Wednesday 7 May 1662

Walked to Westminster; where I understand the news that Mr. Montagu is this last night come to the King with news, that he left the Queen and fleet in the Bay of Biscay, coming this wayward; and that he believes she is now at the Isle of Scilly. So at noon to my Lord Crew’s and there dined, and after dinner Sir Thos. Crew and I talked together, and among other instances of the simple light discourse that sometimes is in the Parliament House, he told me how in the late business of Chymny money, when all occupiers were to pay, it was questioned whether women were under that name to pay, and somebody rose and said that they were not occupiers, but occupied. Thence to Paul’s Church Yard; where seeing my Lady’s Sandwich and Carteret, and my wife (who this day made a visit the first time to my Lady Carteret), come by coach, and going to Hide Park, I was resolved to follow them; and so went to Mrs. Turner’s: and thence found her out at the Theatre, where I saw the last act of the “Knight of the Burning Pestle,” which pleased me not at all. And so after the play done, she and The. Turner and Mrs. Lucin and I, in her coach to the Park; and there found them out, and spoke to them; and observed many fine ladies, and staid till all were gone almost. And so to Mrs. Turner’s, and there supped, and so walked home, and by and by comes my wife home, brought by my Lady Carteret to the gate, and so to bed.

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N Pedro on Sat 7 May 2005, 11:03pm

“Mr. Montagu is this last night come to the King with news, that he left the Queen and fleet in the Bay of Biscay, coming this wayward; and that he believes she is now at the Isle of Scilly.”

According to the Portuguese historian Rau
N dirk on Sat 7 May 2005, 11:17pm

John Evelyn’s diary: he’s experimenting again…

“I waited on Prince Rupert to our Assembly, where we tried severall experiments in Mr. Boyles Vaccuum: a man thrusting in his arme, upon exhaustion of the ayre had his flesh immediatly swelled, so as the bloud was neere breaking the vaines, & unsufferable: he drawing it out, we found it all speckled: …”
N Bradford on Sat 7 May 2005, 11:43pm

“somebody rose and said that they were not occupiers, but occupied.”

Cue the rim-shot. Some jokes don’t change, or get any better, with the passage of centuries.
N Cumgranissalis on Sun 8 May 2005, 02:46am

Message from the King.
Sir Heneage Finch, his Majesty’s Solicitor General, reports from the Conference, That the Lords did acquaint them, that they had received a Message from his Majesty, intimating, That he had received News of the Queen’s approaching near the English Coast: and of his Majesty’s Intent, upon the first Notice of her landing, to set forward to receive her: And therefore desired, that they would lay aside all private Business, and apply themselves wholly to the Publick, that they may be the sooner ready to rise.

From: ‘House of Commons Journal Volume 8: 7 May 1662’, Journal of the House of Commons: volume 8: 1660-1667 (1802), pp. 422-23.
URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.asp?compid=26514. Date accessed: 08 May 2005.
N Cumgranissalis on Sun 8 May 2005, 03:03am

Ds. Crewe be seated in the chamber would be be privy to this:and the passsage of conforming to the correct form of worship:[hear they be discussing the correct word, to get the correct meaning of thought] and here is the :
Message from the King, about Dispatch of Public Business.
His Royal Highness the Duke of Yorke acquainted this House from the King, “That He hath received lately Information, that the Queen is likely to arrive in England very speedlly; and it is His Majesty’s Intention to give His Royal Assent to those Public Bills as are depending between the Two Houses before His going to meet the Queen; therefore He desires, that their Lordships will take it into Consideration, and give a speedy Dispatch to those Public Businesses as are depending before their Lordships ; and, in order thereunto, that all Private Businesses may be laid aside.”
Which this House ordered accordingly.
ORDERED, That this Message from the King be communicated to the House of Commons, at a Conference, presently; and to acquaint them with their Lordships Resolution herein

From: ‘House of Lords Journal Volume 11: 7 May 1662’, Journal of the House of Lords: volume 11: 1660-1666, pp. 446-50. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.asp?compid=14278. Date accessed: 08 May 2005.
And for those that argue over the ins and ons[or outs] of an English phrase’ the above site of the Lauds could be a good read;
N Mary on Sun 8 May 2005, 07:43am

Times and places.

According to notes in the L&M edition, Edward Mountagu, on board the Princess, left the fleet on 26th April to bring the news of the new queen’s approach.

Though reported here to be near the Isles of Scilly, the queen was actually off St. Michael’s Mount at this point.
N Australian Susan on Sun 8 May 2005, 08:34am

Knight of the Burning Pestle
Another Beaumont and Fletcher collaboration from 1607. See more at http://www.stanford.edu/~bkunde/fb-press/articles/rpkbp.html
N Pedro on Sun 8 May 2005, 03:42pm

The Journey, Times and Places.

I am glad that I am not the only one that has trouble with the calendar dates. The Historians Rau, Strickland and Davidson all agree that the Queen sailed on the 25th April, and arrives on a certain day; however Ollard in his biography of Sandwich says that he sailed on the 15th April, and arrived at the same time as the others!

Davidson and Rau give the same detailed account of the journey, I give a summary if anyone is interested up to the point that Mary quotes at St. Mount
N Cumgranissalis on Sun 8 May 2005, 07:22pm

‘tis the way the wind doth blow. Need to pick up the Sou. Westers.
N Cumgranissalis on Sun 8 May 2005, 07:55pm

Prevailing weather off English South Coast.
Typical winds be 10 to 14 Knots
http://www.metoffice.com/climate/uk/location/southwestengland/wind.html

If one looks at this weather map [today?] a person can visualize the route. One must tack out to sea, in order to prevent being driven onto the French home seas thus become ransom bait.
Note todays wind be from the Nor’ west, it will be different when thou reads it.[‘tis updated often]

http://www.metoffice.com/satpics/latest_IR.html
N Cumgranissalis on Sun 8 May 2005, 08:06pm

” On reaching the coast of France,” that be OK on a Civilised day. Very dangerous to sail close to France. Besides the prevailing winds would drive the Ships into coastal Rocks,one needs elboe room to maneuverer without getting busted up or dining in a nice guarded wine cellar.
N Robert Gertz on Sun 8 May 2005, 08:12pm

“…not occupiers but occupied…” Appreciative titter through the House, though a few do frown at such frivolity.

Hmmn…Something tells me this will not be the last sexist joke made in Parliament.

Interesting depiction of Elisabeth’s freedom…She visits Lady Carteret on her own (though more than suitably chaperoned by Lady Jem Sr.), Sam follows after (but after a leisurely side trip to find Jane Turner and hitch a coach ride that ends…Naturally…at the theater), heads off in her coach only to catch them in passing in Hyde Park, say hi, and head off to supper at Cousin Jane’s presumably without Beth who comes home at a rather late hour after a fine day of partying with miladies. I think we can grant that Sam was naturally nervous to see if things were going well-Carteret being Treasurer and all.

What’s also interesting here is that Sam didn’t mention the invite before…One would think he’d be a bit nervous as to how Bethie would make out, offering advice until she snapped at him, etc…
N Pauline on Mon 9 May 2005, 12:34am

“Sam didn
N Robert Gertz on Tue 10 May 2005, 03:32am

Sam slips into “Knight of the Burning Pestle…”

“Pardon me, ‘cuse me…Pardon me. Sorry, just in to see my cousin.” Ah…Spies Cousin Jane and The.

The in midst of making rude comment on the acting and story.

“Sam’l?”

“Ah…Cousin Jane. The.”

“Hey, welcome to the worst play in London, Peepsie.”

“Saw the worst in London last week, Thesie.”

“Cousin Jane. Bess is out with Lady Carteret and my good Lady Jem. Any chance we could scoot over to Hyde Park in your rig and see how they’re getting on? Not that I’m out of my wits with fear she’ll make some disasterous faux pas…” Sam gives dear Cousin Jane eager puppy look…

The makes bratty joke regarding our poor Bess among the great ladies.
N Cumgranissalis on Tue 10 May 2005, 09:18pm

for those that must know the meaning of ?
Knight of the Burning Pestle
http://www.bibliomania.com/0/6/1/1970
http://www.ex.ac.uk/%7Epellison/BF/pestle/frameset.htm

http://www.gutenberg.org/files/4134/old/sp19g10.txt
N language hat on Wed 11 May 2005, 07:34pm

Knight of the Burning Pestle:
I have been told, though I do not know how accurately, that at the time the word “pestle” was pronounced like “pizzle,” hence the title is a not-so-subtle double entendre.
N Australian Susan on Wed 11 May 2005, 11:02pm

Double Entendre
Yes, I was taught it was a feeble (in our eyes, but maybe not in the 16th and 17th centuries) pun when I studied B & F at University. Wonder if the bawdiness offended Sam when in the company of ladies or if he just found watching the end of the play boring: it is certainly not one of B & F’s better works.
N Christodoulos on Fri 20 Jul 2007, 04:53pm

Cool.