Monday 11 August 1662

All the morning at the office. Dined at home all alone, and so to my office again, whither Dean Fuller came to see me, and having business about a ship to carry his goods to Dublin, whither he is shortly to return, I went with him to the Hermitage, and the ship happening to be Captn. Holland’s I did give orders for them to be well looked after, and thence with him to the Custom House about getting a pass for them, and so to the Dolphin tavern, where I spent 6d. on him, but drank but one glass of wine, and so parted. He tells me that his niece, that sings so well, whom I have long longed to see, is married to one Mr. Boys, a wholesale man at the Three Crowns in Cheapside. I to the office again, whither Cooper came and read his last lecture to me upon my modell, and so bid me good bye, he being to go to-morrow to Chatham to take charge of the ship I have got him. So to my business till 9 at night, and so to supper and to bed, my mind a little at ease because my house is now quite tiled.

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Robert Gertz   Link to this

Our boy is now "the man to see"...With no time at present for a roving eye.

Holland seems a dangerous 'friend' to have judging by the annotation.

Robert Gertz   Link to this

Yes, I am ridiculously pleased with that last one. But I didn't name him...

Terry F.   Link to this

language hat, wikipedia sez "Cheapside is a common English street name, meaning 'market-place'. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheapside

Pray tell, if that is the case, how does it come to that?!

Don McCahill   Link to this

The word Cheapside comes from the Anglo Saxon word Ceap, which means cattle, and relates to the sale of Cattle. Thus Cheap basical means market, and there are several cheaps in England, including Cheapside, West Cheap and East Cheap in London.

Terry F.   Link to this

Thank you, Don McCahill! The Background info deserves that too.

Mary House   Link to this

I believe the word "chipping" which is attached to a number of place names in England also means market. Probably comes from the same source.

JWB   Link to this

A brief history of rooftiles:
http://www.rooftiles.co.uk/history.php4

Terry F.   Link to this

Dean Fuller's niece "that sings so well"

How long has it been since we heard about music?! or since Sam sung [pun unintended]. played his Lyre viol or theorbo, took lessons?

Is this the consequence of the vows he broke today ("but drank but one glass of wine") to be sociable to Dean Fuller and keep his priorities in order?

(Mary House and JWB, thanks to you I am learning several new things today! I expect some others are too.)

Cumgranissalis   Link to this

chip off the old block ? doth it mean that the old man got his son at the market.? Ceap spoken sounds like sheap market, rather than Cattle? Our spelling of the Kynges hed did change, but not the audio as much ?

Jacqueline Gore   Link to this

So that's what all the "Cheap" means. Better than "Discount" or "Cut-rate" anyway. "Discountside", "Cutrateside", etc.

Ok, I just got the "Holland" bit, Robert.

Very funny (grim look), slight spoiler.

Terry F.   Link to this

Ah, Cumgranissalis, some things be counterintuitive evidently:

Google brings tidings from Anglo-Ssxon resources at Florida State and Fordham Universities:

Glossary -- Sermo Lupi

ceap
m cattle, value, property
http://english3.fsu.edu/~wulfstan/glossary.html

Medieval Sourcebook:
The Anglo-Saxon Dooms, 560-975

ceapgeld = market price, purchase price
http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/source/560-975do...

Oh, well...(or not)...

Australian Susan   Link to this

"dined all alone"
Sounds as though Jane is throwing the food on the table and scarpering off smartish.
Cheap/Chipping.
Examples are Chipping Norton, Chipping Warden,Chipping Sodbury and plain old Chipping on its own, but Chippenham derives from the personal name Cippa and Hamm (enclosure) both Old English words. "Ceping" is the OE word for market. The Latin for this is Forum and Blandforum Forum is also named Chipping Blandford in some old documents. "Ing" is the suffix denoting "the people of". So some "Chippings" when they are combined with another suffix such as "hurst" (wood/copse) or "dale" (valley) could mean the valley where the people of Cippa live (Chippingdale) ditto wood (Chippinghurst).Incidently, Wincheap St in Canterbury means waggon market (wain for waggon). Sorry, I'll shut up. Who got me started on place names? Tsk. Tsk. Must do some work......

Terry F.   Link to this

"Cheap" - Surprise derivation: should have gone first to what sits beside me (sic) and is at Bartleby: The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language: Fourth Edition. 2000.

“ETYMOLOGY — From Middle English (god) chep, (good) price, purchase, bargain, from Old English cap, trade, from Latin caup, shopkeeper”

http://www.bartleby.com/61/27/C0262700.html

Oy, Cumgranissalis, more counterintuitive than I would have supposed ever; and winds up your bailiwick (sort of).

Robert Gertz   Link to this

"Dined alone" is a relative term for the era in which servants and slaves were everywhere in the shadows. Jane's presence would likely not have counted. I remember a passage from a book set in the nineteenth century where the narrator was 'solitary' in his study...but in fact four servants were tending him and the room at the time.

Robert Gertz   Link to this

Maybe the "corker" in regard to ignoring servants' presence is young Eleanor Roosevelt's colossal PR goof during WWI... Young, shy (and lovely) Ms. R had been asked to allow a newspaper piece on how her five-child household was fulfilling WWI conservation efforts and somehow did not realize that middle-class readers would find a mention of how ten servants participated in her efforts to conserve food and cut waste rather mind-blowing even then. "I am proud to be the Husband of the Originator and Founder of the New Household Economy for Millionaires!" was FDR's either angry or teasing or both (depending on your biographer)comment to her. At the time, she simply did not view those ten as people to be considered.

Though it's by no means an attitude that's been completely abandoned.

language hat   Link to this

"the Anglo Saxon word Ceap, which means cattle"

It *can* mean cattle, but that's a secondary sense, irrelevant here. It basically means 'barter, buying and selling, trade'; the derivative cēping 'market(place)' gives Chipping in the town names.

Xjy   Link to this

Cheap
Like German "kaufen" and Swedish "k?pa”. Chipping has a direct equivalent in the town of K?ping in central Sweden. All very early borrowings from the merchant Romans. “caupo” is shopkeeper. Similarly derived very common words are “keep” and “cope”. Let’s hope we can keep coping till things get cheaper, Mr Chapman (market-man).
Placename in N Yorks - Chop Gate, market street (gata in Swedish, Gasse (alley) in German)…

Martin   Link to this

I was brought up in High Wycombe in Buckinghamshire which had formerly been known as Chepping Wycombe, and I was taught that it meant "market", another version of chipping.

Pedro   Link to this

What's in a name?

Cheapside was the principal market or chepe in London; the fish-market was held in Fish Street, the herb-market in Grass (Grace) Church Street, corn-dealers congregated in Cornhill, bakers in Bread Street, and dairymen in Milk Street. Friday Street takes its name from a fish-market opened there on Fridays. Goldsmith's Row, Silver Street, Hosier Street, Cordwainer Street (now Bow Lane), and the Poultry, were inhabited respectively by goldsmiths, silversmiths, stocking-sellers, boot-makers, and poulterers. Garlick Hill was famous for its garlic. In Sermon, or Shermonier's Lane, dwelt the cutters of the metal to be coined into pence. Ave-Maria Lane, Creed Lane, and Paternoster Row, were occupied principally by the writers and publishers of books containing the alphabet, ayes, creeds, and paternosters. Cloth-fair was the resort of drapers and clothiers, and the Haymarket justified its name until 1830, when the market was removed to another quarter. (Book of Days)

Australian Susan   Link to this

Re Xjy
In York, the Scandanavian influence on names is still seen with "gate" in use for Street in many instances such as Petergate, Cowgate and the wonderfully named Whip-ma-whop-ma-gate (nameplate much photographed by tourists). And the also much photographed Shambles was the butchers' street. The name means a place where animals are displayed for sale from Fleshshambles - meat benches. This also survives as Fishamble Street in Dublin, which has nothing to do with fish!

Australian Susan   Link to this

Robert Gertz and servants
Your examples are from the 19th and early 20th centuries when divisions between middle and upper class persons and their servants was at its greatest: an era when people ignored servants: a housemaid in an English country house was expected to turn her back on family members if she was encountered by accident in the main parts of the house - servants had servants' staircases and passages and so on. Dreadful! But in Sam's day, servants were much more part of the household, even being referred to as "family" in some instances.

Xjy   Link to this

servants and family
Well, the Latin word familia meant the lot... nobs,officials, slaves. The Paterfamilias ran the caboodle. With the right of life and death over all of them. And the power to free slaves. So for Sam to call servants "family" probably didn't have the same connotations then as now.

Pedro   Link to this

Another Street.

Will Sam, in the line of business, visit Ropemaker's Alley, where Daniel Defoe died in 1731?

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