Wednesday 25 February 1662/63

Up and to my office, where with Captain Cocke making an end of his last night’s accounts till noon, and so home to dinner, my wife being come in from laying out about 4l. in provision of several things against Lent. In the afternoon to the Temple, my brother’s, the Wardrobe, to Mr. Moore, and other places, called at about small businesses, and so at night home to my office and then to supper and to bed. The Commons in Parliament, I hear, are very high to stand to the Act of Uniformity, and will not indulge the Papists (which is endeavoured by the Court Party) nor the Presbyters.

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TerryF   Link to this

"The Commons in Parliament, I hear, are very high to stand to the Act of Uniformity"

"Resolved, &c. That it be presented to the King's Majesty, as the humble Advice of this House, That no Indulgence be granted to the Dissenters from the Act of Uniformity."

From: 'House of Commons Journal Volume 8: 25 February 1663', Journal of the House of Commons: volume 8: 1660-1667 (1802), pp. 439-40. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.asp?com.... Date accessed: 22 February 2006.

dirk   Link to this

"provision of several things against Lent"

With Ash Wednesday on 4 March, and Easter on 19 April, there's only a week left before Lent begins.

JWB   Link to this

Presbyters
This enmity to last from one revolution to another. When Gen'l Howe settled into Philadelphia winter 1777-8, Presbyterian (& Baptist) churches confiscated to stable the horses. Holes were punched thru the floors and the cellars were filled with dung.

TerryF   Link to this

"with Captain Cocke making an end of his...accounts"

The lessons of the Riga hemp bought on credit are done.
'Twill be interesting to see whether we can trace anything done by Sam'l later on back to it.

Robert Gertz   Link to this

"What's this? What's this?"

Ummn...A startled Pepys stares at the suddenly entered King Charles. An assortment of puppies fussing at his boots.

All present but the Duke bowing low...

"Young Pepys here was delivering us a report..." Coventry begins from his bent position.

"Yes, yes. So I heard." Charles waves a hand, all rising. "Hemp, was it? Very interesting, yes. Heard quite a bit myself about the stuff, back in the old days in Amsterdam. Yes, fascinating. Think I'll look into it myself."

"Sire?" Jamie stares.

"Yes, send...Oh, say...A hundred pounds over to my offices. By tonight. Yes. I think I'll have Buckingham and a few of his friends join me in my reseaches. Natural Philosophy marches on and all that. And I'm sure Castlemaine and some of the Queen's ladies would be interested. Yes, one must always seek to raise up the weaker vessel to the higher intellectual pursuits you know. Yes...Well...Carry on, lads." Cheery wave.

in Aqua Scripto   Link to this

Why the papists be such victims, all of the Liturgy be near the same, more pomp than Hi Anglican, but the Laudist like that, the Lords spiritual can twist C's nose. AH!, But the monie trail, that be 'difering', have to render unto the Vatican the Roman portion along with some power. But as the situation be here, they be their own boss in reality and can spend as they please. All the other Sects be Saxon in content, and if the fire of bigots gets hot they at least have other venues to test new springs in the far off lands.

in Aqua Scripto   Link to this

resolved & no one contradict;
that 'umble thanks of this House be returned to the king's Majesty for his 1]...Constancy in the observation of the Act of Indeminity;
2]Profession against introducing a Government by Military Power;
3] gracious Invitatation to this house to prepare some Laws against the Growth and Progress of Popery
4] resolution to maintain the Act of Uniformity
5] for gracious Recommeddation to this House, to prepare Laws against Licentiousness and Impiety; and to provide Sumptuary Laws; and Laws for the Advance of trae; and for his Majesty's gracious Exprissions, to retrench the Charge and Ecpences of his own Family
Finally : Then the house Debated the matter touching Indulgence to Dissenters, from the the Act of Uniformity;
Voted against helpiing the Dissedents[ 200 vicars defrocked] 161 to 119; tough[no Indulgence] on those that will not follow the new book.
I do like point Five.
[from : URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.asp?com...]
no ones to put up a stance the Civil war did weaken any resolve]
Charles be slowly getting total control , His leadership be so uplifting with such hi ideals ; All power seekers take note; let thy populus be merry then enjoy.

TerryF   Link to this

Thanks, in Aqua Scripto for the fine summary of this day in the H of C. The URL has captured a square bracket at its end, absent which there is http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.asp?com...

Stolzi   Link to this

Oh yes, His Majesty graciously said he would cut back on expenses! How nice, how gracious and charming.

This was the man of whom it was said "whose word no man relies on."

JohnT   Link to this

An interesting insight into the plight of a rather secular man who has to invest quite a large sum of money "against Lent". For the modern devout, Lent would involve 3 disciplines to different degrees - fasting, almsgiving, and prayer. I doubt that Sam and Liz are splashing out on almsgiving and prayer is fortunately cheap. So why does fasting require funding ? Again the current and past concept of " mardi gras " or " fat tuesday" is to use up the luxury items of food before Ash Wednesday because they will not be required before Easter day. Do the couple need to buy now things that simply will not be available for another forty days ? Does strict religious observance control supply during Lent if not demand ?

A. De Araujo   Link to this

"in provision of several things against Lent"
Most likely salted and smoked fish and other type of seafood; some meat on the side,who knows, they did not believe in Purgatory.

language hat   Link to this

"very high to stand to the Act of Uniformity"

The phrasal verb "stand to" had a wide range of meanings at this time. I quote the ones that might possibly apply from the OED, with a few more or less contemporary citations:

a. To submit oneself to, abide by (a trial, award); to obey, accede to, be bound by (another's judgement, decision, opinion, etc.).
1616 A. CHAMPNEY Voc. Bps. 21 Such a Reformer is not bound to stand to the judgement of the Church. 1692 BENTLEY Boyle Lect. vi. 5 Will they not stand to the grand Verdict and Determination of the Universe?

c. To apply oneself manfully to (a fight, contest, etc.).
1632 LITHGOW Trav. VII. 328 Saylers have the paine By drudging, pulling, hayling, standing to it In cold and raine.

f. To confront and take the consequences of (a chance, hazard, peril); to abide by (the issue or consequences of an event).
1610 J. MORE in Buccleuch MSS. I. 87 Let all alone, and stand to all adventures.

g. To endure, bear, put up with (harm, pain); to make good, bear the expense of (damage, loss); to defray, be answerable for (expenses); to accept liability for (a tribute or tax).
1622 MABBE tr. Aleman's Guzman d'Alf. II. 150, I shall be content to stand to any losse that you shall suffer thereby. a1633 G. HERBERT Priest to Temple xxvi. Rem. (1652) 111 Many think they are at more liberty then they are, as if they were Masters of their health, and so [= provided that] they will stand to the pain, all is well. But to eat to ones hurt, comprehends, besides the hurt, an act against reason.

h. To side with, help, back, support (a person); to maintain, uphold (a cause, interest, etc.); to remain faithful or loyal to.
1652 WADSWORTH tr. Sandoval's Civ. Wars Spain 258 They desired, that Valladolid would assist and stand to them, as they had promissed.
1553 T. WILSON Rhet. 19 The one will make his felowe to stande to the bargain, though it be to his neighbors vndoyng. 1652 GAULE Magastrom. 252 She, having already obtained her desire, refused to stand to her promise.

j. (a) To adhere to (a statement, etc.); to persist in affirming or asserting.
a1677 BARROW Pope's Suprem. 249 They.. stood to the canonicalness of the former decision. 1688 Lett. conc. Pres. State Italy 184 He stood to his denial, and said, he knew nothing.

The last two seem the most likely to me, but make up your own minds.

language hat   Link to this

Oops!
I left out definition i. (which goes with the Wilson and Gaule cites):

i. To adhere to, abide by, carry out (a promise, vow, bargain, compact, etc.).
1553 T. WILSON Rhet. 19 The one will make his felowe to stande to the bargain, though it be to his neighbors vndoyng. 1652 GAULE Magastrom. 252 She, having already obtained her desire, refused to stand to her promise.

So when I said "the last two," I meant "the last three." Sorry about that!

in Aqua Scripto   Link to this

As noted by CII, Fish be scarce and price be high thereby CII let the peoples off from strict conforming or enforcing of the edicts of the past.“in provision of several things against Lent”
"Most likely salted and smoked fish and other type of seafood;"
But being a lady who can afford what the ordinary /common folk cannot, gives many that great sense of "*" or some gratification, ah! affluence be nice.

E   Link to this

Is Bess cannily buying a week before Lent starts because she expects prices to rise?

language hat   Link to this

Four pounds seems like a lot of money for groceries.

in Aqua Scripto   Link to this

LH: great point, I be of the opinion, it be for some grand clothing to show the Ladies of the local womens group.

Pauline   Link to this

AS: interesting point. A great loss here, to Elizabeth in our reading and other women i'm sure, that there are no women's groups, coffee klatches, aerobic classes, junior leagues, ladies lunching, soccer mom's, church ladies, suffragettes, knitting circles, quilting bees, and other good works. Instead a protracted effort to hire someone in for comfort.

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