Thursday 3 January 1666/67

Up, and to the office, where we sat all the morning. At noon by invitation to dinner to Sir W. Pen’s, where my Lord Bruncker, Sir W. Batten, and his lady, myself, and wife, Sir J. Minnes, and Mr. Turner and his wife. Indifferent merry, to which I contributed the most, but a mean dinner, and in a mean manner. In the evening a little to the office, and then to them, where I found them at cards, myself very ill with a cold (the frost continuing hard), so eat but little at supper, but very merry, and late home to bed, not much pleased with the manner of our entertainment, though to myself more civil than to any. This day, I hear, hath been a conference between the two Houses about the Bill for examining Accounts, wherein the House of Lords their proceedings in petitioning the King for doing it by Commission is, in great heat, voted by the Commons, after the conference, unparliamentary. The issue whereof, God knows.

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Terry Foreman   Link to this

Anglesey to Ormond
Written from: London
Date: 3 January 1667

Has acquainted the Lord Chancellor with the receipt, from the Duke, of the certiorari for subsidies, which accompanied His Grace's letter of December 27.

Troops have been sent to Portsmouth and elsewhere, in consequence of the advices from France, mentioned in the writer's letter of January 1st, although no further intelligence, as to the French preparations, has been received.

Believes that the differences between the two Houses, on certain details of the Cattle-Bill, will have the effect of putting an end to that Bill for the current session.

http://www.bodley.ox.ac.uk/dept/scwmss/projects...

CGS   Link to this

interesting how Samuell describes the ex-girl friend of each of male diners.

Tony Eldridge   Link to this

What's the point you are making CGS?
He describes the knight's wife as his Lady because that's her title. Mr Pepys and Mr Turner have wives, like most of us.

Mary   Link to this

The Royal Society.

For all those who can listen (either direct or via the BBC website - www.bbc.co.uk and follow the links) BBC Radio4 is broadcasting 4 programmes this week on the origins and history of the Royal Society at 0900h GMT.

The first programme was broadcast this morning, and will be available on the BBC's "Listen Again" facility shortly.

Robert Gertz   Link to this

What seems rather interesting is that Bruncker didn't bring Abigail. Not socially acceptable to bring along the "lady of the house" unmarried to such a "family office" party?

Mary   Link to this

The Royal Society - repeat.

The programmes will be repeated in the evenings at 21.30 GMT. They form part of the "In Our Time" series of broadcasts.

CGS   Link to this

'What’s the point you are making CGS?'

Lady is not necessary a wife, but a wife is married woman.

OED:

lady some meanings: 15 to pick from
lady
I. Senses referring to a woman.

1. a. The female head of a household; a woman who has authority over servants, attendants, or slaves (now chiefly arch. or hist.). Cf. the lady of the house n. at Phrases 1a(a).

b. A woman who rules over subjects, a queen; a woman to whom obedience or feudal homage is due. Now rare except in lady of the manor n. at Phrases 1a(b).

d. A woman who is the object of (esp. chivalrous) love or devotion. Cf. LADY-LOVE n. 1. Now chiefly hist. or poet.

e. A woman in attendance on a queen, a lady-in-waiting.

.......
7. A wife, a consort. In later use colloq.: a girlfriend.

Fern   Link to this

A modern take on "lady":
A friend of mine refers to her son's long-term unmarried partner as his lady. She says it's the only suitable word. "Wife" she is not; "woman" is derogatory; "partner" leaves people uncertain if he's gay or straight.

Robert Gertz   Link to this

"...though to myself more civil than to any."

"But civil, count. Civil as an orange. And something of that jealous complexion."

-Much Ado About Nothing.

jean-paul   Link to this

"Indifferent merry"
OED
indifferent, a.1 (n. and adv.)
†C.C adv. = indifferently adv. 5. Obs. (Very common c 1600–1730.)

indifferently
5.5 To some extent, in some degree (as intermediate between very or very much and not at all); moderately, tolerably, fairly; esp. indifferently well, pretty well. (Cf. indifferent adv.) Now rare.

Mary   Link to this

only modified rapture.

Derrick   Link to this

"House of Lords their proceedings" is a use of the his-genitive which is a bit unusual because it uses the plural "their." His-genitive forms usually used "his," as in "for Jesus Christ his sake," but could also use "her" or "their." His-genitives were I think pretty much archaic by the eighteenth century.

language hat   Link to this

Just in case anyone is confused: "his-genitives" were unhistorical misinterpretations of the English genitive, which comes direct from the Old English genitive and is not a reduced "his."

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