Friday 4 October 1667

Up, and to White Hall to attend the Council about Commissioner Pett’s business, along with my Lord Bruncker and Sir W. Pen, and in the Robe-chamber the Duke of York come to us, the officers of the Navy, and there did meet together about Navy business, where Sir W. Coventry was with us, and among other things did recommend his Royal Highness, now the prizes were disposing, to remember Sir John Harman to the King, for some bounty, and also for my Lady Minnes, which was very nobly done of him. Thence all of us to attend the Council, where we were anon called on, and there was a long hearing of Commissioner Pett, who was there, and there were the two Masters Attendant of Chatham called in, who do deny their having any order from Commissioner Pett about bringing up the great ships, which gives the lie to what he says; but, in general, I find him to be but a weak, silly man, and that is guilty of horrid neglect in this business all along. Here broke off without coming to an issue, but that there should be another hearing on Monday next. So the Council rose, and I staid walking up and down the galleries till the King went to dinner, and then I to my Lord Crew’s to dinner; but he having dined, I took a very short leave, confessing I had not dined; and so to an ordinary hard by the Temple-gate, where I have heretofore been, and there dined — cost me 10d. And so to my Lord Ashly’s, where after dinner Sir H. Cholmly, Creed and I, with his Lordship, about Mr. Yeabsly’s business, where having come to agreement with him abating him 1000l. of what he demands for ships lost, I to Westminster, to Mrs. Martin’s lodging, whither I sent for her, and there hear that her husband is come from sea, which is sooner than I expected; and here I staid and drank, and so did toucher elle and away, and so by coach to my tailor’s, and thence to my Lord Crew’s, and there did stay with him an hour till almost night, discoursing about the ill state of my Lord Sandwich, that he can neither be got to be called home, nor money got to maintain him there; which will ruin his family. And the truth is, he do almost deserve it, for by all relation he hath, in a little more than a year and a half, spent 20,000l. of the King’s money, and the best part of 10,000l. of his own; which is a most prodigious expence, more than ever Embassador spent there, and more than these Commissioners of the Treasury will or do allow. And they demand an account before they will give him any more money; which puts all his friends to a loss what to answer. But more money we must get him, or to be called home. I offer to speak to Sir W. Coventry about it; but my Lord will not advise to it, without consent of Sir G. Carteret. So home, and there to see Sir W. Batten, who fell sick yesterday morning: He is asleep: and so I could not see him; but in an hour after, word is brought me that he is so ill, that it is believed he cannot live till to-morrow, which troubles me and my wife mightily, partly out of kindness, he being a good neighbour and partly because of the money he owes me, upon our bargain of the late prize. So home and to supper and to bed.

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Terry Foreman   Link to this

The Duke of York to Sandwich
Written from: St James's
Date: 4 October 1667

Acknowledges the Ambassador's letter of May 14; and congratulates him on the conclusion of the Treaty with Spain.
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Arlington to Sandwich
Written from: Whitehall
Date: 4 October 1667

The writer's illness has in part contributed to the delay of the Spanish business. He now communicates the particulars of two matters, each of which has given rise to much talk in London, and may probably attract notice at Madrid. The first is the return of the Scottish Regiment, under Lord Douglas, into France. It had been recalled when the war with France broke out. But its employment at home created murmurs, and, when Peace was made, Lord Douglas besought His Majesty's permission to return. The second matter is the sending into France of certain Romanist "reformadoes" of the Horse Guards, under command of Mr George Hamilton. They were dismissed at the request of Parliament, and the King gave them leave to seek their fortune.
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Lord Manchester to Sandwich
Written from: Whitehall
Date: 4 October 1667

The taking of the Great Seal from Lord Clarendon has surprised very many. "It is hoped that it will go no further." Adds that the intended marriage of Lord Hinchinbroke should be brought to some conclusion; and expresses his opinion that it would be well if Lord Sandwich would signify his resolution thereupon.

http://www.rsl.ox.ac.uk/dept/scwmss/projects/ca...

Todd Bernhardt   Link to this

"word is brought me that he is so ill, that it is believed he cannot live till to-morrow, which troubles me and my wife mightily, partly out of kindness, he being a good neighbour and partly because of the money he owes me, upon our bargain of the late prize."

And there, my lords and ladies, do we have Samuel Pepys summed up in one short sentence.

Spin2Win   Link to this

"...and so did toucher elle..."

Anyone know if the French phrases are Sam's, or the publisher's?

Did he write them as French in his shorthand, or was the publisher being polite, and rewording Sam's writings?

Paul Chapin   Link to this

Sam consistently resorts to French (or Spanish or Latin or an unholy combination of all of them) when he is describing his sexual exploits. The editor of the edition we are reading (Wheatley) often replaces these passages with ellipses, which some of our annotators are good enough to fill in with the original text, as represented in the newer, definitive edition (Latham and Matthews).

Paul E   Link to this

" ...and partly because of the money he owes me, upon our bargain of the late prize.”

Don't judge SP to harshly. His candor is what makes the diary so astonishing. His is a natural thought, its just that no decent person would utter it.

Robert Gertz   Link to this

I'd say many would in heart have harsher things to say about dying colleagues and neighbors who owe them money. Sam is truly fond of Batten but Batten is secure, so far as we know and Sam is a man whose whole life and wife's life depends on a few thousand pounds squirreled away. This is potentially a huge blow to Sam's savings and retirement fund, not to mention the money still awaiting recovery buried out at Brampton. No doubt thoughts of Lord Sandwich's increasingly desperate situation weigh heavily as well. One might suspect many similar thoughts circulate round family tables in these rough economic times. "We love dear old Uncle Abe, but we better see how much Enron robbed from his pension fund before he dies", etc.

Phoenix   Link to this

Actually I think TB pretty well hits the mark and I don't see it as particularly harsh. Sam expresses a good heart and a natural self interest and does so with exquisite honesty - perhaps with a bias toward interest.

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