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Phil   Link to this

I don't know exactly where Lisson Green is, but the above location is the Lisson Green Estate, which is likely to be in approximately the same area.

Paul Brewster   Link to this

Wheatley footnotes as follows,
"The manor of Lisson Green (Domesday Lilesstone) remained a rural district till the end of the last century [18th?] and Dodsley(1761) describes it as 'a pleasant village near Paddington.'"

language hat   Link to this

Anybody have Hibbert and Weinreb's Encyclopedia of London?
It would be nice to know a little more about what and where Lisson Green was. All I can find online is the mention of Harcourt St. and Homer St. here:
http://www.londonancestor.com/leighs/str-h.htm
Which leads me to suspect it stretched considerably south of the modern Lisson Green Estate.

Paul Brewster   Link to this

Here's a site that includes the Domesday entry for what may have been Lisson greene in a section devoted to Marylebone. Not much help on exact location.

Marylebone - MDX ENG
OS Grid Reference: 51

Paul Brewster   Link to this

Extract from an email from Roger (Arbor)
I thought we had sorted that this was just north of Westminster... these days still in the Westminter 'local government' area. Where now the Regent's Canel runs.....

The Regent's Canal connects Paddington to Limehouse Basin in London's Docklands via Camden, Islington, Hackney and Mile End. The Westminster section runs around the north side of Regent's Park, opposite the zoo. The canal runs through a tunnel between Edgware Road and Lisson Grove.

The easiest way to reach the towing path from Lisson Grove is via the path through the Lisson Green Estate along the south side of the canal and a footbridge just to the west of the railway lines. The Regent's Canal is to become one of the GLA

Bill   Link to this

Lisson Grove, Marylebone Road to Grove Road, St. John's Wood, borrowed its name from the manor of Lisson Green. "Lissham Green," says Dodsley, 1761, "a pleasant village near Paddington." The pleasant village, and even the memory of it, has long passed away, and Lisson Grove is a part of the great metropolis. The manor of Lisson Green, then the property of Captain Lloyd, was sold in lots in 1792.
---London, Past and Present. H.B. Wheatley, 1891.

Terry Foreman   Link to this

Lisson Green is described as a hamlet in the Domesday book in 1086, the edges of the settlement defined by the two current Edgware Road stations facing onto Edgware Road or Watling Street as it was previously known, one of the main Roman thoroughfares in and out of London. Occasionally referred to as Lissom Grove, originally Lisson Grove was part of the medieval manor of Lilestone which stretched as far as Hampstead. Lisson Green as a manor broke away c. 1236 with its own manor house. Paddington Green formed part of the original Lilestone estate

One of Lisson Green village's first attractions would have been the Yorkshire Stingo, a public house probably visited by Samuel Pepys in 1666 on a visit with a flirtatious widow. Stingo was the name of a particular Yorkshire ale.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lisson_Grove#History

Terry Foreman   Link to this

The Yorkshire Stingo is found on (below) the New Road from Padding[ton] that runs east off the left edge of this map.
http://www.motco.com/map/81001/SeriesSearchPlat...

Terry Foreman   Link to this

Most of Lisson Green/Grove is found around St John's Wood east of Edgeware Road north of Paddington Green,
east of the prior map,
http://www.motco.com/map/81001/SeriesSearchPlat...

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