Sunday 27 April 1662

(Sunday). Sir W. Pen got trimmed before me, and so took the coach to Portsmouth to wait on my Lord Steward to church, and sent the coach for me back again. So I rode to church, and met my Lord Chamberlain upon the walls of the garrison, who owned and spoke to me. I followed him in the crowd of gallants through the Queen’s lodgings to chappell; the rooms being all rarely furnished, and escaped hardly being set on fire yesterday. At chappell we had a most excellent and eloquent sermon. And here I spoke and saluted Mrs. Pierce, but being in haste could not learn of her where her lodgings are, which vexes me. Thence took Ned Pickering to dinner with us, and the two Marshes, father and Son, dined with us, and very merry. After dinner Sir W. Batten and I, the Doctor, and Ned Pickering by coach to the Yard, and there on board the Swallow in the dock hear our navy chaplain preach a sad sermon, full of nonsense and false Latin; but prayed for the Right Honourable the principal officers.1 After sermon took him to Mr. Tippets’s to drink a glass of wine, and so at 4 back again by coach to Portsmouth, and then visited the Mayor, Mr. Timbrell, our anchor-smith, who showed us the present they have for the Queen; which is a salt-sellar of silver, the walls christall, with four eagles and four greyhounds standing up at the top to bear up a dish; which indeed is one of the neatest pieces of plate that ever I saw, and the case is very pretty also.2 This evening came a merchantman in the harbour, which we hired at London to carry horses to Portugall; but, Lord! what running there was to the seaside to hear what news, thinking it had come from the Queen. In the evening Sir George, Sir W. Pen and I walked round the walls, and thence we two with the Doctor to the yard, and so to supper and to bed.

  1. Principal officers of the navy, of which body Pepys was one as Clerk of the Acts.
  2. A salt-cellar answering this description is preserved at the Tower.

26 Annotations

Bradford   Link to this

"my Lord Chamberlain upon the walls of the garrison, who owned and spoke to me." --- "own," to admit or acknowledge; still to be heard in the American South: "He owned as how he knew me."

"the rooms being all rarely furnished, and escaped hardly being set on fire yesterday."
Did I miss something? Do we know why this was so?

JudyS   Link to this

Poor Elizabeth will be disappointed to find out how business-like Sam's trip is. Going here and there on little trips with Sir W. Batten and the Doctor. How dull - no theaters and women!

Robert Gertz   Link to this

Lucky Sam not to find the Queen coming in...Bess may spare him on return.

"...in the dock hear our navy chaplain preach a sad sermon, full of nonsense and false Latin; but prayed for the Right Honourable the principal officers..." I get the feeling Sam was teasing himself here...A little reminder not to let that head swell too much, principal officer, clerk of the Acts, Pepys.

Kinda hope he mentioned it to Beth...It would be nice to imagine him poking fun at himself and the boys to her.

Jesse   Link to this

"but, Lord!"

A search found three other instances (thus far) of this exclamation. I wonder if such could be used in polite conversation?

Robert Gertz   Link to this

"...took him to Mr. Tippets's to drink a glass of wine, and so at 4 back again by coach to Portsmouth, and then visited the Mayor, Mr. Timbrell, our anchor-smith…”

Tippets’ to drink, Timbrell the anchor-smith…I’d bet Sam enjoyed putting those two together.

dirk   Link to this

"This evening came a merchantman in the harbour, which we hired"

A merchantman = a merchant ship, not a person...

Miss Ann   Link to this

"And here I spoke and saluted Mrs. Pierce, but being in haste could not learn of her where her lodgings are, which vexes me." - well JudyS here's a likely woman for Sam, if only he can find her lodgings ... just as well Beth didn't come along, could restrict somewhat our boy's play.

DrCari   Link to this

For those of us who are fortunate to have access to the cable channels History and History International, there is a frequently aired episode showcasing the Crown Jewels of the Tower of London.
In this program, a docent or history scholar describes and displays this intricate and somewhat impractical, albeit lovely silver and crystal salt cellar

Miss Ann   Link to this

"...which indeed is one of the neatest pieces of plate that ever I saw..." - doesn't this sound like a young American in one of those soap opera's meant for young teenagers, I wasn't aware that they used the word "neat" or "neatest" in Sam's era.

Australian Susan   Link to this

So, La Belle Pierce is in town.......!Now did he know this beforehand, I wonder?

Australian Susan   Link to this

"Horses to Portugal"
Any idea why they are going to such trouble and expense as to send horses to Portugal? Surely there are excellent horses to be had in the Iberian peninsula, probably much better than anything England could come up with at this time. Charles has not yet indulged his passion for horse racing and improving the English breed with the importation of Arab stallions to develop the racehorse par excellence, the English Thoroughbred. English horses were ponylike or cobby at this time. Sturdy, strong and useful but hardly worth exporting. Most curious. Does L&M have anything to say about this?

A. Hamilton   Link to this

La belle Peirce

It would be interesting to know her connection to Portsmouth, and whether Sam knew in advance that she would be lodging there. She came up at this time last year during Sam's last visit to Portsmouth, when he was accompanied by Elizabeth. Perhaps there was something beside business on his mind this trip!

From the entry for May 5, 1661:

"Then to supper in the banquet house, and there my wife and I did talk high, she against and I for Mrs. Pierce (that she was a beauty), till we were both angry."

http://www.pepysdiary.com/diary/1661/05/05/

gerry   Link to this

L&M give more details about the salt:
One of the finest salts of its period; now known as the Seymour salt because it passed into the possession of Thomas Seymour (in1692 when Catherine returned to portugal),who in 1693 presented it to the Goldsmiths'Company, the present owners; 10.5 inches high; artist unknown. The case has now disappeared.

BradW   Link to this

Doesn't Portsmouth just crackle with anticipation of Her Highness' arrival? Nobles watching from the fortress walls, opulent quarters at the ready, church services crowded with visiting gallants, every arriving ship greeted by a mob of liveried servants seeking news (OK I extrapolated that a bit), competition for barbers' attentions, craftsmen outdoing each other. Thanks, Sam, lovely slice of life today.

Mary   Link to this

Horses for Portugal.

L&M offer no explanation for this item of export. At this date the Portuguese seem to have had two, distinct breeds/types of horse: the Andalusian ( well-bred, intelligent, swift, supple and brave) and the Serraio (small, about 13 hands high, and able to subsist on very poor pasture.

I suppose it's possible that, as part of the Royal Wedding arrangements, a shipment of strong, heavy-boned English draught-horses has been deemed a graceful present for the Portuguese. Pure guess-work, of course.

Martin   Link to this

neat/neatest
Without consulting OED, I think usage during this time in Sam's sense would mean "marked by ingenuity or skill," as in a neat turn of phrase.

language hat   Link to this

neat:
Definitely 'trim, smart, elegant.' The sense "good, excellent; desirable, attractive; (weakened in later use) 'cool'” (in the OED’s words) isn’t attested before the 19th century.

JWB   Link to this

"Horses for Portugal"
Perhaps these for trans-shipment to Tangiers. The mole had not yet been built. "Queen's Own" Regimental history: "The force set sail for Tangier on 15th January 1662 and later that year The Earl of Peterborough arrived in Tangier with a force of 500 horse and 2000 foot."
http://www.btinternet.com/~ian.a.paterson/orgin...

Cumgranissalis   Link to this

"English horses were ponylike or cobby at this time"
I doth think JWB be on the right course [newmarket,epsom], it be the cavalerie. The Cost of local purchase from Spain, Portugal or Morroco would be prohibitive. Besides there be some Magnaminous Chargers, if wot was painted be a close reproduction of the real Cavalier or the round head version of Laud C*******.
http://www.nationalgallery.org.uk/cgi-bin/WebOb...

K. Charles II and Jane Lane
http://www.npg.org.uk/live/search/portrait.asp?...

A. Hamilton   Link to this

More on La Belle

Those suspicious of Sam's motives for wanting to leave Mrs. Pepys behind on this trip to Portsmouth (which I have not, until now, been) could point to his likely knowledge that James Pierce (Pearce), husband to the beautious Mrs. P., would be among the royal welcoming party for the new queen in his role as surgeon to the Duke of York. And Sam might also have known if wives were included among that crowd.

David A. Smith   Link to this

"saluted Mrs. Pierce, but ... could not learn her lodgings, which vexes me"
Now, A. Hamilton, *I* have become suspicious, because of Sam's syntax:

'Mrs. Pierce,' not Mr.
'her lodgings'
'which vexes me'

Add to that Sam's preoccupation with keeping Elizabeth away.
Sam may not contemplate infidelity ... but one senses he knows that Elizabeth would not take kindly to his eager interest in the comely Mrs. Pierce.

Australian Susan   Link to this

Vincent, you have found two beautiful horse portraits! The one of Charles I would have had him on the best available animal: it is an import - no English bred animal of the early 17th c would have looked like that. It is the equivalent of rich people importing Ferraris or Lambourghinis today - not your average nag! The portrait of the escaping Charles II and Jane Lane is hopelessly romantic - if Charles really had been riding around the West Country on a horse like that, he would have stood out like a pterodactyl in a flock of seagulls and been soon apprehended. Artist under royal patronage does not, however, want to show Charles as riding sturdy Welsh Cob (see http://www.welshponyandcob.com/aran/ ) or similar. Too plebeian.

Cumgranissalis   Link to this

Australian Susan: me 'at is off for the incognito part, but I doth keep my cap: rememeber there be min of 2000+ Carriage horses in London town alone dragging Coaches then there be Dray horses, around London and then there be the chargers that were used in the wars. This was the Century of experiment and breeding everything in sight if one believes the stud books at Newmarket and dog Kennel Clubs lists..
Of course for the Plebian mob, it be shanks pony and kids to pull the out the buckets of welsh coles.
Remember too, Sandwich doth bring back some 7 nice Flanders Mares with a nice seat and withers.

Pedro   Link to this

"Horses for Portugal"

I would believe that the horses were part of the cavalry contingent being sent to aid Portugal, and part of the marriage treaty.

"England was to defend Portugal and all its dominions, on land and sea, as if it were her own. Having ready two thirds of infantry of a thousand men each, two regiments of cavalry of 500 men, each one armed and equipped."
See background,
http://www.pepysdiary.com/encyclopedia/2381/

Pedro   Link to this

More horses for Portugal.

It seems that the horses were for the cavalry. The Queene sailed on the 25th April, and as it would take some time to load the ship, it could have met the Queen off the coast of Normandy?

From the Portugese historian Rau...
By the heights of Monte Sao Miguel the fleet crossed with 4 English ships that had come with cavalry to help Portugal, and by them Catarina sent a letter back to her mother.

Terry Foreman   Link to this

"the Queen’s lodgings "

Lodgings had been prepared for Catherine of Braganza in Government House ('God's House'), residence of the Governor. Charles and his Queen were married there by proxy. on 21 May (L&M note)

Government House
On 2nd June 1540, John Incent, Master of the Hospital of St. Nicholas signed the Deed of Surrender that handed the hospital over to the crown, thus ending over 300 years of service to the poor and sick in Portsmouth. From this time onwards, the Domus Dei [ 'God's House' ] (now the Royal Garrison Church), together with its complex of surrounding buildings, became the miltary centre of the town. As was befitting this new role the Domus Dei also became the residence of the 'Captayne', or Governor of Portsmouth.

Some historical records place the marriage ceremony in the chancel of the Domus Dei but it was far too small for a royal wedding. The wedding actually took place in the Presence Chamber in the Governor's House. Lady Fanshawe, the wife of Sir Richard Fanshawe, the ambassador who had negotiated the marriage, says in her memoirs that "... the King married the Queen...in the Presence Chamber of His Majesty's House. There was a rail across the upper part of the room, in which entered only the King and Queen, the Bishop of London (Dr. Gilbert Sheldon), the Marquis Desande, the Portuguese Ambassador and my husband; in the other part of the room there were many of the nobility and servants to their majesties." http://history.inportsmouth.co.uk/places/govern...

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