in November 1663, Pepys bespoke two wigs and wore them henceforth, as shown in John Hayls's 1666 portrait. Cf. the National Portrait Gallery site and exhibition:
(link courtesy Frank Penney)

Admittedly, "[w]hile both long hair and wigs could and did become infested with nits, wigs were more easily cleaned."
---Companion, "Dress: Men's Hair," p. 100.

Warren Keith Wright  •  Link

To highlight Pepys's passing the buck to the Purser, this is re-posted from John Burr's page:

Burr is absent in the morning, but seems to have returned before close of day in order to conduct business with Creed, round trip. The chain of command is interesting: though hired by Pepys, does Burr fall under the Purser’s jurisdiction once aboard ship, rather than Pepys dealing with Burr directly about his absences? While Pepys does not shy from confrontations, he seems as lief to avoid them.

(And what, one wonders, was the contemporary idiom for "passing the buck"?)

Zack  •  Link

Where exactly is Pepys now? It seemed he was to take ship for the Continent, and he certainly seems to be living aboard ship, but as far as I can tell it hasn't gone anywhere.

Richard Lathom  •  Link

Burr was absent ... Purser, to speak to him ...
I get from this that the Purser was charged with keeping track of who came aboard, thus Pepys asked him to convey his displeasure to Burr when he came back and let him know the message was from Pepys.

oliver  •  Link

",,,500-600 ribbon bows, which are called galants in French.  •  Link

No, a ten-gallon hat is just a hat that might could hold ten gallons. It'd look pretty funny with a bunch of galants tied to it, though.

melinda trapelo  •  Link

A "Ten Gallon Hat" does NOT hold ten gallons (think how large that would be). It's derived from the Spanish "galoon." So yes, it DOES refer to ornaments.  •  Link

Melinda is right.
Well, that'll teach me to stick to my rule of always looking things up before shooting off my mouth. You're quite right, it is from Spanish, as noted in the infallible Straight Dope:…

I should add that I wasn't under the impression that the hat actually *could* hold ten gallons, but I assumed that was a Texan exaggeration meaning it was a big hat (hence my Southernism "might could"). I'm glad to know the true derivation!

Mary Merivel  •  Link

"Lambert’s being taken; which story is very strange that he should lose his reputation of being a man of courage now at one blow, for that he was not able to fight one stroke, but desired of Colonel Ingoldsby several times for God’s sake to let him escape".

The story sounds really strange for everyone who knows Lambert; I wonder where did this tale came from. Does anyone knows any other confirmations?

Terry Foreman  •  Link

"This morning Pim [the tailor] spent in my cabin, putting a great many ribbons to a suit."

From Nicole Kipar's late 17th century Clothing History site Susanna links to:
"Charles II in Coronation Robes, 1661. J.M. Wright. Note the off-white red heeled shoes with the jewelled rosette, the silver tissue fabric of the hose and ribbons and the rich lace collar (Venetian Gros Point). English"…

Bill  •  Link

RIBBAND, or Ribbon, a narrow sort of silk, chiefly used for head ornaments, badges of chivalry, &c.
---The Complete Dictionary of Arts and Sciences, 1766

Bill  •  Link

The Emperor shared in the general satisfaction; and presented the impostors with the riband of an order of knighthood, to be worn in their button-holes, and the title of "Gentlemen Weavers". (from the Fairy Tales of Hans Christian Anderson)

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