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Louise Hudson has posted 320 annotations/comments since 9 November 2013.

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About Wednesday 14 September 1664

Louise Hudson  •  Link

Paul Chapin: for the record:

"The Quaker Oats logo starting in 1877 had a figure of a Quaker man depicted full-length, sometimes holding a scroll with the word "Pure" written across it, that resembling the classic woodcuts of William Penn, the 17th-century philosopher and early Quaker. Quaker Oats advertising dating back to 1909 did, indeed, identify the "Quaker man" as William Penn, and referred to him as "standard bearer of the Quakers and of Quaker Oats." Today, the company states that "The 'Quaker man' does not represent an actual person. His image is that of a man dressed in Quaker garb, chosen because the Quaker faith projected the values of honesty, integrity, purity and strength'."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quaker_Oats_Com...

About Sunday 11 September 1664

Louise Hudson  •  Link

"Fell down dead." Probably used to mean "as if he were dead" or "it looked as if he fell down dead." Maybe the witnesses thought he was dead until he started to revive. They didn't know about heart stimulation or mouth-to-mouth resuscitation then. A lot of people probably did die in Pepys' time who would be saved today.

About Thursday 1 September 1664

Louise Hudson  •  Link

Not surprised Shasha never heard of scrod in the north of England. It's a Cape Cod area word. I grew up in New Jersey--not so far away--and I never heard the word until I was well into my adulthood. It isn't a term that's used very much in the States outside New England except in a few fancy restaurants. When I said I assumed you could get scrod in the North of England, I meant in the pluperfect subjunctive. ;)

About Wednesday 7 September 1664

Louise Hudson  •  Link

Sept 11:
"among others comes fair Mrs. Margarett Wight, who indeed is very pretty. So after supper home to prayers and to bed."

I wonder what he was praying for.

"This afternoon, it seems, Sir J. Minnes fell sicke at church, and going down the gallery stairs fell down dead, but came to himself again and is pretty well."

Nice trick.

Sept 7th

"where I find my wife hath had her head dressed by her woman, Mercer, which is to come to her to-morrow, but my wife being to go to a christening tomorrow, she came to do her head up to-night."

Put her hair in some kind of curlers, no doubt. I remember women setting their hair in "rags" when I was a kid. The hair was twisted and tied with a atrip of cloth. I wonder if that's what they did in Elizabeth's time.

About Friday 9 September 1664

Louise Hudson  •  Link

I would guess the boy is about 12. That's the age boys in that era went to work or became apprentices to support themselves, learn a trade and sometimes help support their family.

About Thursday 8 September 1664

Louise Hudson  •  Link

SD Sarah: Weird Pepys makes such a point of it being MRS. Milles' child, and does not mention the Rev.'s participation in the occasion.

Babies were always their mother's child until they were old enough to be interesting and were housebroken.

About Monday 5 September 1664

Louise Hudson  •  Link

Yes, Tonyel. Indeed you are speaking from a male perspective, and I from a female one. If every woman who married a ne'er do well was to be punished in this way, there would be no end to it. In addition, she and Sam started the affair before whe was married, so all bets are off.

Sarah, Sam's reluctance may have had to do with not wanting this obligation to employ her husband. I suppose he gets testy when a little tit for tat is requested. Blackmail? Sam never suggested blackmail. He only said Betty Lane, now Martin, wanted to speak to him and he suspected it was to ask him to find a position for her husband. No blackmail was implied by Sam. It looks to me as if Betty is simply asking for a favor from a lover. She may have not realized how much of a lowlife she was marrying. If he had a job he might improve and so might her life. You can't blame a girl for trying to improve her lot. Sam does bigger favors for men he knows with whom he isn't having dalliances.

Elizabeth might have been present through all this but it doesn't mean he couldn't say something out of her earshot. Unthank's was probably a noisy place.

About Monday 5 September 1664

Louise Hudson  •  Link

Sarah, I don't think Elizabeth must necessarily have been there. Haven't you ever spoken of you and your husband or another person as "us" or "we" even if the other person wasn't present? It's mean of Sam to refuse to find a job for Mr. Lane, seeing as how he's had his way with his wife. It seems to be the least he could do for her. The encyclopedia says they continued their affair long after Mr and Mrs. Lane were married. Sam expects sexual favors for nothing if he won't find even find a lowly position for her husband. What a self-centered cheapskate!

About Thursday 1 September 1664

Louise Hudson  •  Link

Sasha, interesting that cake oop North is fruitcake. That's new to me.

The drunken cherry chocolate cake you made sounds divine.

The pluperfect subjunctive joke was one I'd heard some years ago. I love jokes about grammar and accents. May I assume one can get "scrod" in the north of England?

About Thursday 1 September 1664

Louise Hudson  •  Link

In Pepys' time "cake" would have been fruitcake rather than what we all think of as the usual cake today, a light, sweet and soft concoction. I wonder who the Moorcocke who sent it was. In any case, Pepys liked the cake, saying it was "very good."