Monday 9 September 1661

To the Privy Seal in the morning, but my Lord did not come, so I went with Captain Morrice at his desire into the King’s Privy Kitchen to Mr. Sayres, the Master Cook, and there we had a good slice of beef or two to our breakfast, and from thence he took us into the wine cellar where, by my troth, we were very merry, and I drank too much wine, and all along had great and particular kindness from Mr. Sayres, but I drank so much wine that I was not fit for business, and therefore at noon I went and walked in Westminster Hall a while, and thence to Salisbury Court play house, where was acted the first time “‘Tis pity Shee’s a Whore,” a simple play and ill acted, only it was my fortune to sit by a most pretty and most ingenious lady, which pleased me much. Thence home, and found Sir Williams both and much more company gone to the Dolphin to drink the 30s. that we got the other day of Sir W. Pen about his tankard. Here was Sir R. Slingsby, Holmes, Captn. Allen, Mr. Turner, his wife and daughter, my Lady Batten, and Mrs. Martha, &c., and an excellent company of fiddlers; so we exceeding merry till late; and then we begun to tell Sir W. Pen the business, but he had been drinking to-day, and so is almost gone, that we could not make him understand it, which caused us more sport. But so much the better, for I believe when he do come to understand it he will be angry, he has so talked of the business himself and the letter up and down that he will be ashamed to be found abused in it. So home and to bed.

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vicente   Link to this

Fate steps in, no work to do , so easily temped, 'tis the beefs fault it was salty, so wine be necessary [17C chips smiths] then out he goes, lo and behold a vision, and words of suggestion to entertain "...only it was my fortune to sit by a most pretty and most ingenious lady, which pleased me much..." pretty I understand??? but ingenious, naw that is veddy interesting. Oh! Sam what did she get you to do that you are affeared to put to pen. ["... pleased me much..."]
then the topping off at Sir Wm: Penns expense. wow! what a monday, Tis best to relax after all that tension at the Sanctory, A new maid to break in, is so very demanding and passifying a wife on the war path. I wonder if he tells Eliza about the "...simple play and ill acted...." not worth wasteing a crown on.?

daniel   Link to this

"ingenuous"

suppose by this word it implies that her conversation was agreeable, or something else?

and what pray tell, is a "trost"?

daniel   Link to this

or troth?

oops

A. De Araujo   Link to this

"Tis pity shee's a Whore"
I remember watching an off Broadway play quite a while ago in spanish: "Lastima que sea Puta"
I wonder if it is the same play; the title is exactly the same.

maureen   Link to this

Tis Pity She's a Whore - by John Ford, first performance 1633. Still regularly performed, in print and available from amazon (.co.uk and .com)

vicente   Link to this

If you read the songs of period,
they are today only for the rugger crowd, banned from modern company,
the gents and ladies were more earthy then,unlike today, it had wit and flow, not raw, untreated. Read Rochester or or other poets or ditties of the period. Not for the sensitive.
Then one's imagination would fly to venus.
It could be acase of
'Quoniam aemulari non licet, numc invides.' Plautes, Miles Gloriousus , 839
otherwise 'Since you cannot copy our plesures, you begrudge them.

vicente   Link to this

basic :English poet and dramatist John Ford often wrote about taboo subjects and the deep human emotions that accompanied them. His most famous play, "Tis Pity She's a Whore (1633), concerns the incestuous relationship between Giovanni and his sister, Annabella. In the following excerpt Annabella's husband, Soranzo, plots revenge against the couple after learning that Annabella is pregnant with her brother's child. But Giovanni takes matters into his own hands, with tragic results.
http://au.encarta.msn.com/sidebar_1741576333/Ex...

Pauline   Link to this

"...into the wine cellar where, by my troth, we were very merry..."
Said with gusto; and wouldn't that be an experience--set loose in the King's wine cellar! I suppose he will rue and regret and feel guilty.

DrCari   Link to this

Perhaps "ingenious lady" might be understood as the lady being young and freshly attractive in the manner of an ingenue.

Robert Gertz   Link to this

Lets see...Sam got bombed at breakfast in the royal wine cellar, spent the day at a play cause he was "unfit for business" and then joined the Navy Office gang to get plastered all afternoon and well into night…

Good to know the Royal Navy is in such capable hands…

Are there any openings at that office?

Hmmn…So, Lady Batten and Martha joined the merry crew roasting poor Sir Will P at the Dolphin?…Interesting lady all around, our Lady B.

Sam, you jerk…Go get Beth and let her in on the fun…Though perhaps our boy is letting his residual Puritanism show here. Lady Batten of infamous rep and Mr. Turner’s wife and their daughters may grace such wild goings-on but not his wife. Not to mention it might be a tad rough company for Bethie…

Louis   Link to this

ingenious or ingenuous: "clever, intelligence; OED notes 'ingenuous' as a customary 17th-cent. misuse for 'ingenious'"
---Large Glossary, L&M Companion

john lauer   Link to this

-- but this time Sam did (properly) use 'ingenious'.

Ruben   Link to this

googled "Tis Pity She's a Whore” and find nice poster in http://www.amrep.org/posters/pityP.html

Ruben   Link to this

you may buy John Ford's play in Spanish:
"La lastima que sea una puta"
or in French "Dommage que ce soit une putain" on Internet.

Ruben   Link to this

I see that 350 years later a woman still may become a whore, that means the lowest in society, by the same (sexual) act that does not get any special name for her brother.
The following disgression is only for Spanish readers:
Zorro: Espadachin Justiciero
Zorra: Puta
Perro: Mejor amigo del hombre
Perra: Puta
Aventurero: Osado, valiente, arriesgado.
Aventurera: Puta
Ambicioso: Visionario, Energico, con metas
Ambiciosa: Puta
Cualquier: Fulano, Mengano, Zutano
Cualquiera: Puta
Regalado: Participio del verbo regalar
Regalada: Puta
Callejero: De la calle, urbano.
Callejera: Puta
Hombrezuelo: Hombrecillo, minimo, pequeno
Mujerzuela: Puta
Hombre publico: Personaje prominente. Funcionario publico.
Mujer publica: Puta
Hombre de la vida: Hombre de gran experiencia.
Mujer de la vida: Puta
Atorrante: Adj. que indica simpatia y viveza.
Atorranta: Puta
Rapido: Inteligente, despierto.
Rapida: Puta
Puto: Homosexual
Puta: Puta
and some more:
PATRIMONIO: Conjunto de bienes.
MATRIMONIO: Conjunto de males.
HEROE: Idolo.
HEROINA: Droga.
DON JUAN: Hombre en todo su sentido.
DONA JUANA: La mujer de la limpieza.

OzStu   Link to this

Troth.

Without resorting to weightlifting the OED off the shelf, my Collins Little Gem gives troth as "fidelity, truth". I take "..by my troth.." to be a common exclamation along the lines of ".. to be honest.."

OzStu   Link to this

Ingenious.

A bit of a digression, but the word "Ingenious" is supposed to be the root of the English word "Engineer", as someone who solves problems (and hence implying intelligence). Not, as is commonly supposed, someone who fixes the plumbing or greases a steam train. A perenially contentious issue for those of us who are professional engineers.

Ruben   Link to this

Troth:
"Semper fidelis".
In German "Bleibtreu".
Maybe "treu" is from the same rooth as "troth".

Mary   Link to this

" by my troth"

A slightly old-fashioned modern English equivalent would be "Upon my word".

Mary   Link to this

Ingenious.

OED category II, example 5: well born or well bred. Perhaps Sam is saying that the young lady gave every indication of enjoying high social standing. Pretty manners, fine dress etc.?

PHE   Link to this

Lovable Sam.
Yesterday: "troubled in mind to think how much of late I have addicted myself to expense and pleasure... I pray God give me grace to begin now to look after my business". Today: the morning in the royal wine cellar, followed by a series of merry diversions from business for the rest of the day!

helena murphy   Link to this

Thank God Sam is not a courtier ,where let us hope a gentleman can hold his liguor.

Roger Arbor   Link to this

Ruben's poster... is it by Tamara de Lempicka? Looks like it. (Off subject, sorry)

And the king's wine... were vintages extant in those days? Or was this just ordinary stuff?

Ruben   Link to this

to Roger Arbor:
I agree with you. If you live in London you may check at the Royal Academy where last May there was an exhibition of her work. By the way, she was involved in the women's part of humanity liberation.

Ruben   Link to this

continue Vicente:
Here we have a man: Sam P, who likes to pick in garden's not his own, at a play where someone else is having the same forbidden pleasures. That after his wife met with a feathery man. How could he like the play?

Pedro.   Link to this

"Not to mention it might be a tad rough company for Bethie"

I found my Lady Batten and her daughter to look something askew upon my wife, because my wife do not buckle to them, and is not solicitous for their acquaintance, which I am not troubled at at all.

http://www.pepysdiary.com/diary/1661/08/25/

vicente   Link to this

professional engineers-Ingenious-to engineer.
So many doth think she be in troth be good, but she should know that the playhouse be so friendly to un-attached, so why does she subject 'erself to just a wink and a nod and is without an escort in a notorious sin joint, so spelled out by the 'out group' the pure in minds.[Puritans that be out, for being straight laced and uptight] Sorry! [not OED category II,in the opinion of my sinful non puritan mind ,the place was banned to the other end of the spectrum the RC Priests. The teatro being a place for frank speech.]. She was entertaining by engineering under the covers or shearing an Apple maybe or just lines that be in the play. Sam has not yet put down his thoughts, in Espanol.

Andrew Hamilton   Link to this

troth

cf John Donne, The Good Morrow:

"I WONDER by my troth, what thou and I
Did, till we loved ? were we not wean'd
till then ?"

http://www.luminarium.org/sevenlit/donne/goodmo...

A. De Araujo   Link to this

Ruben
Lastima que sea verdad
Tis a pity it is all true
but the times they are achanging

Nix   Link to this

'Tis Pity --

Samuel's reference stirs memories of my days as a drama critic, 30 years ago, when my newspaper bowdlerized the title to "'Tis Pity She's Bad"!

language hat   Link to this

"were vintages extant in those days?"

See the Wine background section:
http://www.pepysdiary.com/encyclopedia/309/

Short answer: No, vintages as we think of them are a creation of the next century, when modern corks and bottles develop. In Sam's day, wine didn't last, and you just drank the latest available (as is still the best idea with most white wines).

David A. Smith   Link to this

"drank so much wine I was not fit for business"
So much for yesterday's vows of moderation ...

language hat   Link to this

ingenious
I think in this context "clever" is the best rendering -- he enjoyed her banter.

Jenny Doughty   Link to this

I believe when he do come to understand it he will be angry, he has so talked of the business himself and the letter up and down that he will be ashamed to be found abused in it.

Interesting that Sam evidently sees more shame for Penn in being gulled than in his and Batten's actions in gulling him.

vicente   Link to this

Jenny D: a great point.

dirk   Link to this

troth

1. Belief; faith; fidelity
Bid her alight And her troth plight. --Shak.

2. Truth; verity; veracity
by my troth. --Shak.
In troth, thou art able to instruct gray hairs. --Addison.

3. Betrothal.

Source:
Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary
? 1996, 1998 MICRA, Inc.

[Middle English trouthe, trothe, variant of treuthe, from Old English treowth, truth. Indo-European Root: deru-]

Source:
The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition
? 2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company.

Kevin Peter   Link to this

It's not as if Sam didn't at least try to get some business done. He did try to get some Privy Seal business done, but found that the necessary people weren't there.

Perhaps he's not the only one slacking.

Kevin Peter   Link to this

I found it rather hilarious that they finally let Sir William Penn know about the prank they played on him, but he was too drunk to understand what they were saying.

I wonder how long it will take him to realize what they were saying to him.

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