Friday 6 March 1662/63

Up betimes, and about eight o’clock by coach with four horses, with Sir J. Minnes and Sir W. Batten, to Woolwich, a pleasant day. There at the yard we consulted and ordered several matters, and thence to the rope yard and did the like, and so into Mr. Falconer’s, where we had some fish, which we brought with us, dressed; and there dined with us his new wife, which had been his mayde, but seems to be a genteel woman, well enough bred and discreet. Thence after dinner back to Deptford, where we did as before, and so home, good discourse in our way, Sir J. Minnes being good company, though a simple man enough as to the business of his office, but we did discourse at large again about Sir W. Pen’s patent to be his assistant, and I perceive he is resolved never to let it pass. To my office, and thence to Sir W. Batten’s, where Major Holmes was lately come from the Streights, but do tell me strange stories of the faults of Cooper his master, put in by me, which I do not believe, but am sorry to hear and must take some course to have him removed, though I believe that the Captain is proud, and the fellow is not supple enough to him. So to my office again to set down my Journall, and so home and to bed. This evening my boy Waynman’s brother was with me, and I did tell him again that I must part with the boy, for I will not keep him. He desires my keeping him a little longer till he can provide for him, which I am willing for a while to do. This day it seems the House of Commons have been very high against the Papists, being incensed by the stir which they make for their having an Indulgence; which, without doubt, is a great folly in them to be so hot upon at this time, when they see how averse already the House have showed themselves from it. This evening Mr. Povy was with me at my office, and tells me that my Lord Sandwich is this day so ill that he is much afeard of him, which puts me to great pain, not more for my own sake than for his poor family’s.

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dirk   Link to this

The Rev. Josselin today -- on the power or prayer...

"went to Mr Butchers at Pannels ash in Castle Hedingham, whilst with him I spied fire in the lane, occasioned by a boy carrying a brand to kindle fire at his Masters house, (but whether wilful or occasional god knows.) this fired hamm in the lane, and that the corner of a barn, and the whole barn worth about 40li. burnt in half an hour. I coming in saw the danger of his great barn, and praying to god the wind a little wheeled which much tended to secure it, blessed be god, a wonderful answer of prayer, and by use of due means, all else preserved: Isay. 65.24. god answered while speaking."

in Aqua Scripto   Link to this

Got an upgrade ? "...by coach with four horses..."

in Aqua Scripto   Link to this

There goes that old adage Poor Maids *** help them, now that the pretty maid has married the Laird, she knows where the silver ware be.
....."...there dined with us his new wife, which had been his mayde, but seems to be a genteel woman, well enough bred and discreet..."

Robert Gertz   Link to this

Would that every inspection team should bring their own dinner.

Robert Gertz   Link to this

"Assistant?" Sir John ponders...

Well, if you put it that way.

in Aqua Scripto   Link to this

House on the 6th did organise a committe to regulate Corporations,. and another gang to come up with a scheme for the prevention of illegally removing of silver and gold plate from the Goldsmiths.
.....Then the big todo on Popery.
1] get Judges and kin to give just punishment and tattle on those that be nice and lenient.....
2]get Snitches on those that fail to take the Sacrament and send the varmits to the Assizes......
3]Those that refuse to take the Oath of Supremcy and Allegiance will then have to pay the consequences of this deed......

4] any 16 old or older that forsakes his Protesting ways and supports the RC way will be sent to foreign climes and lose his lands etc..

The bill to be read a third time.
So James and Charles , do thy want to keep thy Kingdom.

.....More be said at eight of the clock To-morrow.

the unexpunged [pungent] version here. http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.asp?com...

in Aqua Scripto   Link to this

Charles checking his legal rights
.List of the Acts touching the King's Power in Ecclesiastical Affairs.

From: 'House of Lords Journal Volume 11: 5 March 1663', Journal of the House of Lords: volume 11: 1660-1666, pp. 486-89. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.asp?com.... Date accessed: 07 March 2006.

Bill concerning the King's Power in Ecclesiastical Affairs.
The House was adjourned during Pleasure, and turned into a Grand Committee, for the farther Debating of the Act concerning His Majesty's Power in Ecclesiastical Affairs.
And the Lord Chamberlain of the Household took the Chair, as formerly he had done for the same Bill.
The House was resumed, after long Debate.

From: 'House of Lords Journal Volume 11: 6 March 1663', Journal of the House of Lords: volume 11: 1660-1666, pp. 489-90. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.asp?com.... Date accessed: 07 March 2006.

TerryF.   Link to this

"Isay. 65.24." --

"And it shall come to pass, that before they call, I will answer; and while they are yet speaking, I will hear." http://www.hti.umich.edu/cgi/k/kjv/kjv-idx?type...

Terry F.   Link to this

"the fellow is not supple enough to him"
-- "supple" = compliant or adaptable. Have we two men cut from the same cloth?

andy   Link to this

"Sir J. Minnes being good company":
:
what change here!

(I can't get used to this new formatting)

Martin   Link to this

The wheel grinds slowly.

Sam found back in September that Waynman had turned into a "rogue" during Elizabeth's stay in the country; resolved in December to get rid of him and told Waynman's brother; now a stay of execution. Let's see how much longer "a little longer" is.

Wim van der Meij   Link to this

--and the fellow is not supple enough to him--- Might not -subtle- been meant here?

in Aqua Scripto   Link to this

"...This day it seems the House of Commons have been very high against the Papists, being incensed by the stir which they make for their having an Indulgence; which, without doubt, is a great folly in them to be so hot upon at this time, when they see how averse already the House have showed themselves from it..."...............
Tolerance? ....meanwhile many are languishing in the Gaols.
........ No room for differing thought,
........has anything changed?

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