Monday 18 November 1661

Annotations

• N daniel on Thu 18 Nov 2004, 11:04pm

  “and am sorry to see things done so out of order”

  what is Sam sorry to see? poor idle people watching choristers going to prayers?

• N RexLeo on Thu 18 Nov 2004, 11:30pm

  “… and there I received 50l. more, which make up 100l.”

  Sam is borrowing quite a bit and quite often. No wonder he is sleepless at night fretting over his finances.

• N Pedro. on Thu 18 Nov 2004, 11:48pm

  “that had got himself drunk before dinner, which troubled me to see”

  Was it the fact that he was a Parson that troubled Sam, or the fact that the young man could not hold his booze?
  “and at noon left them, and with my head full of wine,”…see…
  http://www.pepysdiary.com/archive/1661/11/06/index.php#annotations

• N Bradford on Thu 18 Nov 2004, 11:50pm

  Go on, guess who wrote “Philaster”!

  Beaumont & Fletcher’s “PHILASTER or LOVE LIES BLEEDING was probably produced in London about 1608.”

  To read the entire farrago of a plot, go to:

  http://www.theatrehistory.com/british/beaumont002.html

  Despite the title, ends with wedding bells all round.

• N Pauline on Fri 19 Nov 2004, 12:36am

  Philaster, or Love Lies a-Bleeding
  This is the play that Sam starred in as a young boy of about nine. He was taken on a visit to Durdans by John and Anne Pepys. The house party staged the play—commonly done in the days of no public playhouses. He took the part of the beautiful woman, Arethusa, Philaster falls in love with and marries in the end. “He learnt his part so well that he could still remember almost every word trenty-five years later.” This quote from Claire Tomalin’s biography.

• N Australian Susan on Fri 19 Nov 2004, 03:47am

  “things done so out of order”
  I took this to mean that the whole manner of conducting the service was inharmonius, badly managed, poorly done, with people unsure what to do when and so on. For someone who takes a pride in doing his work well, with everything done as it should be, and who likes everything about his house to be neat and working well,Sam would find a service in a shambles very distasteful. Also note the use of the word “drunk”. Sam definitely seems to be making a distinction between him and his friends being “very merry” and someone today being “drunk” - so my assumption yesterday of disastrous hangover today was ill-founded - word sense wrong!

• N vicente on Fri 19 Nov 2004, 04:29am

  Tainted maybe by Roman church influence “saw the quiristers in their surplices going to prayers, and a few idle poor people and boys to hear them, which is the first time I have seen them, and am sorry to see things done so out of order”
  Besides which, going into the church out of the cold and damp how darstardly? Not for the Chant I be sure.

• N vicente on Fri 19 Nov 2004, 04:37am

  Rabby Burns did say later to the effect ’ oh! to have the gift to see our selves as others see us’
  none of us want that.
  “… There was a young Parson at the table that had got himself drunk before dinner, which troubled me to see…”