Tuesday 19 June 1660

Called on betimes by Murford, who showed me five pieces to get a business done for him and I am resolved to do it.

Much business at my Lord’s. This morning my Lord went into the House of Commons, and there had the thanks of the House, in the name of the Parliament and Commons of England, for his late service to his King and Country. A motion was made for a reward for him, but it was quashed by Mr. Annesly, who, above most men, is engaged to my Lord’s and Mr. Crew’s families.

Meeting with Captain Stoakes at Whitehall, I dined with him and Mr. Gullop, a parson (with whom afterwards I was much offended at his importunity and impertinence, such another as Elborough), and Mr. Butler, who complimented much after the same manner as the parson did. After that towards my Lord’s at Mr. Crew’s, but was met with by a servant of my Lady Pickering, who took me to her and she told me the story of her husband’s case and desired my assistance with my Lord, and did give me, wrapped up in paper, 5l. in silver. After that to my Lord’s, and with him to Whitehall and my Lady Pickering. My Lord went at night with the King to Baynard’s Castle to supper, and I home to my father’s to bed. My wife and the girl and dog came home to-day.

When I came home I found a quantity of chocolate left for me, I know not from whom. We hear of W. Howe being sick to-day, but he was well at night.

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language hat   Link to this

"showed me five pieces":
i.e. five guineas; piece (OED):
Popularly applied to an English gold coin; orig. to the unite of James I, and afterwards to the sovereign, and guinea, as the one or other was the current coin. Hence half-piece. Obs.
The Unite was issued in 1604 as = 20 shillings; but was raised in 1612 to 22 shillings.
1616 B. JONSON Devil an Ass I. i. 5 I'll warrant you for halfe a piece. 1618 FEATLY Clavis Myst. xxxii. (1636) 426 All our crownes and soveraines, and pieces, and halfe pieces, and duckatts and double duckatts are currant but to the brim of the grave. 1659-60 PEPYS Diary 14 Mar., Here I got half-a-piece of a person of Mr. Wright's recommending to my Lord to be Preacher of the Speaker frigate. a1700 B. E. Dict. Cant. Crew, Job, a Guinea, Twenty Shillings, or a Piece.

vincent   Link to this

"A motion was made for a reward for him, but it was quashed by Mr. Annesly, who, above most men, is engaged to my Lord’s and Mr. Crew’s families" (OH! well,well! You can count on family connections?)

"an anagram of name ?…." Infernally dark, abhorrent anus (see Annesly )

chip   Link to this

Yesterday Montagu got right up the steps and for some reason, after chatting with his father-in-law, decided to wait until today to make his entrance. Could it be that this protestation by Annesly was a setup? And he did not go in yesterday as Annesly was not present? Why he would not want a public reward is beyond me.

helena murphy   Link to this

Montague may realise that he has already been sufficiently rewarded by the King for his services. The only remaining honour would be a dukedom,but this would surely undermine General Monck's, whose contribution to Charles'restoration was far greater than his. Montague is highly intelligent and an adroit manoeuvrer, he knows that it does not do in the early days of a new regime to come out too rewarded either,especially when other players will shortly appear on the scene such as Prince Rupert, Charles' first cousin ,veteran of the civil war and commander of what remained of the royalist fleet in the 1650's which battled with Blake in the Mediterranean and in the Caribbean.
Charles created James Butler, Duke of Ormonde, for his consistent loyalty to the House of Stuart from the reign of Charles I to the Restoration and beyond. The Butlers came to Ireland in the 12th century in the train of Henry II and held vast estates and public office there from that time.The magnificent Butler castle is still standing today, dominating the town of Kilkenny and open to the public.

Colin Gravois   Link to this

My wife and the girl and dog came home to-day.
We've all been ascribing various motives for Sam's "estrangement" from Elisabeth, but apparently all that bad-mouthing was for naught, or was it? Has she returned from a stay in the country? Or are things patched up now between them? Time will tell.

Colin Gravois   Link to this

Helena's adroit analysis of Montague's relations with the House and the King.
Helena, can you throw some light on the quashing by Annesly of that eventual reward for Montague. His relunctance on apppearing in the House yesterday was apparently overcome today by the dangling of a reward (but what?), then only to see it taken away?

A. De Araujo   Link to this

"I found a quantity of chocolate left for me" that must have been a real treat at the time!...

Paul Brewster   Link to this

Yesterday and today ...
I think Helena's analysis of his failure/inability/reluctance to obtain monetary thanks is close to the mark. By the way, L&M say that SP is the only source for Annsley's role in this matter, "There apears to be no other notice of this motion."

A somewhat different but related set of motives might explain his failure/reluctance to appear in Parliament yesterday. L&M's footnote from yesterday says "Montagu was due to receive the thanks of the House ... but his visit was presumably postponed by the arrival of a message from the King asking the Common to speed the passage of the bill of indemnity and oblivion." This may have been a simple scheduling conflict but it

Barbara   Link to this

Pepys' wife seems to have been staying with him at his father's following his return from sea. Yesterday she returned to the country (leaving him lonely for the night) and came back today with the maid and the dog. I don't have the feeling that anything was wrong between them. Later on in the diary it is very obvious when they have periods of discord.

Guy   Link to this

I wonder what Murford's 'business' is...

When it was first mentioned over a beer on 16th it sounded like SP was steeling himself to do something perhaps a little underhand. Now Murford comes round to show him the money in order to convince him to do it. Is Sam being bought?

Glyn   Link to this

Colin - I agree with Barbara that there's been no argument. She went for her things - see my comment accidentally posted for yesterday.

Glyn   Link to this

Lady Pickering ... told me the story of her husband’s case and desired my assistance with my Lord, and did give me 5 pounds in silver.

This has been puzzling me - it's to do with the Act of Exemption that Nix was discussing yesterday.

Lord Pickering had been a notorious Parliamentarian who had supported both Oliver Cromwell and his son Richard and had held various important positions in the Government. He had even been regarded highly enough to be one of the Judges in the Trial of King Charles II, but had managed to avoid signing the Death Warrant.

Now he's been exempted from the general amnesty and has been sent out of London to his country estate, with very serious punishment to be decided at a later date.

When I first read this I thought it meant that a VIP who was a stranger (Lady P) was giving Sam a lot of money to get an interview with Montagu. But then I discovered that she is Montagu's sister - she can get to see him without going through Sam; and what could he say that she can't say for herself? It must have been humiliating to have to approach Pepys like this. And do strangers and even family members think that Pepys is so influential with Montagu that he is worth bribing?

POSSIBLE SPOILER
At any rate, it worked - Montagu intervened and had Pickering's name taken off the Act of Exemption. His only punishment was to be barred from holding public office. Perhaps he could even have come back from that after a few years, but he dies sometime in the 1660s.

Sorry for the length of this comment.

helena murphy   Link to this

The Bill of Indemnity and Oblivion pardoned less important officials who sided with the parliamentarians, the rank and file so to speak. At the outbreak of the civil war Charles I lost the fleet to the Parliamentarians, therefore Charles II, an intelligent pragmatist,is eternally grateful to Montague for coming over to the Royalist side, thus he need never fear the blade. Personally, and I think correctly ,Montague still has to disassociate himself from the republican past and if it is politic to keep away from the House of Commons on certain occasions then so be it.

Jackie   Link to this

This is a fine insight into politics.

Firstly Montagu - the King has his own, urgent (to him) agenda to get through Parliament. Montagu is well aware of his questionable past - he has ensured his own position will be very strong. By modestly ensuring that any business of getting Parliament to reward him further is dropped, he appears modest (appealing in those still fairly puritan times) and does the King a favour by clearing space for him in Parliament.

The sister issue is similar - if he is seen acting directly for her interests, that looks like corruption, but if somebody like Pepys was seen to be the one who persuaded him, then he looks like he's responding to public pressure. Montagu is clearly a very clever man.

Jackie

vincent   Link to this

A good Politician always puts another head out there to see if it will get lopt off: and Monke and Montague were certainly adroite politicos; never be point man. Just look at their track record since Cromwell died:

vincent   Link to this

"Murford" a big time player Lining up the future contracts 17 c version of playing golf and loosing big bets:

Mary   Link to this

Murford's business.

Exactly, Glyn. Murford is a timber merchant, so he has every reason to cultivate Pepys' good will vis-a-vis possible future contracts for the navy.
Being "on the take" doesn't really come into the question; it was accepted that payment for advantage was a perfectly reasonable way to do business if one had no personal (e.g. family) strings to pull.

Glyn   Link to this

[Moved from yesterday's entry by Phil]
My wife and the girl and dog came home to-day.

This would be the "pretty black dog", really a puppy, that brother-in-law Balty gave them back in April.

I think Colin Gravois has got totally the wrong impression about what is happening here - I don't believe Elizabeth left after a quarrel and came back when she cooled down.

As I understand it (with guesswork): sometime last week Sam sent a message, perhaps by letter, to Elizabeth that he was coming home; and she travelled to London to be with him.

Yesterday, she went back to Huntsmore to collect her maidservant, her dog, and her household goods, furniture etc and managed to bring them all back in very quick time. Certainly much faster than it took to pack to go to Huntsmore in the first place.

Congratulations to Sam - he's picked a good wife - but isn't it time that they had more than a single servant (and that a mere girl) considering his new affluence?

Pauline   Link to this

[Moved here from yesterday's entry by Phil]

Glyn, I think you have it right.
But let's remember that most of the furniture is locked up in the dining room of their lodgings in Westminster. Moving the things she took with her back is sounding like a quick business, but I bet she and Jane will be in a flurry of cleaning, furniture moving, and resettling in the coming days.

Terry Foreman   Link to this

Today in Commons http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?co...

General Montague thanked.

Ordered, That the Thanks of this House be given to the Lord General Edward Mountague, one of the Generals at Sea, in the Name of themselves, and of all the Commons of England, for his great and eminent Services to his Majesty and the Kingdom.

And Mr. Speaker gave him the Thanks of this House accordingly; he standing in his Place:

My Lord, If you please to cast your Eyes about you, you may read, in our chearful Faces, our thankful Hearts; which do indeed express your Praises more than Ten thousand Tongues can possibly do it. God hath done you the Honour to be the Conveyancer of the greatest Blessing that ever this Nation received: You have landed our Sovereign upon the safest Shore, that ever English King set his Foot upon; the Hearts of his People.

The House have therefore ordered this eminent and transcendant Service to be recorded in their Journal, there to remain for your Honour, so long as the World endures. Indeed, no Measure of Thanks is proportionable to the Measure of your Merit, but the Thanks of this House: And therefore I am commanded, and I do, in the Name of this House, and in the Name of all those whom they represent, the Commons of England, give you their most hearty Thanks.

Chris Squire UK   Link to this

DNB opines:

. . Ultimately, the epitaph by his friend John Evelyn still provides one of the best summaries of the character of Edward Montagu, first earl of Sandwich:

My Lord Sandwich was prudent as well as valiant, and always governed his affairs with success, and little loss, he was for deliberation and reason … deplorable was the loss of one of the best accomplished persons, not only of this nation but of any other: he was learned in the Mathematics, in Music, in Sea affairs, in political … was of a sweet obliging temper; sober, chaste, infinitely ingenious and a true noble man, an ornament to the court, and his prince. (Evelyn, 3.616–19)

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