Friday 28 October 1664

Slept ill all night, having got a very great cold the other day at Woolwich in [my] head, which makes me full of snot. Up in the morning, and my tailor brings me home my fine, new, coloured cloth suit, my cloake lined with plush, as good a suit as ever I wore in my life, and mighty neat, to my great content. To my office, and there all the morning. At noon to Nellson’s, and there bought 20 pieces more of Bewpers, and hope to go on with him to a contract. Thence to the ‘Change a little, and thence home with Luellin to dinner, where Mr. Deane met me by appointment, and after dinner he and I up to my chamber, and there hard at discourse, and advising him what to do in his business at Harwich, and then to discourse of our old business of ships and taking new rules of him to my great pleasure, and he being gone I to my office a little, and then to see Sir W. Batten, who is sick of a greater cold than I, and thither comes to me Mr. Holliard, and into the chamber to me, and, poor man (beyond all I ever saw of him), was a little drunk, and there sat talking and finding acquaintance with Sir W. Batten and my Lady by relations on both sides, that there we staid very long. At last broke up, and he home much overcome with drink, but well enough to get well home. So I home to supper and to bed.

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MissAnn   Link to this

Sounds like a typical Friday night - at least one bloke turns up having already had a few drinks elsewhere, takes over the conversation for far too long, then, once he's drunk a whole lot more (which he no doubt didn't bring with him), wanders off home in his wobbly boots. I wonder how he felt on Saturday morning ...

Nelson's "bewpers" (or bunting) - how much of this stuff will Sam need? And, is it only used for celebration days? Or, is it used on the ships for something other than celebrations? It seems a little strange to me that he may wish to put Nelson on a contract for the stuff.

My dear friends on this site who are far better educated than I will no doubt know the importance of bunting at this time in history.

John Aislabie   Link to this

I am assuming that these coloured pieces of cloth go to toward Naval Signals flags, of which Sam will need to procure a great deal as fleets get larger and more complex.
The flag system at this time is not standardised but it will be soon.

Robert Gertz   Link to this

"Up in the morning, and my tailor brings me home my fine, new, coloured cloth suit, my cloake lined with plush, as good a suit as ever I wore in my life, and mighty neat, to my great content."

"Clean shirt, new shoes
And I sure know where I am goin to.
Plush suit, periwig,
For the boys' chuckles I dont need to give a fig.
The victualers still come runnin just as fast as they can...

Coz every merchant's crazy bout a sharp dressed King's man."

"So...Whatdaya, think, Bess?" Sam spins round for his lady. Periwig locks rising...

"Nice. Very nice. Except..."

Hmmn...?

"Silken hose, straighten that wig,
Sam aint missin a single thing.
Lace cuffs, stick pin,
When he steps out he gonna do you in.
Now Bagwell'll come runnin just as fast as she can...

Coz every poor carpenter's wife's knows to target a sharp dressed King's man."

"What?"

"Who are those men with the beards, singing?"

Chorus of men in long beards and hats currently waving fingers at Sam with shrewd looks, nod to Bess...

"Not really sure...Unthankes provided them? Entourage service, a necessity for a coming man, he said..." Sam shrugs.

"Well, I am not feeding them. Say...Who is this 'Bagwell'? Wait. Carpenter's wife?! Hey....!"

Ummn...

"She's got nails...And she knows how to use them..." the boys begin a new chorus. "Sam's got legs and he better use 'em..."

"That girl is all right..." they nod and wave fingers at the vanishing, furious Bess pursing Sam in his finery...

Robert Gertz   Link to this

"...thither comes to me Mr. Holliard, and into the chamber to me, and, poor man (beyond all I ever saw of him), was a little drunk..."

"What's with Holliard?" Sam hisses to the Battens as poor Mr. H. stumbles off into the night. "That's not the man who saved my life."

"You are not going to take those pills he left." Lady Batten firmly to Sir Will, who nods...Indeed not.

"Poor fellow hasn't been able to keep his surgical patients alive since that great year when he saved you." Sir Will notes to Pepys. "Strange thing. Same technique, same instruments as he used then. But every patient develops terrible fever and pus and dies on him now. He's just about given up surgery."

Martin   Link to this

Bewpers
Via Google Books, from "The Language of Sailing" by Richard Mayne:
beaupers, bewpars, or bewpers, a fabric or bunting used for flags. Almost certainly a corruption of the name of the French textile town, Beaupréau, Maine-et-Loire. First attested in 1592 in Wills and Inventories, II, 211.

I think the Wheatley footnote stating that bewpers is just the old name for bunting is a bit misleading -- as John Aislabie notes above, this is not decorative bunting but material for signal flags. According the Phil Nelson's online Dictionary of Vexillology (crwflags.com), in the British Navy a "bunting tosser" was the nickname for a sailor in charge of hoisting signal flags (no date specified).

JWB   Link to this

"vexillology"
For a copyrighted definition of bunting GOTO:
http://www.nava.org/Flag%20Information/dictionary/

Terry F   Link to this

"Mr. Deane[s]...business at Harwich"

L&M note that Deane was recently (10 Oct.) made Master-Shipwright there, and needed to talk with Pepys, his benefactor, about the stores there and raises for the shipyard staff.

Australian Susan   Link to this

"Coloured" here probably means red. So quite a showy outfit!

Bradford   Link to this

"Slept ill all night, having got a very great cold the other day at Woolwich in [my] head, which makes me full of snot."

An indisputable fact of human health, though I don't think even Adrian Mole thought to put it in his [italic] diary.

cgs   Link to this

snot: "....which makes me full of snot...."
1. The snuff of a candle; the burnt part of a candle-wick. Now north. dial.
1388 WYCLIF

2. The mucus of the nose. Now dial. or vulgar.
Common in the 17th cent.
c1425

3. dial. and slang. Applied to persons as a term of contempt or opprobrium.
[1607

1648 HEXHAM II, Het Snot-gat, the Snot-hole, or Nostrill.
1685 Poor Robin's Almanack Cvijb, Three Kisses, four Busses, and five licks under the Snot gall.

C.J.Darby   Link to this

I hope there were buttons on the sleeves of Sams new coat.Their origional purpose, I believe, was to stop people wiping their nose on the sleeve.

cgs   Link to this

button
[a. OF. boton (mod.F. bouton) bud, knob, button; a common Romanic word = Pr., Sp. boton, Pg. botão, It. bottone:late L. *bott{omac}n-em, app. connected with late L. *bottare, buttare, to thrust, put forth (whence OF. boter, F. bouter, Sp. botar, It. bottare); the ultimate etymology is commonly supposed to be Teutonic; for conjectures see Diez, Scheler, Littré.
Sense 2 ‘bud’ appears to be the original sense in Romanic, but we have no instance of it in Eng. before 16th c., exc. as used (with peculiar spelling) in the Romaunt of the Rose.]

Generally. A small knob or stud attached to any object for use or ornament. spec.

1. a. A knob or stud of metal or other material sewn by a shank or neck to articles of dress, usually for the purpose of fastening one part of the dress to another by passing through a button-hole, but often merely for ornament: in process of use, the name has passed from the connotation of the shape to that of the purpose, and been extended to all appliances of the kind, a common type being a disc, quite flat, or slightly convex or concave, of metal, bone, glass, mother of pearl, paste, etc., perforated or otherwise adapted to be sewn on by its central part. (This specific application is now regarded as the primary sense, all the other meanings, whatever their historical origin, being understood as merely transf.)
c1340

1605 SHAKES. Lear V. iii. 309 Pray you vndo this Button.
1647 Husbandman's Plea agst. Tithes 75 It hath no buttons, nor hooks upon it.

Wim van der Meij   Link to this

- snot - The word is the same in Dutch nowadays. Probably an old germanic word.

cgs   Link to this

not from the beginning:
OED
ME. snotte or snot (cf. OE. ...esnot), = Fris. snotte, snot,
MDu. snotte (Du. snot), MLG. (and LG.) snotte, snot (hence Da. snot, snaat, snøt),

in sense 2; cf. also LG. snut, MHG. snuz (G. dial. schnutz).
The stem is related by ablaut to that of SNITE v.]

Australian Susan   Link to this

Old Frisian was the first origin of English, according to Melvyn Bragge, so if snot derives from that - it's a very old word indeed! (and will have many links with Flemish and Dutch.

language hat   Link to this

"Old Frisian was the first origin of English"

No, Old Frisian and Old English are very close relatives in the Germanic family, both of them descended from Proto-Germanic. There is no "first origin of English" except the original language of mankind, whatever and whenever that was, but the oldest we can trace it back is (reconstructed) Proto-Indo-European.

Australian Susan   Link to this

Sorry, but that is what Melvyn Bragge says in his book and TV show about the origins of English. What he means, I think, is that words we still use all have origins; and the earliest language living English words can still be traced back to is Old Frisian. See http://www.amazon.com/Adventure-English-Biograp...
My entry was sloppy and I didn't mean to imply that the Frisians invented what became the English language.
Going back to the original word: I have a query: Does anyone know why midshipmen were called "snotties" ? And were they so in our Sam's time?

James Bennewith   Link to this

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language hat   Link to this

Lord Bragg is a novelist and TV presenter, not a language expert. I presume he learned that Frisian was the closest relative to English in the Germanic family and overextrapolated. English words cannot be "traced back to Old Frisian," they simply have close cognates in Frisian. (I'm not going into all this to quarrel with you, it's just part of my lifelong project of trying to increase linguistic understanding in a world that overwhelmingly neglects to take linguistics courses!)

language hat   Link to this

snotty = midshipman

The oldest OED citation is from 1903 (from Farmer & Henley's slang dictionary), so no, it doesn't go back to Pepys' day.

cgs   Link to this

from RNC itself:"Midshipmen"
The oldest slang name for a Midshipman, REEFER, has died out but SNOTTY remains; this name is said to have originated, about 1870, from the story that the three buttons on the cuffs of Midshipmen's round jackets were put there to prevent the lads from wiping their noses on their sleeves. This story cannot actually be true because buttons on the cuffs of all naval officers' jackets were uniform long before this period; in fact, buttons were actually being removed from the cuffs of working jackets at about this time.

The Midshipman is the last old-time gunroom officer to retain his original rank-title - clerks, surgeon's mates, masters's mates, etc., have all disappeared.

Midshipmen have been defined within the Service as "the lowest form of life" and as "a medium of abuse between officers of unequal seniority". Officers usually refer to Midshipmen as SNOTTIES: ratings - and many civilians - as MIDDIES: Midshipmen frequently refer to themselves as MIDS.

An excellent book on this subject is "Young Gentlemen" by CF Walker (1938). Under the new scheme of training for young officers announced by the First Lord in June, 1954, Midshipmen will not serve afloat with the fleet after 1957. http://www.royal-navy.mod.uk/server/show/nav.3817

'many an old Tar would utter under ones breath, never out loud " not yet wet behind the ears and 'e be telling us 'ow to suck eggs the ......."
as some were under 16.

GrahamT   Link to this

Re: "Lord Bragg is a novelist and TV presenter, not a language expert." LH, you damn the man with faint praise. True, he is both of those, but he is also the author of "The Routes of English (2001)" and "The Adventure of English: The Biography of a Language (2003)", a Fellow of The Royal Society of Literature, chairperson of the Arts Council Literature Panel, President of the National Campaign for the Arts (since 1986) and Chancellor of Leeds University. The television programmes he presents are serious arts and history programmes, not Wheel of Fortune.
He is an expert in the history of language, as well as a successful writer of both fiction and non-fiction. His biography is public. ( http://www.contemporarywriters.com/authors/?p=a... )

Michael Robinson   Link to this

"...you damn the man with faint praise."

Hardly: Melvin Bragg's brief c.v. linked to above documents much activity as TV presenter, with accompanying 'booktoids' ['odoriferous waste in book form' in this instance meretricious texts manufactured from TV scripts marketed using the spurious glamor and authority of mass visual dissemination to steal additional money, time and energy from the the viewer, the ur-example, Ken Clarke's Civilization]', and published novels -- and many honorifics; but the substance of the document vindicates Language Hat's observation!

language hat   Link to this

And just to be clear, even if he were a credentialed "expert in the history of language," he would still be wrong. But yeah, he's not. Getting books published makes you an author, not an expert.

Pedro   Link to this

On the 28th of October,

After learning of Holmes' capture of New Amsterdam, Charles II boldly threw aside his reserve and declared that the taking of Cape Corse, as well as of New Amsterdam, "was done with his knowledge & by his order as being a business wch properly belonged to the English, that the ground was theirs & that they had also built upon the same, that the same was afterwards taken from the English by the Netherlands West India Compa, & ... that the English will justify & demonstrate their right to all this." If Holmes' actions in Guinea have so far seemed very extraordinary, they can hardly be so regarded any longer in view of the light which the king himself threw over the whole situation in this remarkable statement.

The Journal of Negro History, Volume 4, 1919
by Various Authors

(Again here Holmes is wrongly credited with the capture of New Amsterdam)

cgs   Link to this

Holmes, easy to blame, history needs large doses of a little pinch of salt.
peter.

Michael Robinson   Link to this

Issued today ...

[His Majesties declaration for encouragement of seamen and mariners employed in the present service.]
At the court at Whitehall, the 28th of October, 1664. Present the kings most excellent Majesty. His royal highness the Duke of York. Lord Chancellor. Lord Treasurer. Duke of Albemarle. Duke of Ormond. Lord Chamberlain. Earl of Anglesey. Earl of Lauderdail. Earl of Middleton. Lord Bishop of London. Lord Ashely. Mr. Vice-Chamberlain. Mr. Secretary Morice. Mr. Secretary Bennet. Mr. Chancellor of the Dutchy. Sir Edward Nicholas. It was this day ordered (His Majestie present in Council) that his Majesties declaration, for incouragement of sea-men and mariners imployed in the present service, be forthwith printed by his Majesties printer, &c. Richard Browne.
London : printed by John Bill and Christopher Barker, printers to the Kings most Excellent Majesty, 1664.
1 sheet ([1] p.) ; 1/2⁰.

Allowance, instead of prize money, of 10s. per tun for every piece of ordnance; goods or merchandise above the gun-deck to be lawful pillage. The charges of sick and wounded will be provided

*Spoiler*
The Dublin edition is just over two months later later,
"Given at the Council chamber in Dublin the seventh day of Jan. 1664" [1665]-

dirk   Link to this

Frisians and other Englishmen...

Long time ago in history class, we sometimes referred to the Frisians as that part of the Anglo-Saxon-Jute migration wave that "didn't quite make it all the way to Good Old England..." ;-)

Old Anglo-Saxon and Frisian were very similar indeed!

Terry Foreman   Link to this

John Evelyn's Diary

[28] Being casualy in the Privy Gallery at White-hall, his Majestie gave me thanks (before divers Lords & noble men) for my Book of Architecture & Sylva againe: That they were the best designd & usefull for the matter & subject, the best printed & designd (meaning the Tallè doucès of the Paralleles) that he had seene: then caused me to follow him alone to one of the Windows, he asked me if I had any paper about me un-written, & a Crayon; I presented him with both, & then laying it on the Window stoole, he with his owne hands, designed to me the plot for the future building of White-hall, together with Roomes of State, & other particulars, which royal draft, though not so accurately don, I reserve as a rarity by me: After this he talked to me of severall matters, & asking my advice, of many particulars, in which I find his Majestie had an extraordiny talent, becoming a magnificent Prince: The same day, at Council (there being Commissioners to be made, to take care of such sick & Wounded, & Prisoners of War, as might be expected upon occasion of a succeeding Warr, and Action at sea; a War being already declared against the Hollanders) his Majestie was pleasd to nominate me to be one; amongst three other Gent: of quality, Parliament men: Viz: Sir William D’oily knight & Baronet, Sir Tho: Clifford [since L: Tressurer of England], & Bullein Rhemys Esquire, with a Sallary of 1200 pounds amongst us, besides extraordinares &c: for our care & attendance in time of action, each of us appointed his particular District, & mine falling out to be Kent, [&] Sussex: with power to constitu[t]e Officers, Physitians, Chirurgeons, Provost Martials &c: dispose of halfe of the Hospitals thro England: after which I kissed his Majesties hand, as did the rest of my Collegues when the Council was up: At this Council, I heard Mr. Solicitor Finch [since L: Chan] plead most elegantly the Merchants Cause, trading to the Canaries, that his Majestie would grant them a new Charter.
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/LeftBank/1914/ed...

Paul Chapin   Link to this

Terry, thanks for keeping us apprised of significant entries in Evelyn's diary. This one was especially interesting. I wonder if that royal architectural sketch survives.

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