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Saturday 30 November 1661

In the morning to the Temple, Mr. Philips and Dr. Williams about my several law matters, and so to the Wardrobe to dinner, and after dinner stole away, my Lady not dining out of her chamber, and so home and then to the office all the afternoon, and that being done Sir W. Batten and I and Captain Cock got a bottle of sack into the office, and there we sat late and drank and talked, and so home and to bed. I am this day in very good health, only got a little cold. The Parliament has sat a pretty while. The old condemned judges of the late King have been brought before the Parliament, and like to be hanged. I am deep in Chancery against Tom Trice, God give a good issue; and myself under great trouble for my late great expending of money vainly, which God stop for the future. This is the last day for the old State’s coyne1 to pass in common payments, but they say it is to pass in publique payments to the King three months still.

  1. In a speech of Lord Lucas in the House of Lords, the 22nd February, 1670-1 (which speech was burnt by the common hangman), he thus adverted to that coin: “It is evident that there is scarcity of money; for all the parliament’s money called breeches (a fit stamp for the coin of the Rump) is wholly vanished—the king’s proclamation and the Dutch have swept it all away, and of his now majesty’s coin there appears but very little; so that in effect we have none left for common use, but a little old lean coined money of the late three former princes. And what supply is preparing for it, my lords? I hear of none, unless it be of copper farthings, and this is the metal that is to vindicate, according to the inscription on it, the dominion of the four seas.”—Quoted in Penn’s “Memorials of Sir Wm. Penn,” ii. 264.

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  • “…got a bottle of sack into the office, and there we sat late and drank”

    sounds like a great place to work!

  • only got a little cold. Does he mean physically or that he had a runny nose? Was this aliment recongnized then?

  • “This is the last day for the old State

  • “myself under great trouble for my late great expending of money vainly, which God stop for the future”

    Delayed reaction? See comments for Nov. 23 & 24.

  • Coins of the Inter-Regnum [not the revolution [shush never happened] but a period of time missing between the charlies I & II{ or was it really II and II {vacation without pay}}] was a dastardly reminder of a time when it was so straight laced, and not enough raw metals to create new idols in order to create monies, although the Mint was a working full tilt. There be some inflation in the works for foodstuffs. therefore monies needed to circulate like muck [mis quote of Sir F. Bacon]

    see currency: for more info
    http://www.pepysdiary.com/p/316.php
    Liza Picard ( Restoration London P144
    Foreign coins were in frequent use at this time. A Proclamation, January 29th, 1660-61, declared certain foreign gold and silver coins to be current at certain rates. The rate of the ducatoon was at 5s. 9d


  • A sin every one can relate too, money it doth burn a weee hole in ones privey purse:”…great expending of money vainly…”

  • Is it just me or is Vicente a tad difficult to understand on occasions?

  • Sometimes Vicente is even easier to understand than at other times.

  • Dining at the Wardrobe
    While I realize that Sam’s main purpose to dine at the Wardrobe so often is to visit Lady Mountagu, it seems to me that Sam might be saving money by dining so often at the Wardrobe. Especially as Vincente mentions that “There be some inflation in the works for foodstuffs.” I remember reading some time back that in 19th century America that the cost of food could consume 60% of one’s income.

  • Vicente

    Vicente is an All Original.

  • Maestro Vincente IS in the room. He IS listening. You may address your remarks directly to him.

    Can’t we, Vincente?

  • Throughout this period, there was a shortage of small change, as the smallest coins weren’t profitable to make (i.e. a quarter of a penny = a “farthing”). One result of this was that many taverns produced their own tokens that could be spent on their food and drink, and were often accepted in the shops in the immediate locality. Technically, this was a serious crime but was overlooked by the authorities as it filled an economic need.

    http://www.channel4.com/history/microsites/H/history/guide17/part02.html

  • “He IS listening. You may address your remarks directly to him.” a: remove the GR in my address and enticing line in the subject [ham not spam] box. And I will try to unravel my disconnected thoughts.
    ” by dining so often at the Wardrobe” It might also be, that Sam does not enjoy burnt offerings from the Maids that be rotating and must get use to the Jack {spit for the warmin’ up left overs}or split pea soup that be over cooked?.

  • Professor Stanley Unwin couldn’t have put it better.

  • The last day for the old State

  • “after dinner stole away”
    I took this to mean that Sam departed discreetly because he had to get back to work and he didn’t want to draw attention to the household that he has around - he seems to be hoping that as “My lady” dined in her own chamber, she might not know he’d even been there. Or did Sam have another reason for not wanting to spend time with “My Lady” ??

  • “to the Wardrobe to dinner”

    Perhaps there be more powerful gods at the Wardrobe than those apt to receive the ‘burnt offerings’ at the hearthen altar. …Sorry.

  • Coinage.

  • re; Inflation : from the Rev Jocelyn;
    No: 17.” A very cold day, yet something cheerful; god good to us in the mercies of my family, my child Jane up and down with us again, lord let us live to keep thy word, a dear time for corn. rye 7s. and wheat 8s.6d. per bushel, but few consider the famine of the word, and yet men loath the ordinances of god.”
    http://linux02.lib.cam.ac.uk/earlscolne//diary/70013275.htm

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