Sunday 17 March 1666/67

(Lord’s day). Up betime with my wife, and by coach with Sir W. Pen and Sir Thomas Allen to White Hall, there my wife and I the first time that ever we went to my Lady Jemimah’s chamber at Sir Edward Carteret’s lodgings. I confess I have been much to blame and much ashamed of our not visiting her sooner, but better now than never. Here we took her before she was up, which I was sorry for, so only saw her, and away to chapel, leaving further visit till after sermon. I put my wife into the pew below, but it was pretty to see, myself being but in a plain band, and every way else ordinary, how the verger took me for her man, I think, and I was fain to tell him she was a kinswoman of my Lord Sandwich’s, he saying that none under knights-baronets’ ladies are to go into that pew. So she being there, I to the Duke of York’s lodging, where in his dressing-chamber he talking of his journey to-morrow or next day to Harwich, to prepare some fortifications there; so that we are wholly upon the defensive part this year, only we have some expectations that we may by our squadrons annoy them in their trade by the North of Scotland and to the Westward. Here Sir W. Pen did show the Duke of York a letter of Hogg’s about a prize he drove in within the Sound at Plymouth, where the Vice-Admiral claims her. Sir W. Pen would have me speak to the latter, which I did, and I think without any offence, but afterwards I was sorry for it, and Sir W. Pen did plainly say that he had no mind to speak to the Duke of York about it, so that he put me upon it, but it shall be, the last time that I will do such another thing, though I think no manner of hurt done by it to me at all. That done I to walk in the Parke, where to the Queene’s Chapel, and there heard a fryer preach with his cord about his middle, in Portuguese, something I could understand, showing that God did respect the meek and humble, as well as the high and rich. He was full of action, but very decent and good, I thought, and his manner of delivery very good. Then I went back to White Hall, and there up to the closet, and spoke with several people till sermon was ended, which was preached by the Bishop of Hereford, an old good man, that they say made an excellent sermon. He was by birth a Catholique, and a great gallant, having 1500l. per annum, patrimony, and is a Knight Barronet; was turned from his persuasion by the late Archbishop Laud. He and the Bishop of Exeter, Dr. Ward, are the two Bishops that the King do say he cannot have bad sermons from. Here I met with Sir H. Cholmly, who tells me, that undoubtedly my Lord Bellasses do go no more to Tangier, and that he do believe he do stand in a likely way to go Governor; though he says, and showed me, a young silly Lord, one Lord Allington, who hath offered a great sum of money to go, and will put hard for it, he having a fine lady, and a great man would be glad to have him out of the way. After Chapel I down and took out my wife from the pew, where she was talking with a lady whom I knew not till I was gone. It was Mrs. Ashfield of Brampton, who had with much civility been, it seems, at our house to see her. I am sorry I did not show her any more respect. With my wife to Sir G. Carteret’s, where we dined and mightily made of, and most extraordinary people they are to continue friendship with for goodness, virtue, and nobleness and interest. After dinner he and I alone awhile and did joy ourselves in my Lord Sandwich’s being out of the way all this time. He concurs that we are in a way of ruin by thus being forced to keep only small squadrons out, but do tell me that it was not choice, but only force, that we could not keep out the whole fleete. He tells me that the King is very kind to my Lord Sandwich, and did himself observe to him (Sir G. Carteret), how those very people, meaning the Prince and Duke of Albemarle, are punished in the same kind as they did seek to abuse my Lord Sandwich. Thence away, and got a hackney coach and carried my wife home, and there only drank, and myself back again to my Lord Treasurer’s, where the King, Duke of York, and Sir G. Carteret and Lord Arlington were and none else, so I staid not, but to White Hall, and there meeting nobody I would speak with, walked into the Park and took two or three turns all alone, and then took coach and home, where I find Mercer, who I was glad to see, but durst [not] shew so, my wife being displeased with her, and indeed I fear she is grown a very gossip. I to my chamber, and there fitted my arguments which I had promised Mr. Gawden in his behalf in some pretences to allowance of the King, and then to supper, and so to my chamber a little again, and then to bed. Duke of Buckingham not heard of yet.

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cape henry   Link to this

"...how the verger took me for her man..." This is a wonderful, hilarious scene to contemplate: the Great Bureaucrat Samuel Pepys being mistaken for his wife's servant by a church verger.Apparently he refrained from making a scene in order to secure Elizabeth her "pretty" seat.Gallant.

cum salis grano   Link to this

purchasing a great income,RTI be how much, certainly grater than 10 PA. may be like a modern banker 1000% ?

"...who hath offered a great sum of money to go,.."
Was the way to invest, buy a living.

Sam's cost him 100 pound per annum but yield an excellent dividend.

cum salis grano   Link to this

Josselyn doth indicate how hard it is to get a living from the land, Jack Frost and allies keep the weary farmer on his toes.

Jesse   Link to this

"...the verger took me for her man..."

At first I took man=husband and the verger was challenging Elizabeth's status. Man[servant] makes more sense and perhaps the verger was just curious who Pepys' 'mistress' was. Now, would "kinswoman" of a lord take precedence over the "lady" (=wife?) of a knight?

cum salis grano   Link to this

the verger : the rod carrier or or a man of the garden or as now takes the plate around, verging.

verger1
A garden or orchard; a pleasure-garden.
verger2
1. An official who carries a rod or similar symbol of office before the dignitaries of a cathedral, church, or university (or before justices).
c1402
1607 COWELL Interpr., Vergers..be such as cary white wands before the Iustices of either banke, &c...; otherwise called Porters of the verge.
1616 B. JONSON Devil an Ass IV. iv, I must walk With the French sticke, like an old Vierger, for you.
1688 R. HOLME Armoury III. 197/1 The Verger [of the Cathedral Church] is a Man in a Gown..whose Office it is to conduct the Reader to his place [etc.].

b. One whose duty it is to take care of the interior of a church, and to act as attendant.
1707

verger3
A rod carried as a symbol of office; = VERGE n.1 4a.

1547 in Strype Eccl. Mem. (1721) II. App. A. 10 Then came the sergeant of the vestry with his verger, and after him the cros, with the children [etc.]. 1647

to verge v2
1. intr. Of the sun: To descend toward the horizon; to sink, or begin to do so. Also transf.
1610

2. To move in a certain direction (esp. downwards); also, to extend or stretch.

a1661 FULLER Worthies, Somerset (1662) 32 Henceforward the Sun of the Kings cause declined, verging more and more Westward, till at last it set in Cornwal.


verge, v.3
intr. To act as a verger; to be a verger. Hence {sm}verging vbl. n.
1900 W. HOW Lighter Moments 54 He werges up one side of the church and I werges up the other.
1926 Punch 13 Oct. 400/2, I verges up the centre aisle; he verges up the sides.

1927 H. V. MORTON In Search of England i. 14 The profession of verging appears to induce mousey manners.

Robert Gertz   Link to this

I'm curious about Bess' time at Whitehall chapel as well as her guest. Our girl must have been surrounded by ladies of "proper rank", yet she apparently carried it off. (In your face, Mr. Stevenson.) And if the verger would only allow ladies of certain rank into the pew, how did Mrs. Ashfield, a mere Bramptonite, manage entry? If Bess insisted on it, she must have done the "kinswoman of Lord Sandwich, knights-baronet's lady" pretty well. Clearly her dress was at least adequate.

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"He was full of action, but very decent and good, I thought, and his manner of delivery very good."

Sam at his best, tolerancewise.

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"Then I went back to White Hall, and there up to the closet, and spoke with several people till sermon was ended, which was preached by the Bishop of Hereford, an old good man, that they say made an excellent sermon."

But no need to go and hear it...

Hmmn, what kind of sermon could always suit Charles?

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Mercer seems to keep coming by despite Bess' showing displeasure with her earlier? I can't believe our hot-tempered lady is that good at concealing her feelings. Perhaps Mercer enjoys tweaking her former employer by dropping by? Or maybe the Pepys' is just the happening place in London on a 60's Sunday evening?

Or just a wild passion for a bug-eyed little charmer who shares her love of music and admired her breasts?

Terry Foreman   Link to this

Ormond to Clarendon
Written from: Dublin
Date: 17 March 1667

... "Upon occasion of the misfortune befallen the Duke of Buckingham ... it is considered & hoped that if the King shall admit of any mediation in behalf of that Duke my son [Earl of Arran] may, more properly than any man I can think of, be allowed to do it, and that if the offence shall prove capital, and be so pursued and punished in the end, he may then, in behalf of his wife [Lady Mary Stuart, daughter of James, fourth Duke of Lenox & first Duke of Richmond; niece of George, Duke of Buckingham], humbly put his Majesty in mind of her innocence, and of the merit of her father & of his family."

"No man can be a better judge ... or director in the conduct of such an affair, nor can I doubt that as you retain much kindness for the memory of the late Duke of Richmond, so you will be not the less willing to let his daughter find the effects of it, for the family she is come into, and to which she is, in her single person, as great a blessing as could be wished from any of her sex." ...

http://www.bodley.ox.ac.uk/dept/scwmss/projects...

Terry Foreman   Link to this

"Ormond to Clarendon"

George Villiers, the Duke of Buckingham , was clearly a popular figure.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Villiers,_2...

Terry Foreman   Link to this

Full discosure: there was a family connection between Buckingham and James Butler, 1st Duke of Ormonde: Butler's son, Richard Butler, 1st Earl of Arran, was married to Buckingham's cousin, who was also a 3nd cousin of King Charles II -- I could use help with this!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Stewart,_1st... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Villiers,_Duc...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Butler,_1s...

cum salis grano   Link to this

Mary Villiers "rote" some interesting lines on love and its side effects.
http://sjsteen.blogs.plymouth.edu/files/2008/04...

Australian Susan   Link to this

"..Clearly her dress was at least adequate...." She's just been to Unthanke's the tailor's - maybe to collect a new gown?

Nix   Link to this

"Hmmn, what kind of sermon could always suit Charles?"

A short one.

Kevin Peter   Link to this

“Hmmn, what kind of sermon could always suit Charles?”

...and one that doesn't preach against adultery or coveting your neighbor's wife

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