Thursday 12 November 1668

Up, and she with me as heretofore, and so I to the Office, where all the morning, and at noon to dinner, and Mr. Wayth, who, being at my office about business, I took him with me to talk and understand his matters, who is in mighty trouble from the Committee of Accounts about his contracting with this Office for sayle-cloth, but no hurt can be laid at his door in it, but upon us for doing it, if any, though we did it by the Duke of York’s approval, and by him I understand that the new Treasurers do intend to bring in all new Instruments, and so having dined we parted, and I to my wife and to sit with her a little, and then called her and Willet to my chamber, and there did, with tears in my eyes, which I could not help, discharge her and advise her to be gone as soon as she could, and never to see me, or let me see her more while she was in the house, which she took with tears too, but I believe understands me to be her friend, and I am apt to believe by what my wife hath of late told me is a cunning girle, if not a slut. Thence, parting kindly with my wife, I away by coach to my cozen Roger, according as by mistake (which the trouble of my mind for some days has occasioned, in this and another case a day or two before) is set down in yesterday’s notes, and so back again, and with Mr. Gibson late at my chamber making an end of my draught of a letter for the Duke of York, in answer to the answers of this Office, which I have now done to my mind, so as, if the Duke likes it, will, I think, put an end to a great deal of the faults of this Office, as well as my trouble for them. So to bed, and did lie now a little better than formerly, but with little, and yet with some trouble.


12 Nov 2011, 11:04 p.m. - Terry Foreman

The Royal Society today at Arundel House — from the Hooke Folio Online Nou. 12. 1668. There was made the expt. to see the communication of motion by 3 balls of the same wood of aequall bignesse were soe suspended that either of the two extreames being Lett fall from a certaine height against the intermediat ball the other extreame was impelled vpward to neer the same height that in the middle mouing very Little of wch the Presid conceiud this the reason that the intermediat when struck by one of the Laterall found the Resistance of the other Laterall ball but this other Laterall met noe other resistance but that of the air. The curator was orderd to think of other Expt. to make out this hypothesis of motion which is that noe motion dyes nor is any motion produced anew. (Sr. R moray. to haue seuerall body of seuerall hardnesse to try rebounding also bodys [In margin]Vz not springy. all authors about motion to be consulted. mr Collins desired & Dr. Wallis also desired Hugens letter, about motion). about testicles. Drawn into [mucous-like] threads.) Story of apostumation [ abcessed ] bladder Donato Rosetti book. of the true cause of aequlibrium. 2 of Archimdes de Insidentibus humus is fals. 3. that there is noe aether. 4. what is the whole weight of air. 5 the same of a part 6. the only way of measuring the airs altitude. 7. of examining whether Light be temporaneous). Norwoods packett from Bermoodas. also packet from Aleppo & isfahan for next Day. - Here ends the 3 Iournall Booke http://webapps.qmul.ac.uk/cell/Hooke/hooke_folio.php?id=73&option=both

12 Nov 2011, 11:06 p.m. - Terry Foreman

"There was made the expt. to see the communication of motion by 3 balls of the same wood of aequall bignesse were soe suspended that either of the two extreames being Lett fall from a certaine height against the intermediat ball the other extreame was impelled vpward to neer the same height that in the middle mouing very Little" "Newton's Cradle" again, ordered last week. http://www.pepysdiary.com/diary/1668/11/05/#c378165

13 Nov 2011, 1:15 a.m. - Robert Gertz

"Up, and she with me as heretofore..." She Who Must Be Obeyed...Bess in power, I love it. You'll learn moral discipline, Samuel...Work ever harder...Speak to ladies only when spoken to... Still, I suspect Bess would rather be as she was a few short weeks ago...Only maybe a bit less suspicious.

13 Nov 2011, 1:18 a.m. - Robert Gertz

"...and I am apt to believe by what my wife hath of late told me is a cunning girle, if not a slut." Really. So Deb is the schemer who led you to destruction, eh? Maybe you ought to have Bess' opinion on Bagwell as well, Sam.

13 Nov 2011, 3:20 p.m. - JWB

Richard Norwood "Bermuda's 17th C. genius" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Norwood

13 Nov 2011, 10:23 p.m. - john

As written earlier, Bess seems to see Deb as a real problem so better to lower her image in Sam's eyes and cast doubt on his control of the situation.

13 Nov 2011, 10:55 p.m. - arby

Or it could be Sam's all-too-human psychology at work too, he will feel less guilt for his (mis-) treatment of her if he can convince himself that she had hidden motives or is a slut. Blame the victim, after all, "she had it coming."

14 Nov 2011, 3:50 p.m. - languagehat

"Or it could be Sam’s all-too-human psychology at work too, he will feel less guilt for his (mis-) treatment of her if he can convince himself that she had hidden motives or is a slut." Yes, I agree with this.

6 Feb 2017, 12:06 a.m. - Terry Foreman

"the new Treasurers do intend to bring in all new Instruments" Methinks the Instruments in question are new forms of contract https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negotiable_instrument

4 Feb 2020, 10:08 p.m. - Terry Foreman

"and Mr. Wayth, who, being at my office about business, I took him with me to talk and understand his matters, who is in mighty trouble from the Committee of Accounts about his contracting with this Office for sayle-cloth" L&M: Robert Waith was paymaster to the Navy Treasurer and, like all officials, was forbidden to trade with the office. Several of his contracts are in CSPD 1663-4, pp. 132, 134, 135.

4 Feb 2020, 10:26 p.m. - Terry Foreman

"with Mr. Gibson late at my chamber making an end of my draught of a letter for the Duke of York, in answer to the answers of this Office" L&M: See https://www.pepysdiary.com/diary/1668/11/25/#c386762

10 Feb 2021, 4:17 p.m. - London Lynn

“and I am apt to believe by what my wife hath of late told me is a cunning girle, if not a slut”. Wow, Samuel! It maybe in your best interests to let your wife think you agree but, knowing you as we do, that’s some statement. You were certainly the perpetrator. It sounds like excuses heard nowadays - she led me on or it was because of the way she dresssed!

4 Oct 2021, 3:29 a.m. - San Diego Sarah

'America and West Indies: November 1668', in Calendar of State Papers Colonial, America and West Indies: Volume 5, 1661-1668, ed. W Noel Sainsbury (London, 1880), pp. 622-629. British History Online http://www.british-history.ac.uk/cal-state-papers/colonial/america-west-indies/vol5/pp622-629 Pages 622-629 @@@ Nov. 12. 1668 Essex House. #1870. Order of the Council of Trade. That Sec. Lord Arlington be desired to represent to his Majesty as the advice of this Council, — that whereas both by the Treaty of Breda and the private Articles granted to the inhabitants of Surinam the 24 Febry./6 March. 1667, by the Dutch commander Abraham Crynsens, and afterwards confirmed by him when he took possession of the place, the English have liberty to depart thence at any time with their goods, servants, &c.; and that said privilege is denied them, and the late Governor Serj.-Major Banister has been sent to Zealand prisoner for having demanded the benefit of said Treaty and private Articles. His Majesty may take order for the effectual execution of said Treaty and Articles and for redress of the injuries done. Signed by P. Du Moulin, Sec. Also, Mem. of the articles above mentioned. Together 2 papers. 1½ pp. [Col. Papers, Vol. XXIII., Nos. 79, 80.]

13 Nov 2021, 12:18 p.m. - Stephane Chenard

We encourage the Royal Society's noble fellows, instead of giggling at Mr. Hooke's expt. on testicles, to pay attention to Sig. Donato Rosetti, one of the great, lately ignored, thinkers of the Age, like Galileo in some trouble with the (popish) (ignoble) Inquisition, and who thought "That there is noe ether". The Curator henceforth to be more precise on the titles of books. Today we had another revelation from espying one of two letters written to Mr. Pepys, found in the State Papers. The first, from John Tinker in Portsmouth, is nothing special and relates how the boatswain of the ship Adventure embezzled sails and cables taken from a French prize (bad!) and, more remarkably, that the ship's gunner is said to have also sold two of the guns (really!) The other letter is from Edward Byland in Woolwich, who wants Sam to look to various supplies and maintenance for Woolwich, and whose summary concludes: "Wants the plumber to mend the pump, the yard being without water". Perhaps this shows the depth of our aristocratic inattention to such trifles, but we didn't know that in 1668 England (or anywhere else, really) has plumbers - not in the sense of a tradesman working with lead [latin plumbum], a species surely found all over the rooftops and the occasional drainpipe and which would go back to Antiquity, but here as someone to fix the pump, clearly not made of lead. We note however that it takes connections and a letter to the government to get one, and that Sam had a list of good ones. No wonder he's so popular.

14 Nov 2021, 3:14 p.m. - Gerald Berg

Gaslighting. Sam is the expert.

17 Nov 2021, 1:47 a.m. - San Diego Sarah

The volume of Domestic State Papers covering correspondence from Oct. 1668 to Dec. 1669 is at https://play.google.com/books/reader?id=vik5AQAAMAAJ&pg=GBS.PA58&hl=en @@@ These are the two letters Stephane found interesting: Nov. 12 1668. Portsmouth Capt. John Tinker to Pepys. Particulars of prize goods left by Capt. Taply on board the Allventure, in hopes of obtaining a grant of them from the Duke of York, and during his absence, embezzled and sold by the boatswain. Wants candles and hand spikes. Will be straitened for room if ordered to take in the Edgar's guns. The wharfs are old, and have a great weight already. [2 pages. S.P. Dom., Car. II. 249, No. 70.] Encloses, Certificate by Abra. French, and 2 others, to the officers at Portsmouth, of sails and cables taken out of the Charity of St. Malo for the use of the Adventure, by order of their captain, Nov. 30, 1667. With note the boatswain confesses to selling the goods for 27/. 10s. Od., and that the gunner should be examined about 2 guns that he is said to have sold. [Copy. S.P. Dom., Car. II. 249, No. 701.] @@@ Nov. 12 1668 Woolwich Edw. Byland to Pepys. Asks for spruce deals to fit the Pearl, or must work oak; also for a supply of broom, reed, and hoods and funnels for the Portsmouth. The undertakers are desirous that the Phoenix should be cut down. A merchant ship came aboard the Portsmouth's head, and broke it; had the pilot before Col. Middleton, and the owners will stand to the charge, which will be about 40s. Wants the plumber to mend the pump, the yard being without water. [S.P. Dom., Car. II. 249, No. 72.] @@@ Nov. 12 1668. Portsmouth Capt. Ant. Deane to the Navy Commissioners . Account of the new ship building, which has been hindered by rainy weather; can not well launch these 3 weeks, as it would be a great charge and double the time to finish her afloat; but if they desire her launched, can do it next spring [tide]. Has used his utmost diligence. The Milford, which is to sail with her, need not be fitted until she is launched, as no boatswain appears, and not one rope is cut out for her rigging. The timber shall be let alone as desired; wants 10 or 12 large grindstones when the stores come down. [1 pages. S.P. Dom., Car. II. 249, No. 71.] @@@ Nov. 12 1668. Whitehall Dispensation for Sir Wm. Glynne, Bart., High Sheriff of Oxfordshire, to reside in Bedfordshire, London, or Westminster, when his occasions require. [S.P. Dom., Entry Book 25, f. 73.] === So some people needed permission to move. Does being High Sheriff make a difference? Sir William Glynne MP’s parliamentary bio. says he was elected in 1659 and 1660, and was High Sheriff only for the year of 1688-9; an MP has to be free to live in London/Westminster. https://www.historyofparliamentonline.org/volume/1660-1690/member/glynne-william-1638-90

17 Nov 2021, 1:47 a.m. - San Diego Sarah

Nov. 12 1668. Deal Rich. Watts to [Williamson]. A great Ostend man-of-war ran against his Majesty's ship Drake, and broke her bowsprit. Eight Ostend Spanish men-of-war and 55 merchantmen are in the Downs, bound for Spain. [S.P. Dom., Car. II. 249, No. 74.]