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John York has posted 57 annotations/comments since 23 March 2015.

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About Tuesday 16 June 1663

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It sounded to me as though Brewer was staging an exhibition of paintings which were possibly for sale and that Pepys didn't like any enough to buy them.
The Companion states Brewer was a "Liveryman of the Painter Stainers' Company; ......... His bills for 'divers painted works' in the Navy Office buildings appear in the Treasurer's ledgers"
Some commentators read this as though he was a painting contractor bit I wonder whether he also supplied pictures individually.

About Tuesday 5 May 1663

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Coming up tomorrow at Tennants Auctions Leyburn (available on line through
Lot 2042 - Pepys (Samuel) The Diary of Samuel Pepys, 1893-6, Bell, thirteen volumes, including Index, 1899; Pepysiana, 1899; Correspondence of Samuel Pepys, 1926, (two volumes), and Further Correspondence of Samuel Pepys, 1929, t.e.g., uniform cloth gilt; Combe (William), The First Tour of Doctor Syntax ..; The Second Tour .., The Third Tour .., 1855, Nattali and Bond, three volumes, coloured plates, t.e.g., uniform half morocco by Galwey; Thackeray (William Makepeace), A collection of six novels, uniformly bound with t.e.g., in half crimson morocco by Sotherans; with nine others Estimated at £200 to £400.
Lot 2043 - [Pepys (Samuel)] Memoires Relating to the State of the Royal Navy of England, For Ten Years, Determin'd December 1688, 1690, large paper, portrait frontis, folding plate, calf (re-backed)
Estimated at £600 to £1,000
All plus buyers premium @ 21.5%…

About Saturday 2 May 1663

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Pricklouse - whatever Bess meant, is not a word I would have expected a girl educated in a Fench Convent to know. In her years in England she has picked up some colourful language.

Was Sam vexed at being called Pricklouse or was he vexed that they had angry words?

About Friday 1 May 1663

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Re Celtcahill's comment above, I thought John still had 3 unmarried children at this time, Tom, Pall and John(Jnr). Have I missed something?

Stortlow may be sold - this producing £200 for his father and the balance paying off some of the oustanding debts & legacies. Interesting that on 11 February 1661/62 Sam was proposing the selling of Stortlow for Tom's benefit "he needs money, and has no mind to marry."

John(Jnr) was at Cambridge University but never is taken into account as being in need of money in the present or for his future. I wonder who was funding his study.

About Saturday 28 March 1663

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JayW makes comment about the University Boat Race. The section of the Thames between Seething Lane and Deptford is further downstream and much more subject to the effects of the open sea, the waves would be much bigger here. One further thought is that if they did not take a boat they would need to cross The Thames and that would mean going up as far as London Bridge, which would then necessitate coming back down stream to Seething Lane, backwards and forwards.

About Saturday 14 February 1662/63

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Chris Squire, thanks for the OED extract. I notice the first reference is to hanging fallow deer until it is tender comes from 1599.
Contrast this with Dirk's annotation on 13 February 166/63
"In the 17th c most if not all game was eaten within days after the kill -- as was the case with all meat. Hanging game to "improve" the taste was not yet a custom."
It certainly looks as though venison was routinely hung at the end of the 16th Century - so why not other meat?

About Friday 6 February 1662/63

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A point well made, they are in very different places. I think the problem is that we do not always know which one Pepys is referring to. As I am on occasions told the answer lies in the Encyclopedia.
New Exchange - Built in 1608-9 by the Earl of Salisbury, it was located on the south side of the Strand. It featured many small shops supplying luxury goods. See:

The Royal Exchange - opened on 23 January 1571 by Queen Elizabeth I who awarded the building its royal title and a licence to sell alcohol. It is on Threadneedle Street. Gresham's original building was destroyed in the Great Fire of London in 1666. See:

So I think Bill is correct, Pepys is using old here to distinguish the Royal Exchange building (92 years old) from the New Exchange (54 years old).

About Collar Day

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"Collar days are designated days on which the collar forming part of the insignia of certain members of orders of knighthood may be worn. Collars are special large and elaborate metal chains worn over the shoulders, hanging equally in front and back, often tied with a bow at the shoulders, with a distinctive pendant attached to the front."
From the list quoted in the 1831 London Gazette there are 32 days listed (excluding royal birthdays) and these are nearly all religious festivals where members of the court would have been expected to attend chapel.
Whilst in the 17th century this would principally relate to the British Orders of Knighthood no doubt foreign ambassadors to the court would wear the orders of their respective countries.