Friday 29 March 1661

Up among my workmen with great pleasure.

Then to the office, where I found Sir W. Pen sent down yesterday to Chatham to get two great ships in readiness presently to go to the East Indies upon some design against the Dutch, we think, at Goa but it is a great secret yet.

Dined at home, came Mr. Shepley and Moore, and did business with both of them. After that to Sir W. Batten’s, where great store of company at dinner. Among others my schoolfellow, Mr. Christmas, where very merry, and hither came letters from above for the fitting of two other ships for the East Indies in all haste, and so we got orders presently for the Hampshire and Nonsuch. Then home and there put some papers in order, and not knowing what to do, the house being so dirty, I went to bed.

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JWB   Link to this

Sandwich flyer?
Yesterday he borrowed 500 Pounds and today this East Indies adventure. Suppose he bought a stake? Dealing in plunder will be his downfall five years or so hence.

Emilio   Link to this

"in readiness presently to go to the East Indies"

This preliminary info from Sam is not quite what happens, according to an L&M footnote. The ships leave soon for the Mediterranean rather than the East Indies, and they don't engage the Dutch. Goa is a small province on the west coast of India and (at that time) a Portuguese possession.

Susan   Link to this

The Dutch and the Portugeuse were great maritime rivals in the east (problems over this still reverberate today - for example over East Timor) - presumably Portuagal was an ally of Britain, so were plans made for ships to go to Goa to defend it against predations by the Dutch??

Todd Bernhardt   Link to this

Two dinners for Sam?

Man, he's *really* blowing his Lenten fast: "Dined at home, came Mr. Shepley and Moore ... After that to Sir W. Batten's, where great store of company at dinner.” Or am I missing something?

dirk   Link to this

Goa

"[The islands were] ceded to Portugal by the Sultan of Gujarat in 1534. The Portuguese did little to develop them before the major island of the group was included in Catherine of Braganza's dowry when she married England's Charles II in 1661. The British Government took possession of all seven islands in 1665 but leased them three years later to the East India Company for a meagre annual rent of 10 pounds sterling."
From:
http://website.lineone.net/~vsahdev/mumbai.htm

A beautiful map (publ. 1572):
http://historic-cities.huji.ac.il/india/goa/map...

Susan   Link to this

Um. I think Dirk has cut and pasted a section that is just about Mumbai, not Goa. It is Mumbai which is islands and which formed part of the dowry of Catherine of Braganza. I don't think Goa ever came under British jurisdiction (lucky Goa??)

Susan   Link to this

"Two dinners?" I think in this diary entry Sam just turned up for the after dinner drinking. When they had large dinner parties they went on for a long time. Perhaps he went round there because he had heard Mr Christmas might be there.

vincent   Link to this

A History of Goa thru to its return to India: see time line and the early Portuguese era and the liberation dec 17 1961 entries:
http://goacentral.com/Goahistory/Historyofgoa.h...

Xjy   Link to this

"not knowing what to do, the house being so dirty, I went to bed"
What's this? No servants to clean up? No wife? Sam too drunk to do anything but turn his back? Why so dirty today? The workmen -- but they've been there before -- the dinner he gave? Time for spring cleaning? Sam nonplussed and hiding under the blanket after all the excitement of the day (state secrets and all...)

Susan   Link to this

"house being so dirty"
I read that as everything being covered in plaster dust or sawdust and after shuffling some papers about, Sam gives up in clouds of dust and just goes to bed. If it was sawdust, he might also have been anxious about starting a fire - he would have been doing all this by candlelight. He's probably got the beginnings of "bottle flu" after his merry time earlier in the evening and it's all too much effort.

Bullus Hutton   Link to this

I don't think Goa ever came under British jurisdiction (lucky Goa??)..
Curiously enough they did! For a short time the Brits did land (around 1800) just long enough to free the tiny country from the Inquisition, indeed those lucky Goans are now conversing more and more in English as we speak!) but I am sure that Sam and his chums Shepley and Moore were discussing some business a lot closer to home than that!

Pedro.   Link to this

Goans are now conversing more and more in English as we speak!
I think the increase in spoken English in Goa is more to do with American influence.(lucky Goa??)
Business Line .
"Even GE, the biggest success story in the business here, say recruitment agents, has exhausted New Delhi and is now pounding the streets of Goa looking for English speakers."

http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/businesslin...

Rich Merne   Link to this

"house being so dirty", 'workmen in, bottle flu', "I went to bed", I think it'd be coy to deny that we've all been there.

vincent   Link to this

Yep the time line does mention the intrusion into Goa. The Goans made note of the The English arrivin' in 1797 and leavin' in 1813 meanwhile inquision continued until 1812, So wot was the British there for ?

Pedro.   Link to this

English in Goa.
Quick look on Portugese site says:
1797 to 1813 Napoleon was planning to occupy Goa with the help of the Sultan Tipu. The English offered help to the portuguese forces. Various forts are captured by the English

dirk   Link to this

Goa

Re - Susan

Mea culpa - you're right. Goa was not part of Catherine of Braganza's dowry.
I should have checked more carefully before posting.

"Mea culpa": transl. My guilt.

Susan   Link to this

Dirk - the site you found was interesting: I think you just got the wrong section. Vincent's find of the website on Goa is fascinating too. One wonders how much Sam knew then about these places he's mentioning. He gets to visit Tangier much later. Incidently, I am so old I belong to the generation when a public exam pass in Latin was a compulsory part of the entrance procedure for Oxford University, so I knew what mea culpa meant! (and often have to say it myself!)

Jenny Doughty   Link to this

Susan - I think Dirk was translating because some people who read this board did not learn Latin at school and don't always know what these phrases mean.

Pedro   Link to this

"to Chatham to get two great ships in readiness presently to go to the East Indies upon some design against the Dutch, we think, at Goa but it is a great secret yet."

"Mumbai which is islands and which formed part of the dowry of Catherine of Braganza. I don't think Goa ever came under British jurisdiction (lucky Goa??)"

From British Foreign Policy 1660-1672 (Feiling) it seems that Fanshawe was to arrange the surrender of Bombay to the English fleet and ask that Bassein should go with it, to press for the implementation of facilities to our factories in India and suggest that Goa should be given to England to save it from the Dutch.

Dick Wilson   Link to this

I would have assumed, that had the King or Duke wished to dispatch two vessels upon His Majesty's Secret Service, that the entire Navy Board would have been consulted, and fully informed from the outset. I presume that the admiralty would prepare the sailing orders for the Captains, select the captains, and the ships. But the Board should know full details, so they can provide follow-on forces, replacements, supply ships, whatever the mission requires. This procedure does not bode well, for this or future operations.

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