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meech has posted 28 annotations/comments since 14 December 2014.

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About Friday 1 March 1660/61

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A long delayed response regarding Sam' mother's health...
Instead of hypochondria, which is certainly a possibility, I have wondered if the poor thing was actually very sick with something, possibly terminal, and no one seemed to be taking it seriously. Not that anything could have been done about it if that were the case. She apparently had the same problem as Sam with stones, and did pass away a short five years after this entry. Brings to mind the popular headstone epitaph: "I told you I was sick!"

About Sunday 24 February 1660/61

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Regarding "drunkenness"...
It's a matter of degrees, I think. In my parent's youth, the 30's and 40's, the alcohol flowed freely, and I'm talking about the hard stuff. No Cab or Chardonnay for them. Probably a reaction to Prohibition. Although from stories they've told it doesn't sound like there was much lessening of the flow even then. Having several high balls was fine as long as you could "handle your liquor". Looking back now I'm surprised at how much they drank, so by today's standards they and Sam imbibed overmuch, but in his case, that's all he had to drink. My parents generation didn't have that excuse. However he does occasionally overdo it, and has had a few bad mornings where he's been repentant, but in his mind this probably does not make him a drunkard. A 'drunkard' and 'drunkenness' may be something much worse to him than just having a hangover.

About Wednesday 12 December 1660

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Never mind! I just re-read the passage. It was her children Pepys visited, so Lady Batten must still be in Woolwich with Elizabeth waiting for the weather to clear. Though still wondering what Lady Sandwich has to do with any of it.

About Wednesday 12 December 1660

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"Troubled with the absence of my wife."

Now I'm really confused. It was my understanding that Samuel took his wife and Lady Batten to see the wreck of the Assurance. And that due to her fear Lady Batten stayed behind and kept Elizabeth with her when Samuel returned to London. Therefore I was confused when today he goes to visit Lady Batten who has obviously returned, yet Elizabeth is still missing. So I have two questions: Where is Elizabeth and when did Lady Sandwich get involved in this?

About Wednesday 5 December 1660

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AND...although he does sometimes take her with him, he often leaves her somewhere, like his or her parents, and then goes off on his own. But there may be a perfectly good reason for all this. Just not sure what it could be.

About Wednesday 5 December 1660

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A very late response to Mary House regarding SP not taking his wife to the play...

I think it is more that it is either the lifestyle at this point in time or at least Sam's lifestyle not to take his wife with him. As I'm sure you've noticed he takes her very few places. He goes to taverns and drinks with men, (although a few times there's been a wife present), to people's homes, including his family, and dines with them without her, to plays, to promenade Westminster Hall and get the latest gossip, etc., while Elizabeth is presumably at home. As I've said before, he lives as if he were single most of the time, and goes and does as he pleases. I can only hope she also has another life going for her. Or is she at home doing the wash and other household chores all the time?

About Thursday 18 October 1660

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I agree, Ivan. By saying that he was ordering them "against to-morrow morning" gave me the impression that he was ordering them to wear to the executions.

About Tuesday 16 October 1660

meech  •  Link

I agree with Peter: "Consider the last few days from Elizabeth's perspective ......"

If the L&M translation is more accurate..."so home with him and from thence to the Cockpitt" it could mean that he came home and got Elizabeth and went to the play, although he doesn't mention her at all, and then for whatever reason he won't stay. So we are left wondering if he took her with him, if the three of them went, did he leave her there with Moore or by herself, or did she have to come home with him. Either way, his treatment of her comes across as shabby and indifferent. Cavalier, you might say. (Sorry.) But it was considered normal in his time. It was the way of the world up until very recently. And probably still is in some areas.

About Saturday 15 September 1660

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Remember Sam's comment about Charles II causing problems for his staff because he was such an early riser. I believe he said that Charles arose at 5am daily.