Saturday 5 May 1660

All the morning very busy writing letters to London, and a packet to Mr. Downing, to acquaint him with what had been done lately in the fleet. And this I did by my Lord’s command, who, I thank him, did of himself think of doing it, to do me a kindness, for he writ a letter himself to him, thanking him for his kindness to me.

All the afternoon at ninepins, at night after supper good musique, my Lord, Mr. North, I and W. Howe. After that to bed.

This evening came Dr. Clarges to Deal, going to the King; where the towns-people strewed the streets with herbes against his coming, for joy of his going. Never was there so general a content as there is now. I cannot but remember that our parson did, in his prayer to-night, pray for the long life and happiness of our King and dread Soveraign, that may last as long as the sun and moon endureth.

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Paul Brewster   Link to this

I was puzzled by the act of strewing the streets with herbes until I looked in the OED and found this reference ...
1782 S. Pegge Cur. Misc. 45 At Coronations the ground is strewed with flowers by a person ... called the Herbstrewer.

Nix   Link to this

Consider what the condition of the streets would have been BEFORE laying down a layer of flowers.

ellen   Link to this

What does/did dread Sovereign mean? Or did Sam know what was coming?

john s.   Link to this

Ellen..."dread Lord/Sovereign" was common usage for the reigning monarch; just another appelation to indicate who was running the show. Derived from old
usage when the monarch held the power of
life and death over his/her subjects.

Naomi   Link to this

One definition of dread in the OED is 'held in awe; awful; revered'. The example given from Middle English (no date) is 'Most Dredde Soverayne Lord'.

Hhomeboy   Link to this

(the) dread...

When used as it is here by Pepys, it is a standard, sentimental honorific and means an office, title, icon or person that is revered or held in universal reverence...after the Jacobite rebellions have run their course, 'dread' as an honorific for a royal is archaic...

By the 1800's dread is more frequently invoked re: something or 'someone' nasty as in the shuddering caused by a ghostly apparition or death's head (see a Christmas Carol)...

(The nastyboy of Britlit Marty Amis' latest--and dreadful--book about Stalin is titled 'Koba the Dread'....obviously Kingsley's lad had spent too much time bending elbows with ex-Trotskyite Hitch, who then denounced him for this shallow tome, which smacks atavistically of Amis p

chip   Link to this

Has anyone noticed that when Pepys has a long entry, for example yesterday, he seems to "blog" into the diary during the day? Today's shorter entry appears to have been written close to bed, with just an after thought. What do the originals of these resemble?

vincent   Link to this

"awe and dread" along with respect, bow, and scrape, curtsy,"Yes sir 3 bags full sir " . even before the banning of cane ,fagging and other methods of enforcing respect. One must tremble before ones betters. this be 20th century too "...wolfe from (c.hill p32 the world turned Upside down (17th)) does quote "..we must be careful the supreme power fall not into the people's hands .." another instance of P29 TWTUD "Oatmaker on trial before the High Commission in April 1630, said that he would never take off his hat to Bishops. 'But you will to Privy Councilors,' he was urged. 'Then as you are Privy Councilllors,' quoth he " I put off my hat; but as you are rags of beast, lo! I put it on again .' ref to ed. R.F. Williams, Court and Times of Charles l (1848)p71. This is one reason " awe" has opposite meanings the Psalm one, peasant another.

j a gioia   Link to this

dread

the word is still a form of respect in west indian usage. a rastafarian's dreadlocks are a reflection of the awe inspired by jah, the creator.

helena murphy   Link to this

At his trial Charles Stuart was also charged with having overthrown the rights and liberties of the people. He however got the better of his judges, and put his finger on the heart of the nation's dilemma when he said, "It is not my case alone; it is the freedom and liberty of the people of England;and do you pretend what you will, I stand more for their liberties; for,if power without law may make laws, may alter the fundamental laws of the Kingdom, I do not know what subject he is in England that can be sure of his life, or anything he calls his own."
Charles was right as there was no legal precedent or constitutional basis for his trial. During the trial he refused to recognise the court's authority or to make a plea.

vincent   Link to this

"Dread" :the expression "Dreadful" or "Aweful" weather does invoke Hate and Respect for nature's power.

mw   Link to this

Chip an interesting observation. I will watch to see if I can pick that pattern. What does the orginal show?
Of interest to me is what Mr Pepys is recording and what that record represents, to him.
For example many musical pursuits, much drinking and socialising but little weather or little food what he is reading? or looking at, landscape architecture? to name others vistas.

vincent   Link to this

"dread" Dread Sovereign:(as opening for a letter to Charles ll 1660 )
It is without doubt that your Sacred Majesty hath been informed of the loyal services my husband Sir David Kirke did (as his duty) to your royal father of ...............................But, as I have been to your royal father, so I remain,

To your Sacred Majesty's
Most humble subject

and servant,
[signed] Sara Kirke
http://www.heritage.nf.ca/avalon/history/docume...

Sasha Clarkson   Link to this

Think of "Dread" as magisterially inspiring both awe and fear. "Ivan the Dread" is generally regarded by Russophiles to be a far better translation of 'Ivan Grozny', than "Ivan the Terrible".

In the English context, imagine the dread sight of an Old Bailey judge in full regalia wearing the black cap as a sign of his authority to impose the death sentence.

Bill   Link to this

dread (adj.) revered, deeply honoured, held in awe. Shakespeare used "dread" in this sense over 20 times.

Rosencrantz to Claudius and Gertude: "your dread pleasures"

Robert Watson   Link to this

Re: "Ivan the Terrible", or "Ivan the Dread" -- "Terrible" didn't have its modern meaning back then, either.

A few quotations from the *Authorised Version* of the Bible (1611):

Psalm 66 verse 3---> "Say unto God, How terrible art thou in thy works! through the greatness of thy power shall thine enemies submit themselves unto thee."

Psalm 99 verse3---> "Let them praise thy great and terrible name; for it is holy."

Maybe "Ivan the Terrible" is a perfectly good translation.

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