From Assistant-Shipwright under Christopher Pett at Woolwich in 1662, "Anthony Deane rose to become Master-Shipwright (Portsmouth) in 1668, and Navy Commissioner and knight in 1675....The 30 ships he built under the act of 1677 Pepys regarded as the best in the world: Naval Minutes, p. 227." L&M, iii.170.n.1.
Thanks, Australian Susan: I wanted to recall to us one of Sam's first experiences of the fruits of going beyond guidance to the "mastery" to which Xjy rightly refers, and how it is whown at the start of this day. And thank you, A.S., for *your* post on the wives and the Portsmouth trip: contra what some said then, as I recall, Sam wasn't planning a tryst at all (or at least primarily).
"Anthony Deane, [31.7.1662] Assistant-Shipwright at Woolich, was to become a distinguished naval architect and a close friend of Pepys." L&M: iii.151.n.1.
"reading Mr. Holland's discourse of the Navy, lent me by Mr. Turner, and am much pleased with them, they hitting the very diseases of the Navy, which we are troubled with now- a-days. I shall bestow writing of them over and much reading thereof.”
L&M note: “John Hollond (Surveyor of the Navy, 1649-52) had written two discourses on naval administration (dated 1638 and 1659) dealing with abuses in victualling, dead-pays, misuse of stores etc. The second (much the fuller) had been revised in 1661 and dedicated to the Duke of York. Both now circulated in MS [samizdat]….Pepys had copies made of each and had them bound [18 Dec.1662]….The second seems to have been made from Coventry’s copy now at Longleat. There is also a copy of the first discourse (in three clerical hands) in Pepys’s papers in Rawl…. For Pepys’ use of them, see below, ix.[1668] 489 and n. 2. They were published for the first time by Dr. J. R. Tanner in 1896 for the Naval Records Society.” Hollond, John http://www.pepysdiary.com/encyclo…
We first saw Mr. Hollond (also misspelled “Holland”) as an activist in “rightsizing” the Navy, Fri 30 Nov,1660, after the King was brought back from Holland. “Sir G. Carteret did give us an account how Mr. Holland [sic]…intend[ed] to prevail with the Parliament to try his project of discharging the seamen all at present by ticket, and so promise interest to all men that will lend money upon them at eight per cent, for so long as they are unpaid; whereby he do think to take away the growing debt, which do now lie upon the kingdom for lack of present money to discharge the seamen. http://www.pepysdiary.com/diary/1… Early the following week, the Navy Office presented a 50% cash/ 50% in four months compromise to the Duke of York; Pepys’s written version of the proposal presented to the others “was well liked…, and I wrote it fair for Sir. G. Carteret to show to the King, and so it is to go to the Parliament.” http://www.pepysdiary.com/diary/1… The paying the remaining ships began that Thursday. http://www.pepysdiary.com/diary/1… (Sorry for the size of this post.)
"much simple talk with [W. Bowyer]" I take it that "simple" here is not derogatory. but of the genre of "instances of the simple light discourse that sometimes is in the Parliament House" = slightly off-color humor, banter: see http://www.pepysdiary.com/diary/1…
"Sir W. Batten being come to town last night" Robert Gertz, Ha! the sudden return to town of Sir W. Batten was almost presaged (and is overshadowed) by your stunning fancy of the sudden return from Ireland yesterday of the other Sir W., unwitting (and likely unwilling) host of the Pepys family, sqatters. http://www.pepysdiary.com/diary/1…
Balm and a good Shiraz. Culpeper's not keeping Sam 'on the wagon' (as we say in the 'States - long offer-topic story): "Diascorides saith, That the Leaves steeped in Wine, and the Wine drunk, and the Leavs externally applied is a remedy against the sting of Scorpions, and the bitings of mad Dogs, and commendeth the Decoction therof for Women to bath or sit in to procure their Courses; it is good to wash aching Teeth therwith and profitable for those that have the bloody Flux. The Leaves also with a little Nitre taken in Drink, are good against a Surfet of Mushromes, helps the griping pains of the Belly and being made into an Electuary is good for them that cannot fetch their breath:" [deep breathing, preferably over a commode, lid upstanding, of course]
Dirk, great source! Culpepper declines to describe many herbs, other plants, trees, etc., because, as he says about "balm": "This Herb is so wel known to be an Inhabitant almost in every Garden, that I shal not need to write any Description thereof." I wonder to what extent his 17c Readers and you 21c Annotaters* who have lived in England have a shared familiarity with these flora, many alien to me. (Ironic that the first one he is careful to describe, "GARDEN BAZIL or SWEET BAZIL," is one I learned to grow in my years in Connecticut among Italian-Americans.) *"Annotaters" = Not tubers, but not all males.
LAF, a very suggestive interpretation: Sam who would control, his Sabbath oaths as spell; perhaps by naming his faults, he exorcises them. If he were a disciple of Francis Bacon, as he seems to be, he would believe that knowledge is power, and that the reliable source of knowledge is experience/experiment; and so the Diary itself can be seen from this perspective as a tool to gain power over himself through self-knowledge.
Sandwich itself, the northernmost of the original Cinque ["sink"] Ports, whose title Montagu assumed as Earl; A Brief History [& map] of the Cinque Ports: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cinq…
"John Holland (Surveyor of the Navy, 1649-52 [and thereafter involved in other ways in Navy business, e.g. in paying of ships and the politics thereof in times of fiscal shortage]) had written two discourses on naval administration (dated 1638 and 1659) dealing with abuses in victualling, dead-pays, misuse of stores etc. The second (much the fuller) had been revised in 1661 and dedicated to the Duke of York. Both now circulated in MS [samizdat].... Pepys had copies made of each and had them bound:.... For Pepys' use of them, see below, ix. 489 and n. 2. They were published for the first time by Dr. J. R. Tanner in 1896 for the Naval Records Society." L&M, iii. 145, n.1:
"for her keys being out of the way" Yes, A. De Araujo, and that we cut off the hands of those who fail to put things back in their places (which is why I am unhanded).
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About Anthony Deane
Terry F. • Link
From Assistant-Shipwright under Christopher Pett at Woolwich in 1662, "Anthony Deane rose to become Master-Shipwright (Portsmouth) in 1668, and Navy Commissioner and knight in 1675....The 30 ships he built under the act of 1677 Pepys regarded as the best in the world: Naval Minutes, p. 227." L&M, iii.170.n.1.
A short biography of Sir Anthony Deane
http://www.rina.org.uk/showarticl…
Portrait of Sir Anthony Deane
http://www.nmm.ac.uk/mag/pages/mn…
About Friday 25 July 1662
Terry F. • Link
Thanks, Australian Susan: I wanted to recall to us one of Sam's first experiences of the fruits of going beyond guidance to the "mastery" to which Xjy rightly refers, and how it is whown at the start of this day.
And thank you, A.S., for *your* post on the wives and the Portsmouth trip: contra what some said then, as I recall, Sam wasn't planning a tryst at all (or at least primarily).
About Anthony Deane
Terry F. • Link
"Anthony Deane, [31.7.1662] Assistant-Shipwright at Woolich, was to become a distinguished naval architect and a close friend of Pepys." L&M: iii.151.n.1.
About Friday 25 July 1662
Terry F. • Link
"reading Mr. Holland's discourse of the Navy, lent me by Mr. Turner, and am much pleased with them, they hitting the very diseases of the Navy, which we are troubled with now- a-days. I shall bestow writing of them over and much reading thereof.”
L&M note: “John Hollond (Surveyor of the Navy, 1649-52) had written two discourses on naval administration (dated 1638 and 1659) dealing with abuses in victualling, dead-pays, misuse of stores etc. The second (much the fuller) had been revised in 1661 and dedicated to the Duke of York. Both now circulated in MS [samizdat]….Pepys had copies made of each and had them bound [18 Dec.1662]….The second seems to have been made from Coventry’s copy now at Longleat. There is also a copy of the first discourse (in three clerical hands) in Pepys’s papers in Rawl…. For Pepys’ use of them, see below, ix.[1668] 489 and n. 2. They were published for the first time by Dr. J. R. Tanner in 1896 for the Naval Records Society.” Hollond, John http://www.pepysdiary.com/encyclo…
We first saw Mr. Hollond (also misspelled “Holland”) as an activist in “rightsizing” the Navy, Fri 30 Nov,1660, after the King was brought back from Holland. “Sir G. Carteret did give us an account how Mr. Holland [sic]…intend[ed] to prevail with the Parliament to try his project of discharging the seamen all at present by ticket, and so promise interest to all men that will lend money upon them at eight per cent, for so long as they are unpaid; whereby he do think to take away the growing debt, which do now lie upon the kingdom for lack of present money to discharge the seamen. http://www.pepysdiary.com/diary/1…
Early the following week, the Navy Office presented a 50% cash/ 50% in four months compromise to the Duke of York; Pepys’s written version of the proposal presented to the others “was well liked…, and I wrote it fair for Sir. G. Carteret to show to the King, and so it is to go to the Parliament.” http://www.pepysdiary.com/diary/1… The paying the remaining ships began that Thursday. http://www.pepysdiary.com/diary/1…
(Sorry for the size of this post.)
About Thursday 24 July 1662
Terry F. • Link
Nor information: "after much simple talk with him, I left him, and to my office"
About Thursday 24 July 1662
Terry F. • Link
"much simple talk with [W. Bowyer]"
I take it that "simple" here is not derogatory. but of the genre of "instances of the simple light discourse that sometimes is in the Parliament House" = slightly off-color humor, banter: see http://www.pepysdiary.com/diary/1…
About Thursday 24 July 1662
Terry F. • Link
"Sir W. Batten being come to town last night"
Robert Gertz, Ha! the sudden return to town of Sir W. Batten was almost presaged (and is overshadowed) by your stunning fancy of the sudden return from Ireland yesterday of the other Sir W., unwitting (and likely unwilling) host of the Pepys family, sqatters.
http://www.pepysdiary.com/diary/1…
About Wednesday 23 July 1662
Terry F. • Link
Balm and a good Shiraz.
Culpeper's not keeping Sam 'on the wagon' (as we say in the 'States - long offer-topic story): "Diascorides saith, That the Leaves steeped in Wine, and the Wine drunk, and the Leavs externally applied is a remedy against the sting of Scorpions, and the bitings of mad Dogs, and commendeth the Decoction therof for Women to bath or sit in to procure their Courses; it is good to wash aching Teeth therwith and profitable for those that have the bloody Flux. The Leaves also with a little Nitre taken in Drink, are good against a Surfet of Mushromes, helps the griping pains of the Belly and being made into an Electuary is good for them that cannot fetch their breath:" [deep breathing, preferably over a commode, lid upstanding, of course]
About Wednesday 23 July 1662
Terry F. • Link
Erratum: should be "Culpeper."
About Wednesday 23 July 1662
Terry F. • Link
Dirk, great source! Culpepper declines to describe many herbs, other plants, trees, etc., because, as he says about "balm": "This Herb is so wel known to be an Inhabitant almost in every Garden, that I shal not need to write any Description thereof." I wonder to what extent his 17c Readers and you 21c Annotaters* who have lived in England have a shared familiarity with these flora, many alien to me.
(Ironic that the first one he is careful to describe, "GARDEN BAZIL or SWEET BAZIL," is one I learned to grow in my years in Connecticut among Italian-Americans.)
*"Annotaters" = Not tubers, but not all males.
About Wednesday 23 July 1662
Terry F. • Link
"Brampton Feast"
L&M note: A parish feast....
About Tuesday 22 July 1662
Terry F. • Link
LAF, a very suggestive interpretation: Sam who would control, his Sabbath oaths as spell; perhaps by naming his faults, he exorcises them. If he were a disciple of Francis Bacon, as he seems to be, he would believe that knowledge is power, and that the reliable source of knowledge is experience/experiment; and so the Diary itself can be seen from this perspective as a tool to gain power over himself through self-knowledge.
About Tuesday 22 July 1662
Terry F. • Link
The title, "The Treacherous Goodwins," of the site Pedro furnished, does suggest they aren't exactly a plearure-beach either; but any port....
About Tuesday 22 July 1662
Terry F. • Link
Pedro provided a nice map of the Goodwin Sands in the Background info "Places > Outside London, Downs, The"
http://www.whitecliffscountry.org…
About Monday 21 July 1662
Terry F. • Link
dirk, I get it; sorry: didn't notice the :-)
About Monday 21 July 1662
Terry F. • Link
Aye, dirk! A play on Lynne Truss' punctuation in the title of her best-selling “Eats, Shoots and Leaves” didn't work — for me.
About Sir Edward Mountagu ("my Lord," Earl of Sandwich)
Terry F. • Link
Sandwich itself, the northernmost of the original Cinque ["sink"] Ports, whose title Montagu assumed as Earl; A Brief History [& map] of the Cinque Ports:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cinq…
[Broken link changed on request, from http://www.whitecliffscountry.org… , 2 Oct 2011. P.G.]
About John Hollond
Terry F. • Link
"John Holland (Surveyor of the Navy, 1649-52 [and thereafter involved in other ways in Navy business, e.g. in paying of ships and the politics thereof in times of fiscal shortage]) had written two discourses on naval administration (dated 1638 and 1659) dealing with abuses in victualling, dead-pays, misuse of stores etc. The second (much the fuller) had been revised in 1661 and dedicated to the Duke of York. Both now circulated in MS [samizdat].... Pepys had copies made of each and had them bound:.... For Pepys' use of them, see below, ix. 489 and n. 2. They were published for the first time by Dr. J. R. Tanner in 1896 for the Naval Records Society." L&M, iii. 145, n.1:
About Tuesday 22 July 1662
Terry F. • Link
"for her keys being out of the way"
Yes, A. De Araujo, and that we cut off the hands of those who fail to put things back in their places (which is why I am unhanded).
About Monday 21 July 1662
Terry F. • Link
the expostulation, "good God!? revisited:
while searching for something else I came across one of two previous instances of this:
Thursday 6 June 1661
http://www.pepysdiary.com/diary/1…
Sunday 1 September 1661
http://www.pepysdiary.com/diary/1…
Stolzi, thank you for reminding us that Sam wrote as he spoke — even when he encoded it for the sake of discretion.