Wednesday 29 October 1662

(Lord Mayor’s day). Intended to have made me fine, and by invitation to have dined with the Lord Mayor to-day, but going to see Sir W. Batten this morning, I found Sir G. Carteret and Sir J. Minnes going with Sir W. Batten and myself to examine Sir G. Carteret’s accounts for the last year, whereupon I settled to it with them all the day long, only dinner time (which Sir G. Carteret gave us), and by night did as good as finish them, and so parted, and thence to my office, and there set papers in order and business against to-morrow. I received a letter this day from my father, speaking more trouble about my uncle Thomas his business, and of proceeding to lay claim to Brampton and all my uncle left, because it is given conditional that we should pay legacys, which to him we have not yet done, but I hope that will do us no hurt; God help us if it should, but it disquiets my mind. I have also a letter from my Lord Sandwich desiring me upon matters of concernment to be with him early tomorrow morning, which I wonder what it should be. So my mind full of thoughts, and some trouble at night, home and to bed. Sir G. Carteret, who had been at the examining most of the late people that are clapped up, do say that he do not think that there hath been any great plotting among them, though they have a good will to it; but their condition is so poor, and silly, and low, that they do not fear them at all.

13 Annotations

Terry F   Link to this

"most of the...people...clapped up [last Sunday are] so poor, and silly, and low, that they do not fear them at all."

Many Quakers who were imprisoned throughout November were held until January. http://www.pepysdiary.com/diary/1662/10/26/#c37158

Quakers were at this time often mistaken for Fifth-Monarchy insurrectionists because these were two of the several groups of nonconformists -- Quakers publicly distinguished themselves by their dress and regular meetings; whereas the true insurrectionists, the Fifth-Monarchy men among them were secretive irregulars.

dirk   Link to this

John Evelyn was at the Lord Mayor's...

"Was my L. Majors shew with a number of sumptuous pageantry, speeches & Verses: I was standing in an house in Cheape side, against the place prepared for their Majesties. The Prince & heire of Denmark [after: King of Denmark] was there, but not our King: There were also the Maids of honor: I went to Court this Evening and had much discourse with Dr. Basiers one of his Majesties Chaplains the greate Travellor, who shewed me the Syngraphs & original subscriptions of divers Eastern Patriarchs & Asian Churches to our Confession &c: I returned the next day:"

Robert Gertz   Link to this

Lord Sandwich's "...matters of concernment..."

Hmmn...

A piece of art, music, furniture he wants Sam's opinion on...?

A vote in the new Tangier committee he wants Sam to cast...?

An errand for Lady Jem...?

Or...

"Cousin, you being the one man I trust, I shall open my mind to you freely. I can no longer serve this king and have resolved to lead an uprising against him. You, cousin, shall be my agent at the Naval Office to sound out those officers and men who will back this great enterprise."

The hell you say...? Sam thinks, staring.

Or...

"Pepys, I should like to have your wife...Over for dinner. Send her tonight, would you?"

Or...

Nervous glance to see if alls secure...Sandwich waves Pepys in. And on closing the door, suddenly reveals the hiding places of fifteen men and women. Clearly Quakers by their dress.

"Sir...?"

"Pepys. These innocent men and women, Quakers all, are being unjustly threatened and condemned. I have chosen to act my conscience and save them from the irrational prejudice of the Council. You, my friend, cousin, and indebted protege, shall assist me in finding safe passage for these good people and their families...And a few hundred others...To the Continent or the Americas."

Uh...

Cumgranissalis   Link to this

"...clapped up.." nowt said which clink it be. Be it the Clink on the Southwark side, opposite the Swan stairs, The Fleet, The Tower { it be for the lauded ones}, Bridewell and Newgate, amongst other places of incarceration.
The Quakers, would appear too have strong beliefs of equality, for they refused to swear an Oath of allegiance, and would rather suffer the pain of hunger and chains and be surrounded by filth than succumb to an idea that they did not agree with, [I wonder what percentage of the populace today would do the same ]
Oh Sam, the put downs.
Noncomformists, they that do not believe in the divine Right of Kings, those that be called Liberals in this day and age, I dothe think, or now be be called Commies, Pinko's [Levellers] .

Terry F   Link to this

Today's theme seems to be loose ends:

- Sir G. Carteret’s accounts for the last year;

- an impending presentation on the morrow (of Sir. G.C.'s accounts?);

- a letter about trouble regarding Uncle Robert's will http://www.pepysdiary.com/encyclopedia/3384/

- the mysterious letter from Sandwich "upon matters of concernment"...

- the lately incarcerated, who were likely innocent;

Loose ends, not auguring for an untroubled sleep....

Cumgranissalis   Link to this

'...secretive irregulars...' If ye be 180 degrees in disagreement to the power group, ye be best keep thy mouth trully shut, as many throu out time have found that most of the power hungery types will find a way to silence thee, wherever possible. Very few leaders tolerate a disagreement unless one is astute enough quickly show the profit in the position to he who must be followed..
Charles knew he was still treading on sqishy ground, in that his meal tickets [the city] be not all licking his boots like lakeys that he has running up and down the ambularcrums [Galleries] fawning like the inner modern circles of the modern PACS.
One doth [ a leader that is]likes thee who says "Yea my Liege" and have something to offer, like Palmer.But there be movement afoot to have the in group [Conformists] get total power while defanging and outing the nonconformists, that is the Vatican surporters on on end and the rebellious louts on the other. The Generation of wealth of the kingdom is in the City and Parliament, although the royals do have a say in who gets the priviledge of making the big bucks. This be the jungle of reality .

Michael Robinson   Link to this

Lord Mayor's Day / Show

The show continues today, though in Pepy's time it took place on the Thames.

http://www.lordmayorsshow.org/hist/index.shtml

For a reproduction of the famous Canaletto of the 1747 show and a Hogarth engraving see:-

http://www.lordmayorsshow.org/hist/lit.shtml

Glyn   Link to this

If anyone is planning a day trip to London, then the next Lord Mayor's Show would be a good day to do it on. It's in two weeks time on Saturday 12 November and as well as the 3-mile (4km) procession there are free guided walks through the city afterwards, and a very large firework display on the river at 5pm. Although there will be half a million people lining the route you should be able to get a good place to watch it.

Click on Michael Robinson's link above for more information.

Terry F   Link to this

Insurrectionists targeted the civil concord of City and Crown, insofar as the Lord Mayor’s Day / Show is the ritual journey on the Thames of the Lord Mayor from London to Westminster to again pledge allegiance by the nation's prosperous commercial center to the monarch.

That this was a critical symbol and more is argued by John Patrick Montaño, “The Quest for Consensus: The Lord Mayor’s Shows in the 1670s,” in *Culture and Society in the Stuart Restoration : Literature, Drama, History* by Gerald Maclean (ed.) http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0521416051/

Australian Susan   Link to this

What a good find, Terry F! Have you put it in Background Reading for future reference? (like when I have some money for books and want to browse some titles!!)

Pedro   Link to this

This year's show.

Davidson in her biography of Catherine...

"Charles, Catherine and the Queen mother had intended to see the Lord Mayor's Show this year, a function the extremely fashionable and frequented. It was held together with a great banquet. But , though Catherine was specially anxious to see this novel entertainment for the first time, it was considered best to stay at home after all, as there were disturbances rumoured in the city."

Terry Foreman   Link to this

The Lord Mayor's Show was originally held every year on the day of the Feast of St Simon and St Jude, which as everyone knows is 28 October. It stayed that way until 1751, when Britain adopted the Gregorian Calendar.
http://www.lordmayorsshow.org/history/dates

Terry Foreman   Link to this

Updating the links Michael Robinson posted on 30 Oct 2005 (above)

Lord Mayor's Day / Show

The show continues today, though in Pepy's time it took place on the Thames.

http://www.lordmayorsshow.org/history/

For a reproduction of the famous Canaletto of the 1747 show and a Hogarth engraving see:-

http://www.lordmayorsshow.org/history/art-and-l...

Log in to post an annotation.

If you don't have an account, then register here.