Tuesday 7 July 1668

Up, and to the office, where Kate Joyce come to me about some tickets of hers, but took no notice to me of her being married, but seemed mighty pale, and doubtful what to say or do, expecting, I believe, that I should begin; and not finding me beginning, said nothing, but, with trouble in her face, went away. At the office all the morning, and after dinner also all the afternoon, and in the evening with my wife and Deb. and Betty Turner to Unthanke’s, where we are fain to go round by Newgate, because of Fleet Bridge being under rebuilding. They stayed there, and I about some business, and then presently back and brought them home and supped and Mrs. Turner, the mother, comes to us, and there late, and so to bed.

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Terry Foreman  •  Link

Written from: Whitehall - 7 July 1668

Ormond to Carteret

Has secured to Sir Robert Vyner the sum of twenty-five thousand pounds, with interest, payable to him out of the first moneys due to the writer, upon the Act of Explanation, and now at Midsummer to be levied in Ireland. ... Desires the payment thereof to be made accordingly to Mr Edward Corker, whom Sir Robert Vyner hath appointed his attorney to receive the same. ...

Desires also that, for Sir Robert Vyner's full satisfaction, Sir George Carteret will subscribe this letter, as the Earl of Anglesey subscribed a former letter of like purport.

Ormond to Sir William Domvile

Having received from Mr Ruthorne a list of lands lately decreed by the Court of Claims in Ireland to Alderman Barker ... desires the Attorney-General to put in a caveat, in his Majesty's name, to stop the signing of the Certificate, or if that be passed, to prevent the passing of the Patent under the Great Seal, until his Majesty's pleasure shall be signified in that affair.


Robert Gertz  •  Link

"Cousin...Come, what quarrel do you have with me?"

"Why did you marry against my wishes?" gimlet-eyed look.

"Because I fell in love..."

"Because you fell in love..." he muttered as if it were the most ridiculous thing since "A merry Christmas"...Or granting a foolish wife a summer's liberty.


Mary  •  Link

Kate Joyce's nervousness.

Having earlier (22nd March) agreed that Sam should enquire about the tobacconist Holinshed's suitability as Husband No. 2, Kate Joyce has gone ahead with her marriage without further consultation with her cousin. On 12th May Sam heard reports that this proposed marriage was indeed to take place without further reference to him, remarking "I do fear, by her doing this without my advice, it is not as it ought to be; but as she brews, so let her bake."

This current meeting seems to be the first occasion upon which Sam and Kate have come face to face since the marriage took place and Kate is, not unnaturally, apprehensive.

Bryan M  •  Link

Sam holds a grudge

When Sam learned that Kate married Hollinshead on May 11 he remarked: "I do fear, by her doing this without my advice, it is not as it ought to be; but, as she brews, let her bake."

But back on 22 March Kate had told Sam that Hollinshead was a likey prospect and had agreed (or submitted as Sam put it) to Sam making suitable enquiries. Sam also advised Kate that she should remarry quickly. Since Sam had clearly not done his part by 11 May, his reaction today seems just a tad unfair. I guess Sam's attitude to independently-minded women could at best be described as mixed. http://www.pepysdiary.com/diary/1668/03/22/

Terry Foreman  •  Link

Why this awkward meeting?

It's incidental, really. Her officious cousin happened to be at the Navy Office when Kate brings in some tickets to cash (at a discount, no less) she'd received as payment in her business as an innkeeper.

Had he been at St James Palace to meet the Duke et al., as he was yesterday, this awkward meeting would not have happened. She meets him because she doesn't know his schedule, and the net and foursquare haven't been invented yet.

San Diego Sarah  •  Link

Thus brave cousin Kate fades into history. Did concerned cousin Sam do anything to follow up? Of course, life goes on after the Diary, and after Elizabeth I trust his heart understood the human condition better. A fire, followed by a suicide and widowhood with children would have been a very hard road in those days. I hope she found some happiness.

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