Monday 26 May 1662

Up by four o’clock in the morning, and fell to the preparing of some accounts for my Lord of Sandwich. By and by, by appointment comes Mr. Moore, and, by what appears to us at present, we found that my Lord is above 7,000l. in debt, and that he hath money coming into him that will clear all, and so we think him clear, but very little money in his purse. So to my Lord’s, and after he was ready, we spent an hour with him, giving him an account thereof; and he having some 6,000l. in his hands, remaining of the King’s, he is resolved to make use of that, and get off of it as well as he can, which I like well of, for else I fear he will scarce get beforehand again a great while. Thence home, and to the Trinity House; where the Brethren (who have been at Deptford choosing a new Maister; which is Sir J. Minnes, notwithstanding Sir W. Batten did contend highly for it: at which I am not a little pleased, because of his proud lady) about three o’clock came hither, and so to dinner. I seated myself close by Mr. Prin, who, in discourse with me, fell upon what records he hath of the lust and wicked lives of the nuns heretofore in England, and showed me out of his pocket one wherein thirty nuns for their lust were ejected of their house, being not fit to live there, and by the Pope’s command to be put, however, into other nunnerys. I could not stay to end dinner with them, but rose, and privately went out, and by water to my brother’s, and thence to take my wife to the Redd Bull, where we saw “Doctor Faustus,” but so wretchedly and poorly done, that we were sick of it, and the worse because by a former resolution it is to be the last play we are to see till Michaelmas. Thence homewards by coach, through Moorefields, where we stood awhile, and saw the wrestling. At home, got my lute upon the leads, and there played, and so to bed.

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Pedro   Link to this

"my Lord is above 7,000l. in debt"

So the 1,400l. present from the Portuguese the other day will come in useful.

A. De Araujo   Link to this

"the lust and wicked lives of the nuns"
"she was merely a woman trapped in a way of life that held no appeal for her.When she damned Archbishop Henry for burying her in a convent shuddering under the weight of celibacy preached by other nuns,she must have still felt the blood of her lover's genitals on her fingers."
cf A History of Celibacy-Elizabeth Abbott

Robert Gertz   Link to this

Marlowe's "Doctor Faustus", eh? What a shame it was a bad production, though I get the impression Sam had seen it...better done...Before.

"Sam'l...Now I would normally never suggest we break one of our solemn vows, my darling."

"Bess?" Samuel is shocked...Shocked!

"But that play stunk so badly, darling...Couldn't we see just one more? Michelmas is so far off..."

Robert Gertz   Link to this

Ah, hell Sam...You got up at four in the morning to do Sandwich's accounts, probably for free. Go see another play, we absolve you.

Bradford   Link to this

First Whitsun, now Michaelmas: quarter-oaths, as it were.
For two or three centuries one could always depend upon nuns to provide illicit thrills---in the popular Protestant imagination. Discuss.

Australian Susan   Link to this

Naughty Nuns
Funny to see such a stalwart old chestnut of soft porn having an early airing. Tales like this (also debauched friars) were happily spread about by reformers from the 1500s onwards: anti-Catholicism took many forms. Sounds as if Sam was torn away from all this breathless discussion to go to the theatre only reluctantly. And then the play was a dud production. And no more until the end of September. Wonder if he sticks to this?

Cumgranissalis   Link to this

oh! Peter, oh! Paul: Co mingling, very dodgy?"and get off of it as well as he can, which I like well of, for else I fear he will scarce get beforehand again a great while."
Will he Lord S. pay the interest for the loan?

Cumgranissalis   Link to this

PHILLIP MARLOWE: Doctor Faustus
http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/Texts/faustus.html
Sins
Pride Covetousness Envy Wrath Gluttony Sloth Lechery
"... Doctor Faustus,... but so wretchedly and poorly done…"
"What doctrine call you this? Che sera, sera:" Where was D Dies when she be needed ?
then Sam does need to be reminded of his :
"Sins
Pride, Covetousness, Envy, Wrath, Gluttony, Sloth, Lechery."
http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/Texts/faustus.html
or he was he thinking of Lady C.
FAUSTUS. Was this the face that launch’d a thousand ships,
And burnt the topless towers of Ilium—
Sweet Helen, make me immortal with a kiss.—
[Kisses her.]
Her lips suck forth my soul: see, where it flies!—
Come, Helen, come, give me my soul again.
Here will I dwell, for heaven is in these lips,
And all is dross that is not Helena.
I will be Paris, and for love of thee,
http://classiclit.about.com/library/bl-etexts/c...

Jesse   Link to this

"...to be put, however, into other nunnerys"

Transferring wayward clergy to other locales, alas, echoes to our present day. http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ned=us&q=prie...

Ruben   Link to this

got my lute upon the leads, and there played
First fiddler on the roof?

Tom Burns   Link to this

Wicked nuns!

If I remember correctly, it was common in those days for girls to be put into a convent by their families, so not all of the ladies were there willingly (I'm pretty sure this was true for priests as well). So is it any wonder that vows of celibacy were not rigorously adhered to?

A. Hamilton   Link to this

In re Philip Marlowe

Some dialogue from "The Big Sleep," starring Bogart and Bacall

Marlowe: You've got a touch of class, but I don't know how, how far you can go.
Mrs. Rutledge: A lot depends on who's in the saddle.

A. Hamilton   Link to this

In re Kit Marlowe

Could the end of Dr. Faustus have given a bit of a frisson to the future member of the Royal Society? Or was he already sufficiently modern to have an emotional distance from this medieval moment?

Faustus: O soul be changed into little water drops,
And fall into the ocean ne'er be found.
My god! my God! Look not so fierce on me;

Enter devils

Adders and serpents, let me breathe awhile.
Ugly hell, gape not; come not Lucifer!
I'll burn my books! Ah, Mephistophilis!

Exeunt Devils with Faustus.

Enter Chorus

Cho. Cut is the branch that might have grown full straight, And burned is Apollo`s laurel bough,
That sometime grew within this learned man.
Faustus is gone; regard his hellish fall,
Whose fiendfull fortune may exhort the wise
Only to wonder at unlawful things,
Whose deepness doth entice such forward wits
To practise more than heavenly power permits.

A. Hamilton   Link to this

In re the possible confusion between Philip and Kit:

As Alfie Bass, playing a Jewish inn-keeper-turned vampire, says to Roman Polanski's character in The Fearless Vampire Killers, who is frantically holding up a cross to ward off his attack, "Oy, haf you got the wrong vampire!"

A. Hamilton   Link to this

the lust and wicked lives of the nuns

Ah, Prynne, thy name is scandal! As Aus. Susan says, typical anti-Catholic propaganda. Amusing that it comes from a man whose fictional namesake Hester is forced by contemporary New England Puritans to wear the scarlet letter A.
As Adikos Logos says is Aristophanes' "The Clouds," everyone, even the most pious, is a sinner.

Steve   Link to this

"Up by four o’clock in the morning,"

Sunrise in London is about 4:50AM right now.

Cumgranissalis   Link to this

re: vocations, careers, presting, eating, apprenticeships, sleeping, and surviving.
One does what one can do. Many a young person became involved in preaching , as a better way of eating, unlike so many others that were pressed into service with many differing groups, especially groups that required plenty of leg work. Vocation and education was dangled as a better way of life than being a emptieer of the waste of the richer types.
Ones choices were limited by the availability of a meaningful career as an Admiral, Knight and other high status opportunities.
Even back in the forties some were offered a good education to be paid for by service of indocrinating others. We still offer education for making oneself available for slaughter. Not every one was borne with a [] Spoon in ones mouth.
So many had a choice of life in a choice of bedchambers.
Just travel the world to see how the lower 50% live and survive.

Mary   Link to this

Pepys sunrise.

We currently 'benefit' from British Summer Time (one hour ahead of GMT). Thus Pepys could have risen and worked shortly after sunrise at 3.50 am. without needing to light candles in an east-facing room.

Bradford   Link to this

Light enough to pumice your face by?

Australian Susan   Link to this

"saw the wrestling"
What does L&M have to say about this? Were they Cornish wrestlers? Gypsies? Was this a regular entertainment? Or especially for the Whit holiday period?

Australian Susan   Link to this

Lives of Nuns and Monks
Norman Cantor in his book "In the wake of the Plague" (how society was changed by this biomedical disaster), reports on analysis of the records of an Abbey in London in the early 14th century (pre-black death). They had what he describes as a gentry diet: meat, meat and more meat. If this richness is repeated in most or even in only many monastic communities up and down England, this would have provoked envy from the majority of the population living on - as I quoted in a previous post "Pease pudding hot, pease pudding cold, pease pudding in the pot, nine days old". All sorts of tales circulated, based on kernels of truth about the lives of the inhabitants, but the food envy aspect is supported by facts.

Robert Gertz   Link to this

Totally off the mark (sorry Phil) but I was reading Harold Bloom's book on Shakespeare (Invention of the Human) and he insists that Christopher Marlowe was murdered by Elizabeth I's Secret Service (under Walsingham). Anyone ever hear or read confirmation of that?

Cumgranissalis   Link to this

erata:PHILLIP MARLOWE: Doctor Faustus wrong version.

Australian Susan   Link to this

Marlowe was stabbed to death in a Greenwich pub (through the eye - nasty), ostensibly in a row over the payment, but rumours that he was mixed up with spying began early, but i don't think were ever substantiated. Just think, if Shakespeare had died in the same year (1594)of plague or something, he would only have been remembered for henry VI, Loves labours Lost, 2 gentelmen of Verona, Taming of the Shrew (I think), also C of Errors. Marlowe would have been judged by far the better playwright. One of history's great what if's? What if Marlowe had not gone to that tavern.....

David Ross McIrvine   Link to this

A Great Reckoning in a Little Room

Shakespeare seems to allude to Marlowe's murder by Ingram Frizier (am I remembering right?) in, as Susan says, a private room of a tavern, where they had a quarrel over the reckoning. Frizier had been employed by HM Secret Service. I'm not sure there's any evidence this was business, rather than personal, however.

Nostrildamus   Link to this

Marlowe was not killed in a 'pub', nor was it Greenwich. It was a boarding house for agents who habitually did work for the crown abroad. If memory serves, it was Deptford.

Clement   Link to this

Deptford--there's the Pepys' link.
"The playwright was brought before Star Chamber (the royal court of equity) on 20 May 1593 for undisclosed crimes'probably relating to blasphemy or atheism. He was told to report back every day. Ten days later, Marlowe died during a tavern brawl in Deptford, London, when he was stabbed through the eye with his own dagger by a man named Ingram Friser. Marlowe had gone to the tavern to meet some men who, like himself, were suspected of espionage or traitorous activities. Interestingly, Friser was pardoned on the excuse that his actions were in self- defense, spawning rumors of a high-level cover-up that have survived to this day."

http://www.sparknotes.com/drama/jewofmalta/cont...

Araucaria   Link to this

Remedial time conversion, yet again.

Add 10 days to Pepys' date.

Use caculator such as http://www.exptech.com/sunrise.htm to calculate time in London on that date.

Take special care to note the Transit Time. This is the time at which the sun crosses the meridian. Subtract (Transit time - 12Noon) from the sunrise/sunset times.

For example, for 05 June 2005, we have

Sunrise = 04:41:48 AM
Sunset = 09:05:42 PM
Transit = 12:53:45 PM

We subtract 53 minutes from 04:41 to get an adjusted sunrise of 3:48 AM. Figure a few minutes later for the sun clearing the tops of various buildings, and we see that Sam got up just as the sun was peeping in his window.

There was as yet no "mean time" standardization, so noon was defined as the time the sun crosses the meridian. Since the adoption of mean time, the sun will be at different longitudinal positions at the same (standard) time (search for "analemma"), because we have averaged the 24 hour length of a day over the entire year.

There is an entry in the background info on Clocks and Watches, but none on Time. I'll have to ask Phil to make one.

Araucaria   Link to this

For lack of a better place, I've copied most of my entry above into the Calendar page: http://www.pepysdiary.com/encyclopedia/352/#c31768

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