Sunday 1 March 1662/63

(Lord’s day). Up and walked to White Hall, to the Chappell, where preached one Dr. Lewes, said heretofore to have been a great witt; but he read his sermon every word, and that so brokenly and so low, that nobody could hear at any distance, nor I anything worth hearing that sat near. But, which was strange, he forgot to make any prayer before sermon, which all wonder at, but they impute it to his forgetfulness. After sermon a very fine anthem; so I up into the house among the courtiers, seeing the fine ladies, and, above all, my Lady Castlemaine, who is above all, that only she I can observe for true beauty. The King and Queen being set to dinner I went to Mr. Fox’s, and there dined with him. Much genteel company, and, among other things, I hear for certain that peace is concluded between the King of France and the Pope; and also I heard the reasons given by our Parliament yesterday to the King why they dissent from him in matter of Indulgence, which are very good quite through, and which I was glad to hear. Thence to my Lord Sandwich, who continues with a great cold, locked up; and, being alone, we fell into discourse of my uncle the Captain’s death and estate, and I took the opportunity of telling my Lord how matters stand, and read his will, and told him all, what a poor estate he hath left, at all which he wonders strangely, which he may well do. Thence after singing some new tunes with W. Howe I walked home, whither came Will. Joyce, whom I have not seen here a great while, nor desire it a great while again, he is so impertinent a coxcomb, and yet good natured, and mightily concerned for my brother’s late folly in his late wooing at the charge to no purpose, nor could in any probability a it. He gone, we all to bed, without prayers, it being washing day to-morrow.

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TerryF   Link to this

"nor could in any probability a it."

L&M have "nor could in any probability expect it."

TerryF   Link to this

Doing his best, Dr. Lewis (sic) feebly forgets.

L&M note he is 71, and who knows whether he suffers from gout or ague, as many of the aged apparently did.

(Posted further info on him in the Background. http://www.pepysdiary.com/encyclopedia/5983/#c4... )

Josh   Link to this

"he read his sermon every word, and that so brokenly and so low, that nobody could hear at any distance, nor I anything worth hearing that sat near" . . . "my Lady Castlemaine, who is above all, that only she I can observe for true beauty".

Might the unheard text have been Isaiah 3:24?
"And it shall come to pass, that instead of sweet smell there shall be stink; and instead of a girdle a rent; and instead of well set hair baldness; and instead of a stomacher a girding of sackcloth; and burning instead of beauty."

Alan Bedford   Link to this

"Might the unheard text have been Isaiah 3:24?"

Very a propos, but March 1 is St. David's Day (patron saint of Wales) and this year (1663) it's Quinquagesima Sunday. The recently-adopted Book of Common Prayer
http://www.eskimo.com/~lhowell/bcp1662/communio...
says that the Epistle is I Corinthians 13, and the Gospel is Luke 18:31ff

TerryF   Link to this

The lectionary addresses the situation in the Chappell.

From The Epistle. 2 Cor. 11. 19:
"Charity...Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things...If I must needs glory, I will glory of the things which concern mine infirmities."

From The Gospel. St. Luke 8. 4.
"If I must needs glory, I will glory of the things which concern mine infirmities."

Thank you, Alan Bedford.

in Aqua Scripto   Link to this

" he is 71, and who knows whether he suffers from gout or ague, as many of the aged apparently did. "
Tis Sam that has to get bees was out?

1 Corinthians 13:1-2
If I speak in the tongues of men and angels,
but have not love,
I have become sounding brass or a tinkling symbol.
And if I have prophecy and know all mysteries and all knowledge,
and if I have all faith so as to remove mountains,
but have not love, I am nothing.
Luke 18:31ff (NASV): "Then Jesus took the twelve aside and said to them, ‘Behold, we are going to Jerusalem, and all things which are written through the prophets about the Son of Man will be accomplished. For he will be handed over to the Gentiles, and will be mocked and mistreated and spit upon. And after they have scourged him, they will kill him, and the third day he will rise again.’"

in Aqua Scripto   Link to this

Erratta: I forgot it be bees WAX;

Firenze   Link to this

'we all to bed, without prayers, it being washing day to-morrow.' Not sure what is the connection - possibly that they all needed an early night? - since washing would mean rising in the small hours to set the fire to heat the copper to produce the volume of hot water needed.

Or is it just, that faced with a day of scrubbing, soaking, slapping wet linen about, wringing, hanging, taking down, ironing, starching, goffering etc - no one felt particularly thankful to Almighty God?

Mary   Link to this

to bed without prayers.

Perhaps if Will Joyce had not stayed talking until quite so late, there might have been time for prayers AND an early night for all.

TerryF   Link to this

The ecclesiastical years 1663 and 2006 compared:

This year (2006) Quinquagesima Sunday, St. David’s Day, was last Sunday, or so I was told; yesterday was Ash Wednesday and we are now in Lent, with laundry to do -- of this I am certain.

alanB.   Link to this

No prayers before sermon, no prayers before bed. Sam's on a slippery slope. As regards it be washing day ahead, when I have to press that program button, I usually mutter a prayer that I have hit upon the right sequence. I suspect that this is a man thing!

Stolzi   Link to this

"my uncle"

This link should be
http://www.pepysdiary.com/encyclopedia/884/
not 883, which faileth.

Sam doesn't say his prayers, is merciless towards bad sermons, and has a good deal of skepticism regarding what the Established Church teaches, but he doesn't want any other groups to exercise religious freedom, oh no.

Perhaps not a totally unjustified attitude, seeing how intimately these matters were tied in with politicks.

Mary   Link to this

peace between the King of France and the Pope.

This is a false report. Diplomatic relations had not yet been re-established between them and no peace would be concluded for another 12 months.

TerryF   Link to this

The ecclesiastical years 1663 and 2006 compared more exactly:

This year (2006) Quinquagesima Sunday, was last Sunday, 26 February; yesterday, 1 March, was Ash Wednesday and we are now in Lent.

Lastly, "Quinquagesima is the name for the Sunday before Ash Wednesday. It was also called Quinquagesima Sunday, Shrove Sunday or Esto Mihi. The name originates from Latin *quinquagesimus* (fiftieth), referring to the fifty days before Good Friday (this calculation includes Sundays, unlike the forty-day calculation for Ash Wednesday itself)."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quinquagesima

chris   Link to this

... and mightily concerned for my brother’s late folly in his late wooing at the charge to no purpose, nor could in any probability a it.

Is there anyone out there amongst you good people who could shed some light on the above phrase? "Wooing at the charge" - "nor could in any probability a (expect)it"? Translated into "good" English meaning what?

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