Monday 11 March 1666/67

Up, and with my cold still upon me and hoarseness, but I was forced to rise and to the office, where all the morning busy, and among other things Sir W. Warren come to me, to whom of late I have been very strange, partly from my indifference how more than heretofore to get money, but most from my finding that he is become great with my Lord Bruncker, and so I dare not trust him as I used to do, for I will not be inward with him that is open to another. By and by comes Sir H. Cholmly to me about Tangier business, and then talking of news he tells me how yesterday the King did publiquely talk of the King of France’s dealing with all the Princes of Christendome. As to the States of Holland, he [the King of France] hath advised them, on good grounds, to refuse to treat with us at the Hague, because of having opportunity of spies, by reason of our interest in the House of Orange; and then, it being a town in one particular province, it would not be fit to have it, but in a town wherein the provinces have equal interest, as at Mastricht, and other places named. That he advises them to offer no terms, nor accept of any, without his privity and consent, according to agreement; and tells them, if not so, he hath in his power to be even with them, the King of England being come to offer him any terms he pleases; and that my Lord St. Albans is now at Paris, Plenipotentiary, to make what peace he pleases; and so he can make it, and exclude them, the Dutch, if he sees fit. A copy of this letter of the King of France’s the Spanish Ambassador here gets, and comes and tells all to our King; which our King denies, and says the King of France only uses his power of saying anything. At the same time, the King of France writes to the Emperor, that he is resolved to do all things to express affection to the Emperor, having it now in his power to make what peace he pleases between the King of England and him, and the States of the United Provinces; and, therefore, that he would not have him to concern himself in a friendship with us; and assures him that, on that regard, he will not offer anything to his disturbance, in his interest in Flanders, or elsewhere. He writes, at the same time, to Spayne, to tell him that he wonders to hear of a league almost ended between the Crown of Spayne and England, by my Lord Sandwich, and all without his privity, while he was making a peace upon what terms he pleased with England: that he is a great lover of the Crown of Spayne, and would take the King and his affairs, during his minority, into his protection, nor would offer to set his foot in Flanders, or any where else, to disturb him; and, therefore, would not have him to trouble himself to make peace with any body; only he hath a desire to offer an exchange, which he thinks may be of moment to both sides: that is, that he [France] will enstate the King of Spayne in the kingdom of Portugall, and he and the Dutch will put him into possession of Lisbon; and, that being done, he [France] may have Flanders: and this, they say; do mightily take in Spayne, which is sensible of the fruitless expence Flanders, so far off, gives them; and how much better it would be for them to be master of Portugall; and the King of France offers, for security herein, that the King of England shall be bond for him, and that he will countersecure the King of England with Amsterdam; and, it seems, hath assured our King, that if he will make a league with him, he will make a peace exclusive to the Hollander. These things are almost romantique, but yet true, as Sir H. Cholmly tells me the King himself did relate it all yesterday; and it seems as if the King of France did think other princes fit for nothing but to make sport for him: but simple princes they are, that are forced to suffer this from him. So at noon with Sir W. Pen by coach to the Sun in Leadenhall Streete, where Sir R. Ford, Sir W. Batten, and Commissioner Taylor (whose feast it was) were, and we dined and had a very good dinner. Among other discourses Sir R. Ford did tell me that he do verily believe that the city will in few years be built again in all the greatest streets, and answered the objections I did give to it. Here we had the proclamation this day come out against the Duke of Buckingham, commanding him to come in to one of the Secretaries, or to the Lieutenant of the Tower. A silly, vain man to bring himself to this: and there be many hard circumstances in the proclamation of the causes of this proceeding of the King’s, which speak great displeasure of the King’s, and crimes of his. Then to discourse of the business of the day, that is, to see Commissioner Taylor’s accounts for his ship he built, The Loyall London, and it is pretty to see how dully this old fellow makes his demands, and yet plaguy wise sayings will come from the man sometimes, and also how Sir R. Ford and [Sir] W. Batten did with seeming reliance advise him what to do, and how to come prepared to answer objections to the Common Council. Thence away to the office, where late busy, and then home to supper, mightily pleased with my wife’s trill, and so to bed. This night Mr. Carcasse did come to me again to desire favour, and that I would mediate that he might be restored, but I did give him no kind answer at all, but was very angry, and I confess a good deal of it from my Lord Bruncker’s simplicity and passion.

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Terry Foreman   Link to this

Arlington to Sandwich
Written from: Whitehall
Date: 11 March 1667

Upon consideration of Lord Sandwich's letters of the 5th and 13th of February, the King has determined that the Treaty of Portugal shall be pressed conditionally; that of Commerce positively. To the latter, a private article should be added, engaging the contracting parties not to assist one another's enemies. The Portugal treaty will be recommended to that Court from hence. Adds that "the Baron d'Isola is troubled ... at Spain's refusal of the title of King to Portugal."

http://www.bodley.ox.ac.uk/dept/scwmss/projects...

Terry Foreman   Link to this

Portuguese Restoration War and its end

"By 1662, Spain had committed itself to a major effort to end the rebellion. John of Austria the Younger, Philip IV's illegitimate son, led 14,000 men into Alentejo, and, the following year, they succeeded in taking Évora, the major city of the region. The Portuguese, under António Luís de Meneses, 1st Marquess of Marialva and the German soldier of fortune, Friedrich Hermann von Schönberg, the duke of Schomberg, who had been contracted, along with other foreign officers, to bolster the leadership of Portuguese forces, were able to turn the tide. They defeated the Spanish in a major engagement at Ameixial on 8 June 1663, and this forced John of Austria to abandon Évora and retreat across the border.

"The Portuguese now had some 30,000 troops in the Alentejo-Extremadura theater, but they could not draw the Spanish into a major engagement until June 1665, when a new Spanish commander, the marquis of Caracena, took over Vila Viçosa with about 23,000 men, including recruits from Germany and Italy. The Portuguese relief column under António Luís de Meneses and Schomberg met them at Montes Claros on 17 June 1665. The Portuguese infantry and gun emplacements broke the Spanish cavalry, and the Spanish force lost over 10,000 men, including casualties and prisoners. Shortly thereafter, the Portuguese retook Vila Viçosa. These were the last major engagements of the war.

"Both sides returned to skirmishing campaigns. Portugal, with the intercession of its English ally, had sought a truce, but after the Portuguese victory at Montes Claros and with the signing of a Franco-Portuguese treaty in 1667, Spain finally agreed to recognize Portugal's independence on 13 February 1668." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portuguese_Restora...

cape henry   Link to this

I must say, TF, you never cease to amaze and enlighten.
Thanks.

cum salis grano   Link to this

Cape: I dothe agree, Mr Foreman and Mr Robinson dothe add such wonderful material so that we can have insight to living in the City of post Cromwell.

Robert Gertz   Link to this

"...partly from my indifference how more than heretofore to get money..."

Cough, cough...Excuse me?

Carl in Boston   Link to this

it seems as if the King of France did think other princes fit for nothing but to make sport for him: but simple princes they are, that are forced to suffer this from him.
Such high and imposing expressions on matters of great pitch and moment. I say, to be a fly on the wall at this time. Yay, Sam. Nowadays secretaries and salesmen on the road have Blackberries and are pestered day and night over matters of nothing.

arby   Link to this

"Plaguy"? A search gets me "annoying", but that doesn't seem to work in this context.
My thanks too for all the illumination, Terry and all. I needed it today, a particularly thick entry for my thick skull. Thanks, rb

cum salis grano   Link to this

I'd had guess without checking, that he was annoying like a damn gnat
"...and yet plaguy wise sayings will come from the man sometimes, ..."

OED:


plaguey, adj. and adv. A. adj.
Forms: 15-16 plagie, 15-16 plaguie, 15-16 plagy, 15- plaguy, 16- plaguey.
1. Now arch. and rare.

a. Of the nature of or relating to bubonic plague or any other plague-like disease; pestiferous, pestilential, pernicious. Also fig.
1574..
1653 DUCHESS OF NEWCASTLE Poems & Fancies 62 Corrupts me, makes me full of plaguy soares, which Putrefaction on mens Bodies poures.
1668 DUCHESS OF NEWCASTLE Grounds Nat. Philos. X. ii. 132-3 And whereas other sorts of Gangren's begin outwardly, and pierce inwardly; the Plaguy Gangrene begins inwardly, and pierces outwardly.

b. That affects like a plague; that causes severe affliction, damage, or distress, or is seen as a punishment or judgement. Obs.
1595.....
1663 S. BUTLER Hudibras I. iii. 163 What plaguy mischiefs and mishaps Do dog him still. 1690
2. In weakened use: troublesome, annoying, vexatious, tiresome, disagreeable; (colloq., as an intensifier) confounded, cursed, damnable, excessive, inordinate.
1594

c. Infected or afflicted with the plague; plague-stricken.

1603 T. DEKKER Wonderfull Yeare sig. E4v, Let vs see what doings the Sexton of Stepney hath: whose ware-houses being all full of dead commodities, sauing one: that one he left open a whole night..knowing ye theeues this yeare were too honest to break into such cellers. Besides those that were left there, had such plaguy pates, that none durst meddle with them for their liues.
604 T. WRIGHT Passions of Minde (new ed.) IV. ii. §7. 139 Many physitians will scarce aduenture to deale with plaguie patients.

1613 T. JACKSON Eternall Truth Scriptures II. vii. §4 To make no question whether he should meete his friend in a plaguie house.
1686 J. GOAD Astro-meteorologica III. i. 389 New Diseases..which have broke out..into this Plaguy Age.

1696 J. PECHEY tr. T. Sydenham Whole Wks. II. ii. 66 The reception of the Infection, either immediately by accompanying some plaguey person, or mediately transmitted by a Fomes from some other place.

2. In weakened use: troublesome, annoying, vexatious, tiresome, disagreeable; (colloq., as an intensifier) confounded, cursed, damnable, excessive, inordinate.

. 1681 A. BEHN 2nd Pt. Rover I. i. 7 Nay, Nay, Ned, the World knows I am a plaguy fellow at your secrets.

1694 P. A. MOTTEUX tr. Rabelais Wks. IV. lxiv. 254 Women that have a plaguy deal of Religion.

language hat   Link to this

In other words, Sam is using it simply as an intensifier, as we might say "damned wise."

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