Saturday 25 August 1660

This morning Mr. Turner and I by coach from our office to Whitehall (in our way I calling on Dr. Walker for the papers I did give him the other day, which he had perused and found that the Duke’s counsel had abated something of the former draught which Dr. Walker drew for my Lord) to Sir G. Carteret, where we there made up an estimate of the debts of the Navy for the Council. At noon I took Mr. Turner and Mr. Moore to the Leg in King Street, and did give them a dinner, and afterward to the Sun Tavern, and did give Mr. Turner a glass of wine, there coming to us Mr. Fowler the apothecary (the judge’s son) with a book of lute lessons which his father had left there for me, such as he formerly did use to play when a young man, and had the use of his hand. To the Privy Seal, and found some business now again to do there. To Westminster Hall for a new half-shirt of Mrs. Lane, and so home by water. Wrote letters by the post to my Lord and to sea. This night W. Hewer brought me home from Mr. Pim’s my velvet coat and cap, the first that ever I had. So to bed.

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Judith Boles   Link to this

Is this another velvet coat, or the same one that he locked up at the Privy Seal Office on the 21st? A velvet mantle, a velvet hat, too...just wish the colors were known.

Jenny Doughty   Link to this

(in our way I calling on Dr. Walker for the papers I did give him the other day, which he had perused and found that the Duke's counsel had abated something of the former draught which Dr. Walker drew for my Lord)

So the Duke’s counsel desexed-up the dossier? How different, how very different…

Paul Brewster   Link to this

the first that ever I made.
L&M substitute the word "made" for "had".

chip   Link to this

On the front cover of the L&M is the Hayls portrait of Pepys that has him in a chestnut brown what looks like velvet coat. He holds in his hand his tune that he wrote. Someone surely knows the url for that portrait. Pepys as usual gives just enough information about an odd person in the diary to imagine their lives. The judge pounded the gavel too much and lost use of his hand, his son became a druggist to help the father. Pepys is the winner as he gets the lute music. Good one Jenny, and especially Paul, what an eye@

Roger Arbor   Link to this

A half-shirt from Betty Lane... she made it, and likely she'll help him take it off!

maureen   Link to this

Here's the Hayls portrait - http://www.npg.org.uk/live/search/portrait.asp?... - NPG exhibition still on and very intruiging.

Mary   Link to this

'..the former draught .'
Interesting that both Wheatley and L&M both vary the spelling of draft/draught, whether it refers to a document or a drink. If this variation reflects a similar variation in the shorthand, it would seem to indicate that Pepys was sometimes using the southern English 'F' pronunciation of the 'gh' palatal group, but at others was using the northern English pronunciation; i.e. the sort of 'ch' sound that is found in Dutch and (more or less) as the final sound in 'loch'.

The L&M Introduction to Vol I tells is that in other contexts, the 'gh' group had been fully assimilated, as would have been expected in southern speech (wright/ rite/ right all being represented by the same shorthand symbol). The draught/draft variation therefore represents a puzzle when written by an educated man, born and brought up in the south of England, where one would have expected to find the 'draft' pronunciation reflected in the shorthand in all contexts.

Matthew   Link to this

Sorry to interfere with your imaginings, Chip, but gavels aren't used in English courts - see 3rd para. here:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/law/story/0,3605,8211...

Barbara   Link to this

I always thought the brown velvet coat Pepys wore in the Hayls portrait was not his normal clothing, but a sort of special fancy dress to be painted in.

Jenny Doughty   Link to this

The commentary on the portrait Maureen linked to says: 'This portrait of Pepys records his likeness at the age of 29 in an 'Indian gown' he hired for the occasion. He had already commissioned a portrait of his wife Elizabeth from the same artist and the painting took five separate sittings from the life. Pepys paid Hayls £14 for the picture and 25s for the frame on 16th May, commenting that he was ‘well satisfied’ with it. The music he holds is his own setting of a lyric by Sir William Davenant, ‘Beauty, retire’. ‘This day I begun to sit [to Halys], and he will make me, I think, a very fine picture. He promises it shall be as good as my wife’s, and I sit to have it full of shadows and so almost break my neck looking over my shoulders to make the posture for him to work by.’ 17th March 1666.’

Paul Brewster   Link to this

Had vs Made
The surmise that this is the same coat is probably a good one. SP uses the same phrase, "the first that ever I made", in both instances and L&M makes the same choice of "made" for "had" in both instances.

The two words don't seem to be the same in the short hand. I'm tempted to believe that Wheatley substituted the more conventional word, 'had', because he felt uncomfortable with this odd indirect usage of the word. SP is after all not a tailor. I'm having problems even finding the correct sense in the OED. It would seem to lie somewhere between the more conventional "make money" and the sense in 29.b below.

Make, v
...
29. a. To gain, acquire, or earn (money, reputation, etc.) by labour, business, or the like. ... Phr. to make (one's) advantage ..., increment of; to make a (or one's) fortune ...; to make capital out of ...; to make a living ...; to make a name (for oneself).

... 1588 Parke tr Mendoza's Hist. China ... Then may the husband afterwardes sell his wife for a slave, and make money of her for the dowrie he gaue her. 1604 Shakes. Oth. i. iii [make all the money thou canst ... therefore make money ... go, make money] 1632 Lithgow Trav. ... This little Ile maketh yearely onely of Currants 160000 Chickins [= sequins].
...
b. slang and dial. To steal. Also, in milder sense, to "acquire", manage to get. …
a1700 B. E. Dict. Cant. Crew, Made, Stolen. I Made this Knife at a beat, I stole it cleaverly. 1740 Dyche & Pardon Dict., Make also to steal or convey privately away. …

Paul Brewster   Link to this

Same Coat
Just to clarify, I meant the same coat on both the 21st and 25th of August and was not drawing conclusions on other contexts.

Paul Brewster   Link to this

Had vs made
In thinking it over I thought of another possible sense that seems to make more sense. In our vernacular it would probably be "the first that ever I [have had] made." in the sense of custom-made clothes. That leads me to wonder if its the first velvet coat he had made for himself (with the stress on velvet) or the first coat of any type he had made for himself.

Ruben Lenger   Link to this

I am fascinated with SP's diary and this site. I became addicted.
I took a long look to John Hayls portrait of a young SP. It is difficult to decide which hand is holding the music. If the thumb looks like a rigth hand thumb, the rest of the hand looks like a left side hand. This ambiguity looks to me appropriated for a SP portrait!

Paul Chapin   Link to this

Sam's age in the Hayls portrait
Thanks to Maureen for the NPG link to the series of SP portraits, it was great to see them in immediate sequence. But the commentary on the first portrait confuses me. Sam was born 1633, and the portrait was painted 1666, all sources agree. Sam was thus 33 when the portrait was painted, not 29 as the commentary states. But this is so obvious I feel like I must have missed something - why would the commentary make such a patent mistake?

Glyn   Link to this

Regarding Ruben's comment: I think someone once said that Pepys was unhappy about the depiction of the hand, and made Hayls redo it.

Ruben Lenger   Link to this

Glyn:
The way to enlarge our knowledge about this matter is to take an X ray of the portrait and see what was left of the original drawing and colour layers below the actual surface. We may be surprised!

Michael Robinson   Link to this

where we there made up an estimate of the debts of the Navy for the Council.

House of Commons Journal Volume 8: 29 December 1660 | British History Online
"September 3d, 1660.

At the Committee for Publick Debts, &c.

Resolved, That Colonel Birch do, with all convenient Speed, report to the House the Estimate of the Debt of his Majesty's Navy, now received from Sir George Cartrett, as well for Stores of all Sorts, as for Wages due; being a Debt, they humbly conceive, fit to be taken care for by the Parliament.

The general State of the Debts upon the Account of his Majesty's Navy, until Twenty-fourth June last past, required from us, the principal Officers and Commissioners of his Majesty's Navy, together with the Increase of the growing Charge of Wages and Victuals, to the Fleet unpaid, until this present Fifth of December 1660.

For the Wages of the Officers and Mariners, serving on board the Seventeen Ships, which yet remain unpaid, of the Twenty-five heretofore directed by the Parliament to be paid out of the Poll Bill, with the Increase of their Charge, to the Fifth of December £. s. d.
128,030 - -
For the Wages of the Officers and Mariners in Eighty-four Ships more, which are yet also in Pay, with the Increase of their Charge, unto the Fifth of December, abating the Thirty-six Ships for the Winter Guard, from the Twenty-fourth of June 1660, which is to be borne by his Majesty 258,459 - -
For the Wages unto the Officers and Workmen of his Majesty's Yards at Deptford, Woolwich, Chatham, Portsmouth, and Harwich; as also unto Ship-keepers of the Ships riding in those Harbours, to the Twenty-fourth of June 1660, per Estimate 42,463 10 -
£. 428,952 10 -
For Bills, regularly passed in this Office, for Provisions delivered, and Service done, from the Year 1657, to the Twenty-fourth June 1660, the Particulars whereof are contained in a Book herewith presented; besides other Bills of the like Nature, which, by reason of the short Warning given, could not be brought in from remote Parts to be therein inserted, which may amount unto, per Estimate, 20,000 l. the Sum of 128,078 13 10
http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.asp?com...

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