Wednesday 16 March 1663/64

And then I rose and up, leaving my wife in bed, and to my brother’s, where I set them on cleaning the house, and my wife coming anon to look after things, I up and down to my cozen Stradwicke’s and uncle Fenner’s about discoursing for the funeral, which I am resolved to put off till Friday next. Thence home and trimmed myself, and then to the ‘Change, and told my uncle Wight of my brother’s death, and so by coach to my cozen Turner’s and there dined very well, but my wife … in great pain we were forced to rise in some disorder, and in Mrs. Turner’s coach carried her home and put her to bed. Then back again with my cozen Norton to Mrs. Turner’s, and there staid a while talking with Dr. Pepys, the puppy, whom I had no patience to hear. So I left them and to my brother’s to look after things, and saw the coffin brought; and by and by Mrs. Holden came and saw him nailed up. Then came W. Joyce to me half drunk, and much ado I had to tell him the story of my brother’s being found clear of what was said, but he would interrupt me by some idle discourse or other, of his crying what a good man, and a good speaker my brother was, and God knows what. At last weary of him I got him away, and I to Mrs. Turner’s, and there, though my heart is still heavy to think of my poor brother, yet I could give way to my fancy to hear Mrs. The. play upon the Harpsicon, though the musique did not please me neither. Thence to my brother’s and found them with my mayd Elizabeth taking an inventory of the goods of the house, which I was well pleased at, and am much beholden to Mr. Honeywood’s man in doing of it. His name is Herbert, one that says he knew me when he lived with Sir Samuel Morland, but I have forgot him. So I left them at it, and by coach home and to my office, there to do a little business, but God knows my heart and head is so full of my brother’s death, and the consequences of it, that I can do very little or understand it. So home to supper, and after looking over some business in my chamber I to bed to my wife, who continues in bed in some pain still. This day I have a great barrel of oysters given me by Mr. Barrow, as big as 16 of others, and I took it in the coach with me to Mrs. Turner’s, and give them to her. This day the Parliament met again, after a long prorogation, but what they have done I have not been in the way to hear.

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cape henry   Link to this

A day of much busyness with Pepys doing what he is so good at, looking after things large (nailing up the coffin) and small (taking oysters to Mrs. Turner), all the while admitting to his personal grief and disorder. As a carry over from yesterday, he is still making it known - and clear - that his brother did not suffer from the pox. My curiosity, though, centers on the meaning of "Friday next." Does he mean day after tomorrow or nine days hence? My understanding of the term would lead me to think he means the latter, but that seems like a long time to postpone the burial in the pre-refrigeration era.

Nate   Link to this

"Next" should mean the next or nearest occurrence, that is, the day after tomorrow.

Terry F   Link to this

"..., but my wife ... in great pain..."

"But my wife, having those upon her today and in great pain,...." (L&M).

Michael Robinson   Link to this

Parliament met again, ..., but what they have done I have not been in the way to hear.

"That His Majesty did intend to have come to the House this Day; but, in regard He understands that many Members of Parliament are coming up, and are not yet come, His Majesty thinks it fit to defer it until Monday Morning next, at which Time He intends to come in Person"

'House of Lords Journal Volume 11: 16 March 1664', Journal of the House of Lords: volume 11: 1660-1666, p. 581. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.asp?com.... Date accessed: 17 March 2007.

Jesse   Link to this

"Dr. Pepys, the puppy"

Johnson has for puppy 'A name of contemptuous reproach to a man' citing 'Shakspeare'. Curious that youth seems to have no part.

A. De Araujo   Link to this

"Curious that youth seems to have no part"
Maybe it has to do with Puppet or Pupe.

Robert Gertz   Link to this

Interesting fellow, Dr. Tom. Advanced medical training in Padua yet he can barely write (though perhaps they taught him that as part of the program..."No, Pepys. That prescription is too legible!"). Was he from the branch of the family with money to burn to allow an idiot son to while away his time at Yale drunk in the...Ooop, wrong family...er, while away his time in Padua? I know some well-off young men could more or less snooze their way through medical or legal training at the time, but it seems unlikely Dr. Tom could've breezed through his BA and MA at Trinity. Could he have been 'helped' through? Or is the good doctor a man exceptional in youth but wearing badly?

It would be easy to see why Sam might resent a relative who had such opportunities handed to him if he actually could make little good use of them. ("You're sending that blockhead for an MA? To medical school in Italy?") Still would be interesting to know if Sam's opinion is justified and/or if the doctor Pepys was a better man in youth.

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Robert Gertz   Link to this

The was sweet... (Spoiler)

Based on this, earlier, and future encounters, I've always suspected she had a crush on Sam.

Bradford   Link to this

"discoursing for the funeral, which I am resolved to put off till Friday next."

But as this is Wednesday, having the funeral Friday is scarcely putting it off. Intuition says this is short for "Friday next week" (i.e., "Friday week"). Can someone cite an authority? Not in the L&M glossaries.

Nate   Link to this

# adjacent: nearest in space or position; immediately adjoining without intervening space; "had adjacent rooms"; "in the next room"; "the person sitting next to me"; "our rooms were side by side"
# future(a): (of elected officers) elected but not yet serving; "our next president"
# following: immediately following in time or order; "the following day"; "next in line"; "the next president"; "the next item on the list"
# at the time or occasion immediately following; "next the doctor examined his back"

wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn

This is modern American useage, of course.

I can't imagine that they will keep the corpse unburied for 10 days with no refrigeration. but it will all come clear on Monday!

Terry F   Link to this

"the funeral, which I am resolved to put off till Friday next."

The point of this phrase seems to be that the funeral will not be immediate. What was the rule -- the done thing, given the need to deal with the putrification of the corpse, as cape henry observes? One might review previous deaths and funerals to find a rule or two. The family or benefactors need to gather? What are SP's alternatives? Surely the morrow, Thursday. Perhaps the emphasis in the phrase above is on Friday rather than upon "next," which comes along for the ride, as it were, meaning "the next" or "nearest" as Nate suggests?

Australian Susan   Link to this

Is Sam delaying because he is waiting to see if his father wants to travel from Brampton? And what has happened to his mother - we heard that she was expected, but Sam has been silent on this matter. Furthermore, he has not mentioned what effect the death will have on the parents, or ister.

"the music did not please me" Is it The.'s taste or playing which makes Sam not enjoy the performance, I wonder? Or just that he's too distracted.

JWB   Link to this

Uncle Robert's example:
He died on the 5th and was buried on the afternoon of the 7th. That was July though.
Recall that he had to be carried outside overnight 6-7.

Rex Gordon   Link to this

Friday next?

We'll know in two entries, anyway.

Pedro   Link to this

Parliament met again, ..., but what they have done I have not been in the way to hear.

Michael, it seems that the Commons did meet and the Lords postponed?

The fourth Session of the second Parliament.

March 16, after an interval of near eight Months, the Parliament assembled again, and the King open'd the Session with a Speech from the Throne as follows.

From: 'The second parliament of Charles II: Fourth session - begins 16/3/1664', The History and Proceedings of the House of Commons : volume 1: 1660-1680 (1742), pp. 72-80. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.asp?com.... Date accessed: 31 March 2007.

http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.asp?com...

Michael Robinson   Link to this

it seems that the Commons did meet and the Lords postponed?

I also caught the text of the Kings Speech to both houses (Lords and Commons) in Chandler, History and Proceedings (1742) which you cite; I assume he is in error and for some reason was not aware of the postponement and placed the text of the King's Speech where it would usually occur, on the first day of a session. Contemporary sources, the Official Journals of Lords and Commons, and Pepys, note a delay. I cited the Lords journal above. The official journal of the Commons reads:-

Mercurii, 16 die Martii, 16 Car. IIdi.

Prayers.
Message form the King.

Mr. Secretary Morrice delivers a Message from his Majesty, to this Effect; viz. That his Majesty did passionately long to see His Houses of Parliament; and thought the Time long, till He did meet them: But he did hear, there were several Members upon the Road, who would be here in a few Days: And that his Majesty had some Occasions, which did, at present, somewhat impede His coming to meet His Houses of Parliament.

Ordered, That this House be adjourned till Monday Morning next, at Eight of the Clock.

'House of Commons Journal Volume 8: 16 March 1664', Journal of the House of Commons: volume 8: 1660-1667 (1802), p. 534.
URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.asp?com.... Date accessed: 01 April 2007.

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