"Thence to my brother’s, taking care for a passage for my wife the next week in a coach to my father’s, ..." No mention of Ashwell going. Is this why there was discomfort in the coach? "... after a walk in the garden a little troubled to see my wife take no more pleasure with Ashwell, but neglect her and leave her at home." If Elizabeth was suspicious of Sam and Ashwell, there's no way she would be leaving Ashwell in London. This doesn't add up.
"Do we know anything more about Juxon's time at the Admiralty?"
"3 June 1636) he was made a lord of the admiralty, a post he held till April 1638, when / his commission was terminated, by the king's resolution to make the young Duke of York lord high admiral. He was a very regular attendant at the meetings of the council held every Sunday, and meetings of the admiralty board were constantly held at his own house. He thus exerted a general supervision over all departments of the government." https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Ju…... pp. 234-235
"As Lord High Treasurer and First Lord of the Admiralty, Juxon was the last English clergyman to hold both secular and clerical offices in the medieval tradition of clerical state service." http://broom02.revolvy.com/main/i…...
I find it fascinating working out what a small world it was then. From Wikipedia:
"Gilbert Sheldon (Bishop of London 1660-1663, Archbishop of Canterbury 1663-1677) ... In 1622 he was ordained, and shortly afterwards he became domestic chaplain to Thomas Coventry, 1st Baron Coventry. Sheldon gravitated towards the Great Tew circle of Lucius Cary (Falkland), and was on friendly terms with Edward Hyde; he had no Puritan sympathies. ... He became a royal chaplain through Coventry, and King Charles intended preferment for him, plans interrupted by the political crises. ... "
Thomas Coventry is father of our Sir William Coventry, so it is probable Wm. knew Sheldon when he was growing up. Wm. was born in 1627, the Great Tew Circle went from roughly 1630-1640. And he might remember Hyde from back then too.
"In March 1636 King Charles entrusted Juxon with important secular duties by making him Lord High Treasurer of England as well as First Lord of the Admiralty; for the next five years he had to deal with many financial and other difficulties. He resigned the treasurership in May 1641." (And presumably the First Lordship because he retired at this time.)
Do we know anything more about Juxon's time at the Admiralty?
I think Terry nailed the underwear question last month:
✹ Terry Foreman on 5 Jan 2015 • Link • Flag 'I am ashamed to think what a course I did take by lying to see whether my wife did wear drawers today as she used to do" Drawers were not commonly worn by Englishwomen, but had been 'habitually worn by French ladies from the middle of the 16th century ... Mrs. Pepys was a French woman and probably acquired the habit before her marriage.' https://books.google.com/books?id…. (Per L&M footnote)
The Maypole had been taken down during the Interregnum.
By one account a new 134-foot maypole was put up in May 1661 by a party of sailors under James, Duke of York.
By another account, John Clarges is credited with setting up the new Maypole in the Strand at the time of the Restoration, upon its former site. Clarges was farrier to Colonel George Monck, and father of Anne 'Nan' Clarges (who married Monck after serving him during his imprisonment). John Clarges lived over his forge at the junction of the Strand and Drury Lane, near where the Maypole was set up.
I recall reading somewhere that the pole was taken down during the year and hung on the sides of some nearby buildings. I'll post these citations when I find them.
To clarify the New Theatre encyclopedia entry: The New Theatre was previously called the Theatre Royal (also known as the Vere Street Theatre). This is where Thomas Killegrew's King's company was established, after renovations to an old indoor tennis court in November, 1660. The company moved to Drury Lane in early 1663, and the building became a site for fencing matches.
Not so fast ... it wasn't necessarily alcoholic ... annotations from Saturday 30 May 1663 (condensed for readability): http://www.pepysdiary.com/diary/1…
"... Creed and I ... to the New Exchange, and there drank our morning draught of whay, the first I have done this year; ... and I believe it is very good."
✹ Ken Welsh on 31 May 2006 • Link • Flag Well I'll be. All along I thought his morning draught was alcoholic and it turns out to be the same drink as little Miss Muffett enjoyed.
✹ dirk on 31 May 2006 • Link • Flag morning draught: Could be alcoholic or not: beer (never wine or anything stronger -- and beer was consumed here for its nutritional value), whey, or even by this time hot chocolate... Cf. "Up and Mr. Creed brought a pot of chocolate ready made for our morning draft." http://www.pepysdiary.com/diary/1…
✹ Mary on 31 May 2006 • Link • Flag whey: Apparently whey was considered to be more wholesome for adults at this period than whole milk; the latter was deemed most suitable for infants and the elderly. (L&M)
✹ Don McCahill on 31 May 2006 • Link • Flag Whay: Wasn't the Thames terribly polluted by this time, and thus undrinkable? This led people to drink other things, and whey would be one of the few non-alcoholic drinks available.
✹ Nix on 31 May 2006 • Link • Flag Perhaps the morning draught was fermented whey --http://jds.fass.org/cgi/content/abstract/88/11/...
✹ in Aqua Scripto on 31 May 2006 • Link • Flag no Yogurt: it be milk that be going sour, mixed with a little baccilus: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lact…...
"... then to the Duke’s house, and there saw “The Slighted Mayde,” wherein Gosnell acted Pyramena, a great part, and did it very well, and I believe will do it better and better, and prove a good actor.
"The play is not very excellent, but is well acted, and in general the actors, in all particulars, are better than at the other house." So Gosnell was good on the stage. http://www.pepysdiary.com/diary/1…
Pepys has made a mistake: Today is Charles II's birthday. He was crowned on April 23, 1661. There was talk about making a new order of nobility celebrated on May 29 as Royal Oak Day, but it never came to anything.
Thanks, Terry ... that link has these annotations (and many more):
vicenzo on 1 Feb 2005 • Link • Flag the title Mistress as used by Bard has a heavier overtones than Mrs. Mrs. being less intimate;
Mary on 31 Jan 2005 • Link • Flag Miss/Mrs. -- At this time, the appellation 'miss' could be less than respectful and signify a mistress (in the carnal sense) or a whore. Cf. John Evelyn's comment on the prostitutes of Venice; "The common misses go abroad bare fac'd."
So calling her Mrs. Ashwell implies an element of respect for Ashwell's position, more than just Ashwell which refers to her position of a senior servant. Maybe why he changed her title now will be revealed later. And maybe it was just a slip of the pen at an emotional time.
"Thence I to Westminster Hall, where Term and Parliament make the Hall full of people ..." so the MPs and the Lords are mingling, doing business in Westminster Hall.
But what does Term mean? Was Westminster School there too ... and the boys are there because they haven't been sent home for the summer break yet?
"... but I continued in my chamber vexed and angry till he went away, pretending aloud, that I might hear, that he could not stay, and Mrs. Ashwell not being within they could not dance." this confirms my theory that Ashwell provided the music while the dance lesson went on.
Is it significant that Pepys now refers to her as MRS, Ashwell instead of just Ashwell??? I've been wondering why she is not being held somewhat accountable for chaperoning ...
""Mr Holliard's pills" Do we know the ingredients? maybe senna?"
Since our encyclopedia doesn't have a medicine section, I reprint a purgative recipe from last year ... I haven't discovered any pill recipes yet:
✹ dirk on 29 Apr 2006 • Link • Flag 17th c. purgative A recipe from *the* 17th c. standard work by Nicholas Culpeper's: "The Complete Herbal and English Physician" "Syrupus de Cichorio cum Rhubarbaro -- Or Syrup of Succory with Rhubarb" Take of whole Barley, the roots of Smallage, Fennel, and Sparagus, of each two ounces, Succory, Dandelyon, Endive, smooth Sow-thistles, of each two handfuls, Lettuce, Liverwort, Fumitory, tops of Hops, of each one handful, Maiden-hair, white and black, Cetrachs, Liquorice, winter Cherries, Dodder, of each six drams, to boil these take 16 pounds of spring water, strain the liquor, and boil in it six pounds of white sugar, adding towards the end six ounces of Rhubarb, six drams of Spikenard, bound up in a thin slack rag the which crush often in boiling, and so make it into a Syrup according to art. It cleanses the body of venemous humors, as boils, carbuncles, and the like; it prevails against pestilential fevers, it strengthens the heart and nutritive virtue, purges by stool and urine, it makes a man have a good stomach to his meat, and provokes sleep. [...] This I believe, the Syrup cleanses the liver well, and is exceeding good for such as are troubled with hypocondriac melancholy. [...] http://www.bibliomania.com/2/1/66…....
"On a slightly indelicate note, why does he record taking the pill the day after by which time he would presumably know the outcome, or otherwise?"
It is unclear to me why Pepys records a lot of things, pill consumption included. Unless he anticipates referring back to it when he goes back to see Dr. Holliard for a refill of his prescription (sorry -- no such things then of course!). Transit time can be fascinating if you are a hypochondriac, which I think Sam tended to be. Every sore throat and sniffle is so carefully documented.
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About Friday 5 June 1663
San Diego Sarah • Link
"Thence to my brother’s, taking care for a passage for my wife the next week in a coach to my father’s, ..." No mention of Ashwell going. Is this why there was discomfort in the coach?
"... after a walk in the garden a little troubled to see my wife take no more pleasure with Ashwell, but neglect her and leave her at home." If Elizabeth was suspicious of Sam and Ashwell, there's no way she would be leaving Ashwell in London. This doesn't add up.
About William Juxon (Archbishop of Canterbury, 1660-3)
San Diego Sarah • Link
✹ Terry Foreman about 22 hours ago • Link • Flag
"Do we know anything more about Juxon's time at the Admiralty?"
"3 June 1636) he was made a lord of the admiralty, a post he held till April 1638, when / his commission was terminated, by the king's resolution to make the young Duke of York lord high admiral. He was a very regular attendant at the meetings of the council held every Sunday, and meetings of the admiralty board were constantly held at his own house. He thus exerted a general supervision over all departments of the government." https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Ju…... pp. 234-235
"As Lord High Treasurer and First Lord of the Admiralty, Juxon was the last English clergyman to hold both secular and clerical offices in the medieval tradition of clerical state service." http://broom02.revolvy.com/main/i…...
About Sir John Cutts
San Diego Sarah • Link
June 5, 1663:
✹ Terry Foreman on 30 Jan 2015 • Link
"The match between Sir J. Cutts and my Lady Jemimah, he says, is likely to go on"
SPOILER: Lady Jemimah Mountagu (Sandwich's daughter) married Philip Carteret in 1665; Sir John Cutts died unmarried in 1670. (L&M footnote)
About Thursday 4 June 1663
San Diego Sarah • Link
I find it fascinating working out what a small world it was then. From Wikipedia:
"Gilbert Sheldon (Bishop of London 1660-1663, Archbishop of Canterbury 1663-1677) ... In 1622 he was ordained, and shortly afterwards he became domestic chaplain to Thomas Coventry, 1st Baron Coventry. Sheldon gravitated towards the Great Tew circle of Lucius Cary (Falkland), and was on friendly terms with Edward Hyde; he had no Puritan sympathies. ... He became a royal chaplain through Coventry, and King Charles intended preferment for him, plans interrupted by the political crises. ... "
Thomas Coventry is father of our Sir William Coventry, so it is probable Wm. knew Sheldon when he was growing up. Wm. was born in 1627, the Great Tew Circle went from roughly 1630-1640. And he might remember Hyde from back then too.
About Thursday 4 June 1663
San Diego Sarah • Link
From the Wikipedia entry today:
"In March 1636 King Charles entrusted Juxon with important secular duties by making him Lord High Treasurer of England as well as First Lord of the Admiralty; for the next five years he had to deal with many financial and other difficulties. He resigned the treasurership in May 1641." (And presumably the First Lordship because he retired at this time.)
Do we know anything more about Juxon's time at the Admiralty?
About Thursday 4 June 1663
San Diego Sarah • Link
I think Terry nailed the underwear question last month:
✹ Terry Foreman on 5 Jan 2015 • Link • Flag
'I am ashamed to think what a course I did take by lying to see whether my wife did wear drawers today as she used to do"
Drawers were not commonly worn by Englishwomen, but had been 'habitually worn by French ladies from the middle of the 16th century ... Mrs. Pepys was a French woman and probably acquired the habit before her marriage.' https://books.google.com/books?id…. (Per L&M footnote)
About Tuesday 2 June 1663
San Diego Sarah • Link
Ahhh, the end of the legal Easter Term. That was fast, Phil. Thank you.
About Monday 1 June 1663
San Diego Sarah • Link
The Maypole had been taken down during the Interregnum.
By one account a new 134-foot maypole was put up in May 1661 by a party of sailors under James, Duke of York.
By another account, John Clarges is credited with setting up the new Maypole in the Strand at the time of the Restoration, upon its former site. Clarges was farrier to Colonel George Monck, and father of Anne 'Nan' Clarges (who married Monck after serving him during his imprisonment). John Clarges lived over his forge at the junction of the Strand and Drury Lane, near where the Maypole was set up.
I recall reading somewhere that the pole was taken down during the year and hung on the sides of some nearby buildings. I'll post these citations when I find them.
About Monday 1 June 1663
San Diego Sarah • Link
To clarify the New Theatre encyclopedia entry:
The New Theatre was previously called the Theatre Royal (also known as the Vere Street Theatre). This is where Thomas Killegrew's King's company was established, after renovations to an old indoor tennis court in November, 1660. The company moved to Drury Lane in early 1663, and the building became a site for fencing matches.
About The Adventures of Five Hours (Sir Samuel Tuke)
San Diego Sarah • Link
http://www.pepysdiary.com/diary/1…
Monday 1 June 1663
'Begun again to rise betimes by 4 o’clock, and made an end of “The Adventures of Five Houres,” and it is a most excellent play.'
About Monday 1 June 1663
San Diego Sarah • Link
'To Dr. King, Dean of Tuam (Anglican), he observed in conversation, “The Scots have dealt very ill with me, very ill.”'
Charles II sounds like Donald Trump!
About Saturday 30 May 1663
San Diego Sarah • Link
Finally Creed leaves ... I wonder if these hilarious 'men's' nights have contributed to the recent communications problems with Mrs. P.
About Morning draught
San Diego Sarah • Link
Not so fast ... it wasn't necessarily alcoholic ... annotations from Saturday 30 May 1663 (condensed for readability):
http://www.pepysdiary.com/diary/1…
"... Creed and I ... to the New Exchange, and there drank our morning draught of whay, the first I have done this year; ... and I believe it is very good."
✹ Ken Welsh on 31 May 2006 • Link • Flag
Well I'll be. All along I thought his morning draught was alcoholic and it turns out to be the same drink as little Miss Muffett enjoyed.
✹ dirk on 31 May 2006 • Link • Flag
morning draught: Could be alcoholic or not: beer (never wine or anything stronger -- and beer was consumed here for its nutritional value), whey, or even by this time hot chocolate...
Cf. "Up and Mr. Creed brought a pot of chocolate ready made for our morning draft." http://www.pepysdiary.com/diary/1…
✹ Mary on 31 May 2006 • Link • Flag
whey: Apparently whey was considered to be more wholesome for adults at this period than whole milk; the latter was deemed most suitable for infants and the elderly. (L&M)
✹ Don McCahill on 31 May 2006 • Link • Flag
Whay: Wasn't the Thames terribly polluted by this time, and thus undrinkable? This led people to drink other things, and whey would be one of the few non-alcoholic drinks available.
✹ jeannine on 31 May 2006 • Link • Flag
Little Miss Muffet http://www.enchantedlearning.com/…...
✹ Nix on 31 May 2006 • Link • Flag
Perhaps the morning draught was fermented whey --http://jds.fass.org/cgi/content/abstract/88/11/...
✹ in Aqua Scripto on 31 May 2006 • Link • Flag
no Yogurt: it be milk that be going sour, mixed with a little baccilus: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lact…...
About Winifred Gosnell
San Diego Sarah • Link
"... then to the Duke’s house, and there saw “The Slighted Mayde,” wherein Gosnell acted Pyramena, a great part, and did it very well, and I believe will do it better and better, and prove a good actor.
"The play is not very excellent, but is well acted, and in general the actors, in all particulars, are better than at the other house." So Gosnell was good on the stage. http://www.pepysdiary.com/diary/1…
About Friday 29 May 1663
San Diego Sarah • Link
Pepys has made a mistake: Today is Charles II's birthday. He was crowned on April 23, 1661. There was talk about making a new order of nobility celebrated on May 29 as Royal Oak Day, but it never came to anything.
About Tuesday 26 May 1663
San Diego Sarah • Link
Thanks, Terry ... that link has these annotations (and many more):
vicenzo on 1 Feb 2005 • Link • Flag
the title Mistress as used by Bard has a heavier overtones than Mrs.
Mrs. being less intimate;
Mary on 31 Jan 2005 • Link • Flag
Miss/Mrs. -- At this time, the appellation 'miss' could be less than respectful and signify a mistress (in the carnal sense) or a whore. Cf. John Evelyn's comment on the prostitutes of Venice; "The common misses go abroad bare fac'd."
So calling her Mrs. Ashwell implies an element of respect for Ashwell's position, more than just Ashwell which refers to her position of a senior servant. Maybe why he changed her title now will be revealed later. And maybe it was just a slip of the pen at an emotional time.
About Wednesday 27 May 1663
San Diego Sarah • Link
"Thence I to Westminster Hall, where Term and Parliament make the Hall full of people ..." so the MPs and the Lords are mingling, doing business in Westminster Hall.
But what does Term mean? Was Westminster School there too ... and the boys are there because they haven't been sent home for the summer break yet?
About Tuesday 26 May 1663
San Diego Sarah • Link
"... but I continued in my chamber vexed and angry till he went away, pretending aloud, that I might hear, that he could not stay, and Mrs. Ashwell not being within they could not dance." this confirms my theory that Ashwell provided the music while the dance lesson went on.
Is it significant that Pepys now refers to her as MRS, Ashwell instead of just Ashwell??? I've been wondering why she is not being held somewhat accountable for chaperoning ...
About Sunday 24 May 1663
San Diego Sarah • Link
""Mr Holliard's pills" Do we know the ingredients? maybe senna?"
Since our encyclopedia doesn't have a medicine section, I reprint a purgative recipe from last year ... I haven't discovered any pill recipes yet:
✹ dirk on 29 Apr 2006 • Link • Flag
17th c. purgative A recipe from *the* 17th c. standard work by Nicholas Culpeper's: "The Complete Herbal and English Physician"
"Syrupus de Cichorio cum Rhubarbaro -- Or Syrup of Succory with Rhubarb"
Take of whole Barley, the roots of Smallage, Fennel, and Sparagus, of each two ounces, Succory, Dandelyon, Endive, smooth Sow-thistles, of each two handfuls, Lettuce, Liverwort, Fumitory, tops of Hops, of each one handful, Maiden-hair, white and black, Cetrachs, Liquorice, winter Cherries, Dodder, of each six drams, to boil these take 16 pounds of spring water, strain the liquor, and boil in it six pounds of white sugar, adding towards the end six ounces of Rhubarb, six drams of Spikenard, bound up in a thin slack rag the which crush often in boiling, and so make it into a Syrup according to art.
It cleanses the body of venemous humors, as boils, carbuncles, and the like; it prevails against pestilential fevers, it strengthens the heart and nutritive virtue, purges by stool and urine, it makes a man have a good stomach to his meat, and provokes sleep. [...] This I believe, the Syrup cleanses the liver well, and is exceeding good for such as are troubled with hypocondriac melancholy. [...] http://www.bibliomania.com/2/1/66…....
About Sunday 24 May 1663
San Diego Sarah • Link
"On a slightly indelicate note, why does he record taking the pill the day after by which time he would presumably know the outcome, or otherwise?"
It is unclear to me why Pepys records a lot of things, pill consumption included. Unless he anticipates referring back to it when he goes back to see Dr. Holliard for a refill of his prescription (sorry -- no such things then of course!). Transit time can be fascinating if you are a hypochondriac, which I think Sam tended to be. Every sore throat and sniffle is so carefully documented.