Sunday 14 October 1660

(Lord’s day). Early to my Lord’s, in my way meeting with Dr. Fairbrother, who walked with me to my father’s back again, and there we drank my morning draft, my father having gone to church and my mother asleep in bed. Here he caused me to put my hand among a great many honorable hands to a paper or certificate in his behalf.

To White Hall chappell, where one Dr. Crofts made an indifferent sermon, and after it an anthem, ill sung, which made the King laugh. Here I first did see the Princess Royal since she came into England. Here I also observed, how the Duke of York and Mrs. Palmer did talk to one another very wantonly through the hangings that parts the King’s closet and the closet where the ladies sit.

To my Lord’s, where I found my wife, and she and I did dine with my Lady (my Lord dining with my Lord Chamberlain), who did treat my wife with a good deal of respect.

In the evening we went home through the rain by water in a sculler, having borrowed some coats of Mr. Sheply. So home, wet and dirty, and to bed.

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Paul Brewster   Link to this

who did treat my wife with a very great deal of respect
L&M substitute "very great" for "good".

Mary   Link to this

a sculler

A waterman rowing a scull, i.e. a small river-boat rowed by a single man with one pair of oars.

In theory, watermen were not allowed to ply for hire on The Lord's Day, but this chap must have decided that it was worth his while to bend the rules on a wet Sunday in autumn.

Paul Brewster   Link to this

sculling on a Sunday
This issue came up back on July 22, 1660, "It was the first time that ever I went by water on the Lord's day.” On that date L&M supplied the following footnote: 'Because of his official position Pepys was not subject to the general rules against Sunday hire.' I don’t think we ever traced a specific source for the exemption.

http://www.pepysdiary.com/diary/1660/07/22/

vincent   Link to this

"skulling" Just goes to prove that Olde adage "it's not wot yer know, but who yer know , in order to get to know who, always have some of the ever ready."
All rules can be broken by the priveledged, 'tis why one wants to become priveledged.

Nigel Pond   Link to this

For more on the Thames Watermen, see the entry at:

http://www.taxi-l.org/anect.htm

chris Bailey   Link to this

Sam takes a morning(?) draft before church. What would that consist of? Ale, or something stronger. Also what is the nature of the closets in the chapel?

Paul Brewster   Link to this

closet
per the OED:
2. a. The private apartment of a monarch or potentate; the private council-chamber; a room in a palace used by the sovereign for private or household devotions. Obs. exc. Hist. Clerk of the Closet: ... A pew in the chapel of a castle occupied by the lord and his family, or in a Chapel Royal by the Royal family. Obs.
c1340 Gaw. & Gr. Knt. ... Chaplaynez to be chapeles chosen be gate be lorde loutes berto, & be lady als, In-to a comly closet coyntly ho entrez. 1530 Palsgr. … Closet, chapelle. 1549 Latimer Serm. bef. Edw. … Shall any of his sworne chapelins? No. Thei bee of the clausset and kepe close such matters. 1565 Act 8 Eliz. … Common Prayer in Churches, Chapels, Closets and Oratories. 1565 J. Jewel Def. Apol. … That S. Peter sitteth with him [the Pope] in Consistory, or in Clauset, discussing of Cases. 1625 Meade in Ellis Orig. Lett. … If the Queens Closet where they now say masse were not large enough, let them have it in the Great Chamber. 1769 Junius Lett. … You have now a strength sufficient to command the closet. 1848 Macaulay Hist. Eng. … James called into his closet Arnold Van Citters and Everard Van Dykvelt. 1868 Freeman Norm. Conq. … Dealings in the royal closet would be likely to be known to a courtier and royal chaplain.

vincent   Link to this

From which we get Water Closet(W.C.)Slightly less space than Charlies; He did so need it for his Hobbies.
Then the Expression coming out of the Closet, and one is closetted with ( wench) then in the close ....so on so on.

JonTom Kittredge   Link to this

Closets in Church
I recently read a description of the private chapel of a Victorian country house: "the family pew was hung with red velvet curtains and looked like an opera box." I imagine these "closets" in the Whitehall Palace chapel as being something like that, taking into account a two century difference in time.

Nix   Link to this

The King's closet --

was a study or private office adjacent to his bedchamber. I have the sense that this is very much larger than what we now would envision as a family pew or an opera box.

http://www.okima.com/tour/whitehall.html

Is anyone familiar enough with Whitehall Palace to know whether there would have been a separate "closet" in the Whitehall chapel, or did the chapel open off the closet-by-the-bedroom?

For a description and picture of the king's closet at Hampton court, go to:

http://www.hrp.org.uk/webcode/content.asp?ID=41...

Peter   Link to this

Presumably the document that Dr Fairbrother asks Sam to sign is not too contentious. We have seen Sam do some fancy footwork in the past to avoid signing petitions in favour of certain people. Presumably the list of "many honourable hands" reassures him here. If he hadn't seen that list I suppose it would have been a case of: "sorry, I don't seem to have my quill on me".....
Speaking of which, Sam does a lot of work on the hoof (paying off ships, signing documents etc). He presumably has to carry writing materials with him, the tools of his trade as it were. Does anybody know how this was done? Some quills, a bottle of ink etc. in a natty little box, perhaps?

Kevin Peter   Link to this

"...after it an anthem, ill sung, which made the King laugh."

I suppose when you're the King, you don't have to worry too much about being polite.

Paul Brewster   Link to this

King's Closet
According to the L&M Companion: It was "in a gallery [of the chapel]. Curtains separated the King from the ladies of the bedchamber who sat at either side." The map of Whitehall Palace shown in the same book shows the King's Closet "in the ante-chapel" portion of the Chapel. It is quite a distance from the residential sections of the sprawling complex.

Terry Foreman   Link to this

"...how the Duke of York and Mrs. Palmer did talk to one another very wantonly through the hangings that parts the King’s closet and the closet where the ladies sit." SPOILER: she's not interested in HIM, but in his older brother!

Bill   Link to this

CLOSET. [from close.]
1. A small room of privacy and retirement. Wotton.
2. A private reposítory of curiosities. Dryden.
---A Dictionary Of The English Language. Samuel Johnson, 1756.

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