Wednesday 8 January 1667/68

Up, and it being dirty, I by coach (which I was forced to go to the change for) to White Hall, and there did deliver the Duke of York a memorial for the Council about the case of Tangiers want of money; and I was called in there and my paper was read. I did not think fit to say much, but left them to make what use they pleased of my paper; and so went out and waited without all the morning, and at noon hear that there is something ordered towards our help, and so I away by coach home, taking up Mr. Prin at the Court-gate, it raining, and setting him down at the Temple: and by the way did ask him about the manner of holding of Parliaments, and whether the number of Knights and Burgesses were always the same? And he says that the latter were not; but that, for aught he can find, they were sent up at the discretion, at first, of the Sheriffes, to whom the writs are sent, to send up generally the Burgesses and citizens of their county: and he do find that heretofore the Parliament-men being paid by the country, several burroughs have complained of the Sheriffes putting them to the charge of sending up Burgesses; which is a very extraordinary thing to me, that knew not this, but thought that the number had been known, and always the same. Thence home to the office, and so with my Lord Brouncker and his mistress, Williams, to Captain Cocke’s to dinner, where was Temple and Mr. Porter, and a very good dinner, and merry. Thence with Lord Brouncker to White Hall to the Commissioners of the Treasury at their sending for us to discourse about the paying of tickets, and so away, and I by coach to the ‘Change, and there took up my wife and Mercer and the girl by agreement, and so home, and there with Mercer to teach her more of “It is decreed,” and to sing other songs and talk all the evening, and so after supper I to even my journall since Saturday last, and so to bed. Yesterday Mr. Gibson, upon his discovering by my discourse to him that I had a willingness, or rather desire, to have him stay with me, than go, as he designed, on Sir W. Warren’s account, to sea, he resolved to let go the design and wait his fortune with me, though I laboured hard to make him understand the uncertainty of my condition or service, but however he will hazard it, which I take mighty kindly of him, though troubled lest he may come to be a loser by it, but it will not be for want of my telling him what he was to think on and expect. However, I am well pleased with it, with regard to myself, who find him mighty understanding and acquainted with all things in the Navy, that I should, if I continue in the Navy, make great use of him.

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Terry Foreman   Link to this

"he do find that heretofore the Parliament-men being paid by the country, several burroughs have complained of the Sheriffes putting them to the charge of sending up Burgesses; which is a very extraordinary thing to me, that knew not this"

From the earliest days of the English parliament it had been an accepted premise that the representatives of the shires and boroughs of England should not have to attend at their own expense, but should be paid wages by the communities that [they represented].

In 1951 R.C. Latham commented that a definite history of the payment of parliamentary wages in the sixteenth and seventeenth centuries could only be compiled "by the massed attack of some Wedgwood Committee of the future" (R.C. Latham, "Payment of Parliamentary Wages—the Last Phase" http://ehr.oxfordjournals.org/content/LXVI/CCLV... )

-- Parliamentary History, Vol. 26, pt. 3 (2007), pp. 281?300 "The Payment of Members of Parliament in the Fifteenth Century" Hannes Kleineke http://muse.jhu.edu/login?uri=/journals/parliam...

Terry Foreman   Link to this

"Up, and it being dirty, I by coach (which I was forced to go to the change for) to White Hall"

Evidently (unsurprisingly) the Royal Exchange had a hack-stand.

Terry Foreman   Link to this

John Evelyn's Diary

8th January, 1667-68. I saw deep and prodigious gaming at the Groom-Porter's
[ http://www.pepysdiary.com/encyclopedia/5821/ ], vast heaps of gold squandered away in a vain and profuse manner. This I looked on as a horrid vice, and unsuitable in a Christian Court.

http://is.gd/fY5wB

Investment-bankers at Whitehall Palace

Robert Gertz   Link to this

Sam as considerate and thoughtful employer with an appreciation for talent, very nice.

I see Abigail's stock has fallen with Sam this week.

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