Wednesday 26 June 1661

To Westminster about several businesses, then to dine with my Lady at the Wardrobe, taking Dean Fuller along with me; then home, where I heard my father had been to find me about special business; so I took coach and went to him, and found by a letter to him from my aunt that my uncle Robert is taken with a dizziness in his head, so that they desire my father to come down to look after his business, by which we guess that he is very ill, and so my father do think to go to-morrow. And so God’s will be done. [As his heir Pepys appears consolable over his Uncles illness. D.W.]

Back by water to the office, there till night, and so home to my musique and then to bed.

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A. De Araujo   Link to this

"And so God's will" when combined with uncle Robert's will one gets the best of both worlds.

vicente   Link to this

Another session missed at the Society by Our Man. Evelyn doth record for the 26th "Tried more Vipers and poysond arrows to dogs &c: but they succeeded not:"

Australian Susan   Link to this

Vivisection
Did anyone care at this time about the cruelty to the dogs the Royal Society used in their experiments? Or was this just a 19th century developed sensibility?
Does this take us back to the slavery type discussions?

Ruben   Link to this

vivisection:
before Mickey Mouse there was a clear distinction between animals and Men. When animals began to sing and speak and dance, they changed their Public Image and stance.
I remember how my teacher at a secondary school(1955) opened the head of a dove and with a small spoon took out the cerebellum, just to show us how it could not fly whitout that part of the brain.
In the 60', when learning Medicine, I remember the sacrifice of scores of more or less irrational living creatures. One of the more potent ways to teach a student how an heart works is by a "preparation" (first described by Prof Sterling, or Stirling?), made by taking the heart and lungs out of a living dog (without the rest) and measuring pressure and pulse. This contraption will "work" for a few days, if given glucose and Oxigen.
My first visit to Barcelona in 1959, included the Plaza de Toros. I am ashamed to this day to have been part of the public. Still, today it is Sunday and in Spain 20 or 40 bulls will be sacrificed just for fun... and not, at least, for science.
Today, Sunday, millions in the West, take their guns, rifles, fishing rods, and go out to kill animals, just for the atavic pleasure of the kill, and not because their are hungry. And this is the XXI century.

Alan Bedford   Link to this

Vivisection

Let's not go there....

JWB   Link to this

A Roman road runs through it...
Huntingdonshire, seat of the dying Robert and Sam's birthplace, as well as Cambridgeshire ("Descended from ye antient family of Pepys of Cottenham in Cambridgeshire."-Sam's words)were long Roman. I've ancestors from that neck of the woods named "Titus". Pepys or the two syllable variant "Pepis" sounds Roman to me too. Has there ever been a determination of the source of Sam's surname?

vicente   Link to this

Roman and older roads of Cam:Tracing Ermine Street
Thiefstreet must be the strangest of the many names borne by parts of the old Roman road that bisected the county on its way from London to York. For centuries an important route, records show that Edward the Confessor regarded it as one of four royal roads that has been known since mediaeval times as Ermine Street.
It changes its name eight times between entering Cambridgeshire at Royston, and reaching the all-important crossing of the River Great Ouse at Huntingdon. Further northwards it becomes the A1 with more changes and finally leaves the county as a footpath skirting Burghley Park to the east of Stamford.
http://www.cambridgeshirelife.co.uk/?id=1375
also via devana [a14 a45] crosses near by and then there is the Ichfield way [ lots of google for roman roads and ermine.]

Wim van der Meij   Link to this

JWB's question:
Maybe we've been there, but something about the origin of Sam's name is here:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~pepys/...

Chris Squire UK   Link to this

Wim van der Meij’s link no longer works but a search on the site leads to this:

‘Descendants of Thomas Pepys

First Generation

1. Thomas Pepys 1 was born about 1389 in of, Cottenham, Cambridgeshire, England. Thomas was Bayliffe to the Abbott in 1434 in Crowland, Cambridgeshire, England.

According to Arthur Bryant: "for two hundred and fifty years the Abbey of Crowland was served by Pepizes, as Reeves, rent collectors, haywards, granators."

"The first Pepys of whom I have been able to find any record is Thomas Pepys said on the authority of the Court Rolls of the manor of Pelhams in Cottenham Cambridgshire to have been "bayliffe to the Abbot of Crowland,. in the 12th Henry VI (A.D. 1434). It is probably therefore that he was born in the latter part of the preceeding century, or toward the end of the reign of Richard II. Of his son Robert nothing is recorded further than that he was of Cottenham."
From: the genealogy given by P. H. Pepys esq. published in "Diary and Correspondence of Samuel Pepys esg" by Rev Mynors Bright. Dodd, Mead and Co, NY 1889. (Written in 1876).

Neither W C Pepys or E Chappel include this Thomas and both agree that even his son Robert must be considered apocryphal . . ‘

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.co...

which links to

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.co...

where you’ll find our man.

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