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A. De Araujo   Link to this

"packing up glass"
good luck Sam!

Australian Susan   Link to this

"Packing up"
I have recently been packing up my son's things to go down to Sydney so this is much in my mind (never want to see bubble wrap again) -so - what did they use to protect valuables like glass? Paper was quite scarce and expensive. Rags? Scrap wool? And would they be packed into barrels - that all-purpose container of the time?? Wonder if we will read later of Sam fuming about the carelessness of the removalists!

Mark Ynys-Mon   Link to this

Sawdust would be a good packing material.

DrCari   Link to this

I imagine straw would have been plentiful and cheap in those days when horses abounded.

Mary   Link to this

£80 upon Jasper Trice’s account.

This refers to the long and continuing wrangle with the Trice brothers (see 8th-13th July 1661) over the question of their mother’s £200 marriage-bond with the late Robert Pepys.

JohnT   Link to this

The chronology sounds odd - unless it was common, even in winter when people would tend to get up later, to eat the lunchtime "dinner" sufficiently early for Sam to have a sociable meal and still get to Mr Philip's chamber for a noon meeting. And yet Sam seems to think he has had a full morning tidying up and sending things off.

Glyn   Link to this

Is this schedule of events correct? Surely he didn't have dinner at Lord Crew's before 12 noon.

DrCari's suggestion of straw sounds good, but he could have acquired whatever various materials he needed from the naval stores.

Wim van der Meij   Link to this

Wood-shavings (and sawdust) is excellent packing material.

Mary   Link to this

Timing looks tight.

We may surmise that Lewis Philips's chambers were probably quite close to Crew's house in Lincoln's Inn Fields, but its a goodly step from Seething Lane to Lincoln's Inn Fields: probably a couple of miles, so about a 40 minute walk.

Perhaps Sam's "all the morning" is a bit of an exaggeration; it just felt like the whole morning because it was not a job that he particularly enjoyed. Sunrise in London is at present seven minutes past seven, so the mornings are getting lighter and longer.

Saul Pfeffer   Link to this

received 80l
How recieved ? In cash, coin,note. Comments pls

upper_left_hand_corner   Link to this

Mary, some notes about time measurement.

Due to the Julian/Gregorian 10 day difference, February 21 would have been equivalent to our modern March 3 (I think). So the sunrise would have been earlier.

Also, at that time noon was defined as the time the sun passed over the meridian.

Because we now use "mean time", the average day length over the whole year, the time of meridian noon can come before or after the time we call "12:00 noon". Do a web search for "analemma" for more information, or see, for example,

So if you examine the sunrise and sunset times in London on March 3, determine the time exactly between sunrise and sunset, account for the "sun fast" or "sun slow" time, and reset the sunrise time, that would be what Pepys experienced.

upper_left_hand_corner   Link to this

London sunrise on 3 March 2005 is at 06:41, with transit at 12:12. So Pepys' sunrise on 21 Feb 1661/1662 would have been about 06:29.

vicenzo   Link to this

Saul: I doth think it be coin of the realm: Gold in Sovereign and Silver : no markers or bits of paper , just hard stuff. See money: http://www.pepysdiary.com/background/?c=money
£80: 30 gold pieces [oz avois dupois in a small sac] plus a couple of pieces of silver, weighed to be sure, to make sure it be not shorted, as some like be in the habit of scrapping off a little from edge, it be such that the French invented the serated edge to keep some from taking a little interest. The serated edge was just about to come in to circulation to prevent the scrapers from short chang’ing.

Todd Bernhardt   Link to this

re: Dinner before noon

Remember, as Vincent pointed out in the annotations to the previous day's entry, Sam is writing for himself, and thus bends the rules a bit. Going by Lord Crew's for "dinner" may have meant stopping by the household kitchen, where he surely was well known, to grab a quick bite to eat before his noontime meeting. Just because it's called dinner, it doesn't have to be a formal affair ... it's just what he calls the midday meal, no matter when he actually eats it (there have been lots of examples lately where he eats dinner well after noon).

Pauline   Link to this

"dinner" may have meant stopping by the household kitchen…to grab a quick bite to eat

Todd, this makes good sense. You are making us loosen our minds to the expediencies of Sam’s busier days.

dirk   Link to this

Sunrise, sunset...

3 March 1662 Gregorian
= 21 February 1662 Julian (British):
Sunrise Time: 06:41 hours
Sunset Time: 17:45 hours
(probably give or take a few minutes for calculation errors)

Daylight: 11 hrs 4 min


bardi   Link to this

For the morrow: Happy birthday, Sam!

chris   Link to this

Its worth bearing in mind when trying to work out when Sam might have been abroad that at the latitude of London, approximately 30 minutes of twilight are experienced before dawn and after sunset, that extends the day by about an hour.

Terry Foreman   Link to this

upper_left_hand_corner's analemma link is no longer attainable; here are two others that might help (at this date):



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