Monday 14 October 1661

This morning I ventured by water abroad to Westminster, but lost my labour, for Mr. Montagu was not in town. So to the Wardrobe, and there dined with my Lady, which is the first time I have seen her dine abroad since her being brought to bed of my Lady Katherine. In the afternoon Captain Ferrers and I walked abroad to several places, among others to Mr. Pim’s, my Lord’s Taylour’s, and there he went out with us to the Fountain tavern and did give us store of wine, and it being the Duke of York’s birthday, we drank the more to his health. But, Lord! what a sad story he makes of his being abused by a Dr. of Physique who is in one part of the tenement wherein he dwells. It would make one laugh, though I see he is under a great trouble in it. Thence home by link and found a good answer from my father that Sir R. Bernard do clear all things as to us and our title to Brampton, which puts my heart in great ease and quiet.

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daniel   Link to this

"by a Dr. of Physique who is in one part of the tenement wherein he dwells."

hmm, obviously too much of a, uhh, good thing can be bad!

Glyn   Link to this

"and found a good answer from my father"

He got a letter from his father on the 12th and replied to it immediately. So I wonder if this is his father's response to the letter that he sent 2 days ago - if so, then the mail is surprisingly fast.

Judy B   Link to this

I just noticed in the link that Lady Katherine lived 96 years! What a period of history this lady must have seen!

Josh   Link to this

And what memories might Lady K. have had of Mr. Pepys?

vicente   Link to this

Just my thougtht Glyn, in the 1930's mail from London town posted before 8am was delivered by late after noon to of the beat farm same day. In the 80's it took at least 2 days, One way that is say.
This ??? "...I received a letter this day from my father, ..."
http://www.pepysdiary.com/diary/1661/10/12/
and to-days comment by Sam seems to indicate a good service, no 1d stamp either. mail faster than modern post. London to Ely and back never took two days.
"...Thence home by link and found a good answer from my father...."
He does say Answer other wise it was by ESP and truly excellent.

Ruben   Link to this

a good answer from my father:
I suggest that after sending the last letter, his father received the good news that Brampton was clear. Knowing Sam's anxiety (because of the uncertainty of the title), he inmediatly (ipso facto) sent a new letter, this time with the good news.

Pedro.   Link to this

On this Day..

The 2nd or Tangier Regiment of Foot was raised by beat of drum on 14th October 1661 at Putney from soldiers of the old Commonwealth Army.
On return from England, the Regiment was established as "our most dear consort the Queen's Regiment", and as "The Queen's" was one of the Regiments not generally known by number or by its Commanding Officer's name.

http://www.queensroyalsurreys.org.uk/queen_of_r...

PHE   Link to this

Fountain Tavern
This building still stands on Fleet St - now housing a permanent Pepys exhibition. It is one of the very few houses that survived the Great Fire and still stands. For more info, follow link below and select file: 03_Fleet St.pdf.
http://www.smartgroups.com/vault/pepysdiary

J A Gioia   Link to this

...my Lady Katherine.

what, one wonders, was it like to live in a world where a grown man, albeit one needing to curry favor nearly constantly, was obliged to call an infant 'my lady'?

David A. Smith   Link to this

"of my Lady Katherine"
What kind of a world? In some ways, a more genteel one:
"Some people did not like this ceremonial style. But after all when you have to kill a man it costs nothing to be polite." -- Winston Churchill

Bardi McLennan   Link to this

In reply to J.A.Gioia - it's called "respect and good manners." Sadly, a strange concept in the 21st century.

A.Hamilton   Link to this

Sir R. Bernard do clear all things as to us and our title to Brampton

Atlast,clear title to the property at Brampton!

Glyn   Link to this

PHE's source is probably correct about the Fountain Tavern, but it is a little confusing because that is in Fleet Street rather than the Strand.

And there is another Fountain Tavern that is in the Strand and is commemorated on a pair of ornate plaques on either side of the road just east of Simpson

vicente   Link to this

An aside: mails, modern headline [this date]:"Royal Mail complaints rise 300 per cent as targets are missed:...."
no poste haste?

Paul Chapin   Link to this

Clear title at Brampton?

I'm not sure that this passage means the whole Brampton property business has been settled. I interpret it, rather, as a reference to the doubts Sir R. Bernard raised about the matter a couple of days ago, which evidently Sir R. has now resolved to his satisfaction. If I remember correctly what other annotators have said about the future that hasn't yet been revealed to us daily readers, it will be another year or two before the whole matter is finally settled.

Ruben   Link to this

Clear title at Brampton?

Sam knows only his present and his past.
If his father wrote that "Sir R. Bernard do clear all things as to us and our title to Brampton, which puts my heart in great ease and quiet.", well, that is a reality you can not discuss.
Sam does not know what will happen next year (1662) more than you know what will happen to you in 2005!

Pauline   Link to this

Clear title at Brampton
And clear title at Brampton is just one piece of the various things left at the death of Uncle Robert.

Because L&M treated this legacy under the entry for Uncle Robert, the information given in the L&M Companion is entered under his entry in our Background: http://www.pepysdiary.com/encyclopedia/884/

upper_left_hand_corner   Link to this

No use complaining about the postal system.

When there was only one way to find out things at a distance, people made sure it was fast as humanly possible.

These days news travels at light speed and the other uses of mail don't require the same urgency, as important as it might be to you to get that magazine you're expecting.

Paul Chapin   Link to this

Brampton

If Ruben thinks I was ascribing clairvoyance to Sam, he has misinterpreted my annotation. What I suggested was that Sam is simply relieved that Sir Robert Bernard no longer harbors the doubts expressed in the October 12 entry:
"I received a letter this day from my father, that Sir R. Bernard do a little fear that my uncle has not observed exactly the custom of Brampton in his will about his lands there, which puts me to a great trouble in mind, and at night wrote to him and to my father about it, being much troubled at it."
I'm reasonably certain that Sam understands very well that Sir R.B. doesn't have the final say on the disposition of the estate, and that there is more to be done before it is settled. He is just happy to have this one potential barrier removed.

Sasha Clarkson   Link to this

"... but lost my labour."

Before modern instant communications, so much time must have been wasted by people chasing each other around.

Edith Lank   Link to this

Some time in the 1980s I found myself in a bookstore in London, and found that year's just-released volume of the Diary, which hadn't been available yet in the States -- (you're hearing from an old lady, vague on specifics). What I do remember is that the store had a poster, a blow-up of Pepys' portrait, and they said yes, I could have it. They offered to mail it to my hotel, I said I was leaving the next day, they said no problem, it'd arrive on time for me to pack it -- and it did. It's a bit battered, but still on the wall in my office.

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