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Monday 17 February 1661/62

This morning, both Sir Williams, myself, and Captain Cocke and Captain Tinker of the Convertine, which we are going to look upon (being intended to go with these ships fitting for the East Indys), down to Deptford; and thence, after being on shipboard, to Woolwich, and there eat something. The Sir Williams being unwilling to eat flesh,1 Captain Cocke and I had a breast of veal roasted. And here I drank wine upon necessity, being ill for want of it, and I find reason to fear that by my too sudden leaving off wine, I do contract many evils upon myself. Going and coming we played at gleeke, and I won 9s. 6d. clear, the most that ever I won in my life. I pray God it may not tempt me to play again. Being come home again we went to the Dolphin, where Mr. Alcock and my Lady and Mrs. Martha Batten came to us, and after them many others (as it always is where Sir W. Batten goes), and there we had some pullets to supper. I eat though I was not very well, and after that left them, and so home and to bed.

  1. In Lent, of which the observance, intermitted for nineteen years, was now reviving. We have seen that Pepys, as yet, had not cast off all show of Puritanism. “In this month the Fishmongers’ Company petitioned the King that Lent might be kept, because they had provided abundance of fish for this season, and their prayer was granted.”—Rugge.—B.

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  • This day John Everlyn says…

    “This night was buried in Westminster the Queene of Bohemia

  • “I pray God it may not tempt me to play again”
    Paraphrasing Oscar Wild,SP can resist anything but temptation.

  • Who or what was a “Convertine”?

  • Glyn Asked:

    Who or what was a

  • “…I find reason to fear that by my too sudden leaving off wine, I do contract many evils upon myself.”

    Uh-huh. Followed by…

    “I eat though I was not very well…”

    Sam, he who dost not see the hand of God in this… (As your young Mr. Penn, Jr. would probably point out.)


    “…we went to the Dolphin, where Mr. Alcock and my Lady and Mrs. Martha Batten came to us, and after them many others (as it always is where Sir W. Batten goes)…” Sir Bill Batten, 1660’s London’s beloved party king (after the Stuart boys, naturally).

    I hope the “we” meant Beth was included.

  • Uh-huh. Also followed by

  • “…Fishmongers

  • Covertine: most likely a newish boat with 56 guns

  • Convertine
    a small ship. 44 guns. small 3rd Rate.
    for more info and ilustrated (computer graphics)see:http://anglodutchwarsblog.com/Articles/Commentary/Commentary200404.html

  • Convertine
    in another site I found another Convertine sold to the Portuguese in 1650.
    http://www.kentishknock.com/j-n-c.htm
    so the name probably was reused for “our ” Convertine.
    In another site:
    http://www.mariners-l.co.uk/EICa-e.htm
    with a list of Merchant Vessels in the Service of the East India Company, 1601-1832 the Convertine figures with 240 tons and one voyage in 1661. I presume this is “our” Convertine, later lost to the Dutch.

  • More about Convertine
    a discussion about the 2 ships called Convertine in:
    http://anglo-dutch-wars.blogspot.com/2004/07/english-ship-convertine-44-guns.html

  • Une autre Convertine:
    The French have something different to say about our Convertine:

    “Roger TAYLOR: …Au d

  • Warrington has a note on the Convertine and calls it a fourth-rate of forty-eight guns. In 1665 it was commanded by Captain John Pierce.
    By-the-way on this side of the North Sea we would say the ship was won by the Dutch.

  • In the following list there is a Convertine which matches some descriptions: http://www.kotiposti.net/felipe/Netherland/Ships_1660-1669/ships_1660-1669.html . Not a lot of further details unfortunately. (‘Covertine’ is about half-way the list.

  • Is there any internal logic at all as to how English ships were/are named? Probably not, because a lot of them were converted merchant ships. (I think that there is for American naval ships, though I don’t know what its specifics are.)

    Perhaps languagehat or another multi-linguist might explain the derivation of “Convertine”, because I don’t believe it to be an English word or English surname. The English navy did use foreign names for their ships, so is this one of them?

  • Convertine

    The OED lists “convertine” as meaning “inclined to be converted,” an obsolete and rare word, with one citation, from 1608.

  • Well then, how appropriate, if it had been converted!

  • Ships’ names
    There is more than you may want to now about the current method of naming British Royal Navy ships in an article from the Navy News. The headline is “Long odds on HMS Death Star”.
    http://www.navynews.co.uk/articles/2002/0207/0002073101.asp

    Rather more fun is a webpage about the logic of the families of names used by the RN, USN, and others; the USN having a straightforward system. Oddly enough this is on a science-fiction-role-playing-game website.

  • Oops
    That’s “On the Naming of Ships” http://www.freelancetraveller.com/features/shipyard/naming.html

  • the derivation of

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