There is a reference in Canterbury - wills proved in the Prerogative Court of Canterbury 1657-1660
Tatnell Valentine, jurate, Dover, Kent 1659 455
but I do not know if this is his death or if he was another's executor.
There is a further reference in Index of Chancery Proceedings (Reynardson's Division) 1649-1714 ( A-K) under Attorney General's suits for England ( General) Browne Alford and Tatnell 1668 42 6 Browne Tatnell 1669 60 27
I have found a further reference to a Captain Tatnell in The House of Commons Journal Volume 7 of 15th April 1653 under the title "Officers Widows etc".
" By the Commissioners for Ordering and Managing the Affairs of the Admiralty and Navy:
In pursuance of an Order of Parliament of the 22nd February 1652; whereby it is referred to the said Commissioners, to consider of the Persons slain in the late Engagement with the Dutch; and to present to the Parliament what they shall think fit to be done therein;
The said Commissioners, upon Examination, do find, that there were Seven Captains slain in the said Engagement, who behaved themselves very valiantly in the Service: And , upon Consideration of the sad Condition of their respective Widows and Children, do humbly offer,
That the Parliament will be pleased to allow unto them, for the Maintenance and Relief of the said Widows and Children, the several Sums of Money here undermentioned; viz.
4. To the Widow of Captain Tatnell, Captain of the Fortune, the Number of whose Children is not yet known unto us, the sum of Five Hundred Pounds."
Does anyone know if this man was related to Captain Valentine Tatnell?
Valentine Tatnell: it seems that his commands were in 1653-4 "Rosebush", in 1656 "Old President" and after the restoration 1656 "Satisfaction" and 1657-1660 "Adventure".
Captain William Tatnell was in command (1649) of the "Increase", merchantman taken into service, captured and exchanged, and 1652-1653 "Fortune" in which he was killed in action.
The information comes from The Society for Nautical Research Occasional Publications No 8: List of English Naval Captains, 1642-1660 complied by R.C.Anderson; it is just a list with no further details.
Confusingly there were 3 Valentine Tatnells. Valentine I was mayor of Dover who died in 1659; in his will he mentions his son Valentine II, who was secretary to Sir W Coventry and who died perhaps in 1688; he is the man mentioned in the diary. Valentine III was the son of John Tatnell and grandson of Valentine I.
Valentine I seems to have been a retired sea captain or merchant and to have converted most of his cash into real estate in the years before his death.Valentine I seems to have married his daughters into mayoral families in Dover.
Letter of Capt. Valentine Tatnell jun., on the 'Rosebush' nr. Gravesend. Ordering and viewing options This record has not been digitised and cannot be downloaded. Reference: SP 46/115/fo138 Description: Letter of Capt. Valentine Tatnell jun., on the 'Rosebush' nr. Gravesend. Requests issue of shot and addition to his crew. 25 Sept. 1653. Held by: The National Archives, Kew Legal status: Public Record(s) Closure status: Open Document, Open Description
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A JURAT is a municipal officer or magistrate. Since Mayor Valentine I died in 1659, this will may refer to our Capt. Valentine II, but was not written by him.
Tatnell, Capt. or Lieut. Valentine, senior -, commission to -, letters of -, Valentine, jun., letter of -, Capt. Wm., children of, grant to
General Index: T, U, V Pages 670-675
Calendar of State Papers Domestic: Interregnum, 1653-4. Originally published by Her Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1879.
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First Reading
Paul Brewster • Link
(dead by 1688) First commissioned in 1653 he held only one command (the Adventure) after the Restoration. [Per L&M Companion]
Michael Tatnell • Link
There is a reference in Canterbury - wills proved in the Prerogative Court of Canterbury 1657-1660
Tatnell Valentine, jurate, Dover, Kent 1659 455
but I do not know if this is his death or if he was another's executor.
There is a further reference in Index of Chancery Proceedings (Reynardson's Division) 1649-1714 ( A-K) under Attorney General's suits for England ( General)
Browne Alford and Tatnell 1668 42 6
Browne Tatnell 1669 60 27
I have not had time to investigate these.
dirk • Link
The same Valentine Tatnell ?
Mayors in Dover, Kent:
Source: The Annuls of Dover.
Transcribed by Dorothy Holden
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsw…
http://www.kent-opc.org.uk/Parish…
"1654 - Valentine TATNELL - Valentine Tatnell was very active in promoting good order."
Michael Tatnell • Link
I have found a further reference to a Captain Tatnell in The House of Commons Journal Volume 7 of 15th April 1653 under the title "Officers Widows etc".
" By the Commissioners for Ordering and Managing the Affairs of the Admiralty and Navy:
In pursuance of an Order of Parliament of the 22nd February 1652; whereby it is referred to the said Commissioners, to consider of the Persons slain in the late Engagement with the Dutch; and to present to the Parliament what they shall think fit to be done therein;
The said Commissioners, upon Examination, do find, that there were Seven Captains slain in the said Engagement, who behaved themselves very valiantly in the Service: And , upon Consideration of the sad Condition of their respective Widows and Children, do humbly offer,
That the Parliament will be pleased to allow unto them, for the Maintenance and Relief of the said Widows and Children, the several Sums of Money here undermentioned; viz.
4. To the Widow of Captain Tatnell, Captain of the Fortune, the Number of whose Children is not yet known unto us, the sum of Five Hundred Pounds."
Does anyone know if this man was related to Captain Valentine Tatnell?
Graham Tatnell • Link
Could this be the same Captain Tatnell who was Secretary to Sir William Coventry Commissioner to the Navy and a Privy Counsellor ?
Michael Tatnell • Link
Valentine Tatnell: it seems that his commands were in 1653-4 "Rosebush", in 1656 "Old President" and after the restoration 1656 "Satisfaction" and 1657-1660 "Adventure".
Captain William Tatnell was in command (1649) of the "Increase", merchantman taken into service, captured and exchanged, and 1652-1653 "Fortune" in which he was killed in action.
The information comes from The Society for Nautical Research Occasional Publications No 8: List of English Naval Captains, 1642-1660 complied by R.C.Anderson; it is just a list with no further details.
Michael Tatnell • Link
Confusingly there were 3 Valentine Tatnells. Valentine I was mayor of Dover who died in 1659; in his will he mentions his son Valentine II, who was secretary to Sir W Coventry and who died perhaps in 1688; he is the man mentioned in the diary. Valentine III was the son of John Tatnell and grandson of Valentine I.
Valentine I seems to have been a retired sea captain or merchant and to have converted most of his cash into real estate in the years before his death.Valentine I seems to have married his daughters into mayoral families in Dover.
Michael Tatnell • Link
The will proved in 1659 is the will of Valentine I
Second Reading
Bill • Link
TATNEL, Valentine,—commanded the Adventure, by commission from the duke of York, soon after the restoration.
---Biographia Navalis. J. Charnock, 1794.
San Diego Sarah • Link
Letter of Capt. Valentine Tatnell jun., on the 'Rosebush' nr. Gravesend.
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Reference: SP 46/115/fo138
Description: Letter of Capt. Valentine Tatnell jun., on the 'Rosebush' nr. Gravesend. Requests issue of shot and addition to his crew. 25 Sept. 1653.
Held by: The National Archives, Kew
Legal status: Public Record(s)
Closure status: Open Document, Open Description
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So it's confirmed that Valentine II was a Parliamentary captain.
San Diego Sarah • Link
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Description: Will of Valentine Tatnell, Jurate of Town and Port of Dover, Kent
Date: 24 August 1659
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A JURAT is a municipal officer or magistrate.
Since Mayor Valentine I died in 1659, this will may refer to our Capt. Valentine II, but was not written by him.
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Tatnell, Capt. or Lieut. Valentine, senior
-, commission to
-, letters of
-, Valentine, jun., letter of
-, Capt. Wm., children of, grant to
General Index: T, U, V
Pages 670-675
Calendar of State Papers Domestic: Interregnum, 1653-4. Originally published by Her Majesty's Stationery Office, London, 1879.
This free content was digitised by double rekeying. All rights reserved.
Citation:
BHO
'General Index: T, U, V', in Calendar of State Papers Domestic: Interregnum, 1653-4, ed. Mary Anne Everett Green (London, 1879), pp. 670-675.
British History Online
http://www.british-history.ac.uk/…
[accessed 9 March 2021].
This volume has gold page scans.
Access these scans with a gold subscription WHICH ARE CURRENTLY FREE UNTIL COVID-19 ENDS.
But as usual they don't seem to want to get you from the index to the documents!!! If I figure it out, I'll let you know.