1893 text

The game was originally played in the road now styled Pall Mall, near St. James’s Square, but at the Restoration when sports came in fashion again the street was so much built over, that it became necessary to find another ground. The Mall in St. James’s Park was then laid out for the purpose.

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Phil   Link to this

[Originally posted to the Pall Mall page on 27 July 2003 by Paul Miller.]

In seventeenth and eighteenth century France, mallet and ball games were quite popular and one of them, 'Paille Maille', was introduced to London where it was played in open ground near St. James's Palace. The are used for the pitch became known as 'The Mall' which is the famous London street that leads up to Buckingham Palace and this whole area became known as Pall Mall which is how that other well trodden thoroughfare obtained its name. The game was played on a huge strip of land, in this case about 1000 yards long and so was more like golf than Croquet - players took great swings at the balls in an effort to hoof them as far along the pitch as possible. The object was to finish by hoicking the ball through a raised hoop using a different spoon-like tool which was adapted more for accuracy and less for power like a putter in the game of Golf.

Phil   Link to this

[Originally posted to the Pall Mall page on 27 July 2003 by Grahamt.]

Paille Maille Translates as "straw nets".

Phil   Link to this

[Originally posted to the Pall Mall page on 28 July 2003 by Pauline.]

Pell-mell Headlong; in reckless confusion. From the players of pallmall, who rush heedlessly to strike the ball. The "pall" is the ball (Italian, palla), and the "mall" is the mallet or bat (Italian, maglia; Latin, malleus). Sometimes the game is called "pall mall;" and sometimes the ground set apart for the game, as Pall Mall, London

Brewer: Dictionary of Phrase and Fable
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Mary   Link to this

Pall Mall

One still hears the name of this street pronounced 'Pell Mell', though my impression is that this doesn't happen as often as it did some 40-50 years ago.

The Mall is normally pronounced with a short, front 'a' (pal, Hal) though substitution of the long, back 'a' (call, ball) is sometimes heard.

Jim   Link to this

In the U.S. there is a brand of cigarettes called Pall Mall -- I can remember back in the days when tobacco advertising was still allowed on television how I used to wonder why the announcer always called them "Pell Mell" cigarettes when the name was obviously "Pall Mall" -- My father, who had spent a few months in England during the build-up to the Normandy invasion in WWII tried to explain that that was the way they pronounced it in England.

Sometimes candy cigarettes (can you imagine that today!) would be labelled "Pell Mell"

Paul Brewster   Link to this

playing at Peslemesle

vincent   Link to this

Brewster's ref:appears to be lingua francka? for what is worth. Here=
http://www.chass.utoronto.ca/~wulfric/nicot/adr...
(53)

Paul Brewster   Link to this

pell mell/pall mall
The OED prefers to differentiate between "pall mall" the game, the mallet and the location in London, and "pell-mell" the sense of disorder and confusion. Even within this seeming clarity a sense of spelling chaos reigns. This is perhaps traceable to the foreign derivation of the words themselves. The OED says that Pesle mesle is "obs. form of pell-mell." then points on to two definitions of "pell mell". The first is a sense of confusion and the second is "pell mell, obs. form of pall-mall". By the way two entries also exist for "pall mall", one being the game, etc. as above and the "obs. form of pell-mell".

vincent   Link to this

no doubt: thanks for the update; a pun by SP if he 'writ' it or a tongue in cheek by L&M: my limited reading of the liguae leads me to all hell broke loose for the poem?

Todd Bernhardt   Link to this

re: Peslemesle/Pelemele

Sam made an appearance in this week's (11 Dec. 04) issue of Michael Quinion's excellent newsletter, World Wide Words. Here's the entry:

4. Weird Words: Pall-mall
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An old outdoor game.

Samuel Pepys wrote in his diary for 2 April 1661: "So I into St.
James's Park, where I saw the Duke of York playing at Pelemele, the
first time that ever I saw the sport." Its name was more usually
spelled "pall-mall", but he wrote it as he heard it in upper-class
speech. Pepys saw it played where London's Pall Mall now runs (the
game was the direct origin of the street name) but the course was
shifted later that same year, it is said because dust from royal
carriages disrupted games. The new course was about 800 yards (740
metres) long, laid out where The Mall now lies.

Pall-mall seems to have been a cross between croquet and golf,
using a mallet and a boxwood ball a foot (30 cms) in diameter. The
players drove the ball along the course by taking immense swings at
it with the mallet. To end the game they then had to shoot the ball
through a suspended hoop at one end. The person who required the
fewest shots won. The name literally means "ball and mallet" and
comes via the obsolete French "pallemaille" from Italian
"pallamaglio" ("palla", a ball + "maglio", a mallet).

Some writers have sought a connection between "pall-mall" and
"pell-mell", the latter meaning something that happens in a rushed,
confused, or disorderly manner, in part because of Pepys's spelling
and in part because of the supposed nature of the game. But this
has a quite different source: French "p

Pedro   Link to this

And for a picture...

http://www.thebookofdays.com/months/april/image...

Bill   Link to this

"A Pele Mele was made at the further end of St. James's Park, which was made for His Majesty to play, being a very princely play."—Rugge. It is derived from paille maille, French; at which word Cotgrave thus describes the game:—" A game, wherein a round box bowle is, with a mallet struck through a high arch of iron (standing, at either end of an alley, one), which he that can do at the fewest blows, or at the number agreed on, wins." In France, it was the common appellation of those places where the game was practised. "As soon as the weather and my leisure permit, you shall have the account you desire of our Paille-Mailes, which are now only three,—viz., the Thuilleries, the Palais Royal, and the Arsenal."—Letter of Sir Richard Browne, Addit. MSS. No. 15,857, fol. 149, in British Museum.
---Diary and correspondence of Samuel Pepys, the diary deciphered by J. Smith. 1854.

Lightarch   Link to this

Re Peslemesle. In French I've noticed that a circumflex seems to stand for an now omitted letter S. (see meme etc). This would give Pele Mele, pronounceable in the Metropolitan fashion .
(my keyboard doesn't run to a circumflex!)

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