Saturday 30 June 1660

By times to Sir R. Fanshawe to draw up the preamble to my Lord’s Patent.

So to my Lord, and with him to White Hall, where I saw a great many fine antique heads of marble, that my Lord Northumberland had given the King. Here meeting with Mr. De Cretz, he looked over many of the pieces, in the gallery with me and told me [by] whose hands they were, with great pleasure.

Dined at home and Mr. Hawly with me upon six of my pigeons, which my wife has resolved to kill here.

This day came Will, my boy, to me; the wench continuing lame, so that my wife could not be longer without somebody to help her. In the afternoon with Sir Edward Walker, at his lodgings by St. Giles Church, for my Lord’s pedigree, and carried it to Sir R. Fanshawe.

To Mr. Crew’s, and there took money and paid Mrs. Anne, Mrs. Jemima’s maid, off quite, and so she went away and another came to her. To White Hall with Mr. Moore, where I met with a letter from Mr. Turner, offering me 150l. to be joined with me in my patent, and to advise me how to improve the advantage of my place, and to keep off Barlow.

To my Lord’s till late at night, and so home.

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Roger Miller   Link to this

A confusion of names?

The boy Will mentioned today turns out to be a young rogue and Sam sends him packing in a few weeks time. We never learn his surname but he does have a father who Sam takes to task for his son's behaviour.

Will is replaced by Wayneman Birch, the younger brother of Jane. Jane has another older brother called William who is mentioned later. He is not the Will in today's entry.

There is no such person as William Wayneman.

Alan Bedford   Link to this

It would appear that, like many others, the Earl of Northumberland is trying to get the King to forgive past disagreements with gifts - in this case, sculpture.

Algernon Percy, the 10th Earl of Northumberland, had been appointed Governor of the Fleet and subsequently Lord High Admiral under Charles I, but was dismissed at the beginning of the Civil War for refusing to support the Royalists. Now, he 's trying to ingratiate himself once again with the Stuarts.

Phil   Link to this

Good call Roger. I got very confused over those Wills. The link should make more sense now...

Paul Brewster   Link to this

fine Antique heads of marble that my Lord Northumberland hath given the King
According to L&M, "Algernon Percy, 10th Earl of Northumberland, had been a prominant member of the 'Whitehall group' of collectors and patrons before the Civil War. ... Many of the antique busts in the royal collection apprear to have been brought by Charles I from Mantua"
It seems that the King shall have his own again.

chip   Link to this

Does anyone know what Pepys means when he says Elizabeth has decided to kill the 6 pigeons "here"? Food was obviously very important to SP (as it is to most of us) as he happily mentions it so often. One wonders from where those antique marbles hailed. And where they went...

Paul Brewster   Link to this

Mr. De Cretz
per L&M: Emanuel de Critz (Serjeant-Painter to the King) had known the collection of Charles I very well and during the revolution had purchased a number of royal works of art which he returned to the Crown at the Restoration. On the eve of the Restoration a committee of the House of Lords had been formed to rehabilitate as far as possible the great collections formed by Charles I, and on 23 May 1660 John Webb had asked the committee to be allowed to hang in the King's residences in London the pictures that had been re-assembled and to have them recorded in an inventory by de Critz.

vincent   Link to this

"Dined at home and Mr. Hawly with me upon six of my pigeons, which my wife has resolved to kill here" this is proof, it is in the eating after all.
seeing other options at: http://www.pepysdiary.com/diary/1660/02/08/
It seems she has over come her fear of wrung necks.

Paul Brewster   Link to this

Mr. De Cretz (per Wheatley)
Thomas De Critz was Serjeant Painter to Charles I., and some account of him is given in Walpole's "Anecdotes of Painting." This Mr. De Cretz, who was probably his son, was a copier of pictures.
Do I detect a trace of snobbish-ness in Wheatley, the Antiquarian?

Pauline   Link to this

"...six of my pigeons, which my wife has resolved to kill here."
Maybe this explains why Jane is lame — there were fowl to kill.
In February Elizabeth had to take on the task. http://www.pepysdiary.com/diary/1660/02/04/#ann...
Maybe Sam feels they can afford to send them out for slaughter, but Elizabeth decides she can do it “here.” Or maybe they know they will be moving with the new posting and she doesn’t intend to take the pigeons to the new lodgings.

Grahamt   Link to this

Revenge is sweet:
On 3rd Feb we read "...I went to see Mrs. Ann, who began very high about a flock bed I sent her, but I took her down.."
6Th February: "Mrs. Ann, ... she and I had a very high bout".
There are several other entries in a similar vein where Pepys and Mrs Ann "have words"
Then today: "...and there took money and paid Mrs. Anne, Mrs. Jemima's maid, off…”. I assume to pay someone off means the same as today, i.e. pay them their wages and notice pay to date, and get rid of them. His position now with Montague means he can hire and fire fairly senior servants of his boss (and settle old scores!)

A. De Araujo   Link to this

"Fine antiques head of marbles" and where they went...That's right,marble is very durable,they should be in some royal collection! does anybody know who were they and where they are nowadays?

vera   Link to this

Maybe this explains why Jane is lame — there were fowl to kill.

That's a tad unfair. From experience, I know It's a lot harder to wring a gooses neck than a pigeons. Apart from the matter of size, a goose has a proportionatly stronger neck which makes it very difficult to do a clean job.

Colin Gravois   Link to this

The pigeon question.
Aside from the ticklish issue that's been discussed above concerning who wrung who's neck, if they're Sam's birds, as he says they are, where does he keep them? Is there a pigeon coop attached to the new lodgings? I know in those days pigeons were a hot commodity in country estates, and rules were strictly enforced as to the number of birds one could raise in accordance with the acreage of the place, but in the city????

Nix   Link to this

Apparently Samuel had a pigeon coop in the yard -- see the Feb. 8 entry. They could also be roosting in the eaves.

Around my house the problem is not where to keep them but how to get rid of the little flying fecal fountains.

vincent   Link to this

"Miss Anne". She just plain forgot who controlled the purse. One Sass too much ?.
He does not say why but one can visualise the situation , one of three things Sass,money,or her love life.
Pigeon coop 'tis better to say Dove Cote (so much much nicer).

language hat   Link to this

flying fecal fountains:
That's exactly why pigeons were kept in medieval times (and probably considerably later), as fertilizer factories. They could of course be eaten but that's not why the dovecote was a standard farm feature.

vincent   Link to this

Thanks Language Hat: I never thought of that: I thought Pigeons were kept to keep the peas from growing, and Me Lord to have bait for practicing his Falconry.

Matthew   Link to this

flying fecal fountains:
they also provided a source of saltpetre for gunpowder.

Terry Foreman   Link to this

Today in Commons -- not for the first time -- are discussed provisions for the garrison of the English pale of Dunkirk, which is getting costly to maintain..

http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?co...

Dick Wilson   Link to this

Poor Jane! If she continues lame, she'll lose her job, and then her prospects will be bleak, indeed.

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