Sunday 18 October 1663

(Lord’s day). Up, and troubled at a distaste my wife took at a small thing that Jane did, and to see that she should be so vexed that I took part with Jane, wherein I had reason; but by and by well again, and so my wife in her best gown and new poynt that I bought her the other day, to church with me, where she has not been these many weeks, and her mayde Jane with her. I was troubled to see Pembleton there, but I thought it prudence to take notice myself first of it and show my wife him, and so by little and little considering that it mattered not much his being there I grew less concerned and so mattered it not much, and the less when, anon, my wife showed me his wife, a pretty little woman, and well dressed, with a good jewel at her breast. The parson, Mr. Mills, I perceive, did not know whether to pray for the Queen or no, and so said nothing about her; which makes me fear she is dead. But enquiring of Sir J. Minnes, he told me that he heard she was better last night. So home to dinner, and Tom came and dined with me, and so, anon, to church again, and there a simple coxcomb preached worse than the Scot, and no Pembleton nor his wife there, which pleased me not a little, and then home and spent most of the evening at Sir W. Pen’s in complaisance, seeing him though he deserves no respect from me. This evening came my uncle Wight to speak with me about my uncle Thomas’s business, and Mr. Moore came, 4 or 5 days out of the country and not come to see me before, though I desired by two or three messengers that he would come to me as soon as he came to town. Which do trouble me to think he should so soon forget my kindness to him, which I am afraid he do. After walking a good while in the garden with these, I went up again to Sir W. Pen, and took my wife home, and after supper to prayers, and read very seriously my vowes, which I am fearful of forgetting by my late great expenses, but I hope in God I do not, and so to bed.

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Terry F   Link to this

"my wife in her best gown and new poynt"

poynt

Perhaps a gore -1530 PALSGR. 226/2 Goore of a smocke, poynte de chemise.
Any wedge-shaped or triangular piece of cloth forming part of a garment and serving to produce the difference in width required at different points, esp. used to narrow a skirt at the waist. http://www.personal.utulsa.edu/~marc-carlson/cl...

Todd Bernhardt   Link to this

"by little and little considering that it mattered not much his being there I grew less concerned and so mattered it not much"

A little early behavioral therapy in action ... good for you, Sam.

Robert Gertz   Link to this

"...a pretty little woman, and well dressed, with a good jewel at her breast..."

The dancing game pays, apparently.

Pauline   Link to this

Point, Poynt
L&M Large Glossary has: point lace, thread lace made wholly with the needle. (Under the two spellings.)

Robert Gertz   Link to this

"Up, and troubled at a distaste my wife took at a small thing that Jane did, and to see that she should be so vexed that I took part with Jane, wherein I had reason;..."

Samuel, how long have you been married? And to be fair, if Bess took Sir Will Penn's part while you ranted about his perfidity...?

msmouth   Link to this

Amen, Robert. However, the rules of engagement were a bit different then than now. The goose could behave in ways the gander could not and rare is a marriage between equals in any age. And spouses often fail to keep their mouths shut when they really ought to!

MissAnn   Link to this

" his wife, a pretty little woman, and well dressed, with a good jewel at her breast." Maybe this shows Sam that The Dance Master is well looked after at home and his jealousies are unfounded, BUT then again, many a man has strayed from a good and pretty wife.

"... I perceive, did not know whether to pray for the Queen or no, and so said nothing about her; which makes me fear she is dead." What ever happened to "no news is good news" - he's got her dead and buried already on the very least of real knowledge.

Mary   Link to this

poynt.

The poynt is not an integral part of the gown but a lace accessory to it. Most likely to be an adornment to the bodice, I should have thought.

Xjy   Link to this

"at Sir W. Pen's in complaisance, seeing him though he deserves no respect from me. "
Sam's mercenary attitude to acquaintance and friendship beginning to bite him back here. Normally he zips around from one useful contact to the next and parties the while (food, drink, music) so he can keep his repressed emotions repressed, using the excuses of news and networking. Occasionally the deep melancholy of this impersonal and careerist attitude breaks through and his hopping from tuffet to tuffet in the cold, dark swamp isn't enough to keep his feet from sinking and the icy chill from seeping into his bones...
Poor utilitarian, opportunist Sam...

alanB   Link to this

'What ever happened to "no news is good news" - he's got her dead and buried already on the very least of real knowledge.'
Quite so MissAnn - but it does raise the old chestnut of a question 'What if?' If Charles had remarried and produced heirs, would there have been a Glorious Revolution, an Irish Question or indeed a House of Windsor. Without any spoilers(!), I rather hope Sam is making the right call on this one. Long live the Jacobites.

alanB   Link to this

sorry, I meant Stuarts.

Pedro   Link to this

"he's got her dead and buried already"

Is Sam just taking the gossip of Gauden yesterday in the Dolphin, and now the uncertainty of Mr Mills to be bad news?

"Here we had some discourse of the Queen's being very sick, if not dead, the Duke and Duchess of York being sent for betimes this morning to come to White Hall to her."

dirk   Link to this

The Queen's "death"

News took some time to travel in the 17th c. The Rev. Josselin only hears on the 23rd!

"Heard of the Q. death:"

Laura S   Link to this

I think this "poynt" refers to the decorative end of a piece of lace - aglet in modern spelling - somewhere I've seen descriptions of the Queen's dress with decorative golden poynts. I'll try to find it. Meanwhile, check your shoelaces, because each lace ends with an aglet!

"Agelettes: Agelettes were pieces of silver or other metal, or tags, attached to the ends of laces or points. Palsgrave, in his Esclarcissment de la Langue Francaise in 1530, translates "Agglet of a lace or poynt." A pointmaker was paid 2d. per dozen for pointing points of silk with ageletts of laton."

http://www.r3.org/bookcase/wardrobe/ward21.html

Terry F   Link to this

The point of the "poynt" discussion?

The way to get a lively conversation going and perhaps to get something right may be to get it wrong at the outset!

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