Sunday 3 March 1660/61

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• N A. De Araujo on Wed 3 Mar 2004, 11:21pm

  “imaginacions of the tthoughts of man’s heart being only evil” sounds Calvinist to me…

• N vincent on Thu 4 Mar 2004, 12:39am

  this day in Essex Rev Josselyn did record :
  “… a great flood this day. god good in the word, my heart panting to be good. yes blessed be god who helps me to say. I am not wicked….”
  3.3.1661 (Sunday 3 March 1661)
  document 70012955
  http://linux02.lib.cam.ac.uk/earlscolne/dates/1661.htm#3.3.1661

• N Pauline on Thu 4 Mar 2004, 12:58am

  “I did give up the mortgage made to me by Sir R. Parkhurst for 2,000l”
  Anyone clear on this? Not giving it up as not pursuable but as handing it over?? Paperwork finally in order and given into Montagu/Sandwich’s hand?

• N Louis Anthony Scarsdale on Thu 4 Mar 2004, 01:41am

  Perhaps Pepys appreciates sermons more for their rhetorical and dramatic impact, as opposed to acceding to their doctrinal import?

• N dirk on Thu 4 Mar 2004, 02:06am

  Mortgage

  Re - Pauline

  More details here:
  http://www.pepysdiary.com/p/1660.php#c9221
  

• N vincent on Thu 4 Mar 2004, 03:41am

  “…Mr. Woodcocke preached at our church a very good sermon…”
  may be it was this that set off our SP.
  Genesis chapter 6 verse 5 we read,
  5 And Yahweh saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagining of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
  Every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
  Here is our enemy. The word translated as heart here indicates the center of a thing and is sometimes translated as midst. So, what we see here in the 6th chapter of Genesis is that the imaginations of the thoughts that come from the center of man are evil. Now this is talking about the inner man not the artificial outward show that we put on for others, but the real self, the innermost seat of intellect and emotion.
  one version

  http://www.marknehemiah.com/gorrells/Ecc.Ex.HeartOfMan.html

  How to deal with evil thoughts.
  (Gen 6:5 KJV) “And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.”

  Notice here that we are dealing with the wickedness of man, our own thoughts, our flesh. We are not dealing with the demonic, we are dealing with our fallen nature. It is popular to blame every problem on the Devil and take the focus off the real issue, our sinful nature. It’s popular because it appeals to our pride and that is the taproot of the fallen man. We must crucify the flesh here, not wage “spiritual warfare”.
  http://www.imagination-institute.com/whatthe.htm

• N kilroy on Thu 4 Mar 2004, 05:46am

  OT - 2 days old - Tom Ha[y]ter’s title

  I’m not certain if “title” is the best word. But in the background info I see that TH is, with SP’s assitance, eventualy made:

  Petty Purveyor of Petty Missions

  I’m certain it sounded impressive at the time…
  

• N The Bishop on Thu 4 Mar 2004, 09:50am

  Date of Mazarin’s death
  Look up Mazarin on a French site, and it will tell you he died on “9 mars”. That would mean he died on March 9 by the *Gregorian* calendar.

  Pepys, in England, is dating his entries according to the *Julian* calendar - so for him Mazarin died February 27th. I’m surprised the editors would make such a basic slip.

• N Peter on Thu 4 Mar 2004, 11:17am

  Very interesting point from The Bishop.
  “Gregorian slips”… people (historians) must be in constant danger of making them when looking at events across borders.

• N Rich Merne on Thu 4 Mar 2004, 01:44pm

  Four days for the news to travel from Vincennes to London and important news too, so it would have been as it were, ‘special delivery’. Probably two days in France, one in England and one for the channel, interesting

• N Lawrence on Thu 4 Mar 2004, 02:32pm

  The two Calendars in operation at this time are easy to forget, leading to most people at one time or another forgetting them, per L&M. “Cardinal Mazarin died on the 28 February/9 March.
  The news did not appear in the news-books until 11th of March; Kingd. Intell., 11march,p.149”

• N David A. Smith on Thu 4 Mar 2004, 02:36pm

  “Mazarin

• N Glyn on Thu 4 Mar 2004, 05:52pm

  So presumably Pepys decided to attend the service at Westminster Abbey rather than go home because he knew he would be staying at the Montague

• N upper_left_hand_corner on Thu 4 Mar 2004, 06:45pm

  Vincent — not sure which translation of Genesis you’re using, but usually the tetragrammaton YHWH is translated as LORD (Jews read it aloud as “Adonai”), and Elohim is translated as God. The two terms carry an immense amount of biblical scholarship as baggage, indicating probably background of the authors (kingdom of Judea vs. kingdom of Israel) as well as time of original transcription from oral tradition. It is also interesting that the method of referring to the Supreme Being can change from chapter to chapter.

  My scholarship here is quite rusty except for having some recollection that Deuteronomy (Book 5!) was probably the first book to be written down, pre-Lost 10 tribes and pre-first-exile, and the other 4 were “discovered” during or just after the first exile.

  To bring this comment back into relevance, I should point out that the Protestant movement in Pepys’ time (and still today) is wrestling with all kinds of conflicting interpretations of the Hebrew Scriptures that had been the province of the clergy only, pre-Reformation.

• N Hic Retarius on Thu 4 Mar 2004, 07:28pm

  Savants:

  Opiniones hodiernas ut hesternas, professores ut philolgos, mea maxima gratia! Hic retearius eruditus est.
  

• N indoctus on Thu 4 Mar 2004, 08:44pm

  As our Gladiator friend did say, opinions are a dime a dozen, thanks to all the teachers et. al. from sine erudito.
  hic http://www.gladiatorschool.tv/retiarius.htm
  P.S. there are so many variations of translations , ‘tis why the levellers did not win.

• N Andrew Hamilton on Thu 4 Mar 2004, 08:57pm

  Mazarin

  On following Vincent’s link regarding Mazarin I was fascinated to learn that the Cardinal had not one but seven nieces, including (at least) two royal mistresses (Maria Mancini, mistress of Louis XIV and Hortense Mancini, Duchesse de Mazarin, mistress of Charles II of England) and one probable royal mistress (Olympe Mancini, Countess of Soissons, mother of Louis XIV’s reputed bastard Princ Eugene, Marlborough’s collaborator at Blenheim and Malplaquet). He also had a grand niece, Mary of Modena, who maried James II of England. Some connections! Quite aside from his role as regent of France, no wonder Sam found news of his death “very great news and of great consequence.”

• N alex on Fri 5 Mar 2004, 01:50am

  Mazarin’s death is a turning point. He was the effective ruler of France, and now Louis XIV, 23, will take control.

  As a textbook I have notes:

  “Louis XIV, also known as the Sun King, was the most powerful and opulent monarch Europe had seen since the Roman Empire.”

• N Mike Barnas on Fri 5 Mar 2004, 03:02am

  The two Calendars in operation at this time are easy to forget,

  In fact, calendar co-ordination was a major headache for merchants and diplomats for three and a half centuries. Although France, Italy, Luxembourg, Portugal and Spain adopted the Gregorian Calendar in 1582, the year it was promulgated, European Turkey was not on the Gregorian calendar until 1927. Two countries even phased the change in over decades: Switzerland (1583-1812) and Sweden (1753-1844). Given the change (or reversion) to January 1 as New Year’s Day, beginning in 1622, it was not a fair test of sanity, during this protracted transition, to ask a foreigner “What is today’s date?”

• N dirk on Fri 5 Mar 2004, 03:20am

  Calendar convertor

  I just posted a link to an easy to operate (and accurate) conversion engine to the background info, at:
  http://www.pepysdiary.com/p/352.php#c12197

  Use it well and prosper!!!
  

• N David A. Smith on Fri 5 Mar 2004, 03:51pm

  “and of great consequence”
  Following on Alex’s point, Mazarin’s importance was not for his social but his *political* life:

  France was the most powerful country in Europe (and probably the world).
  France was Catholic, with a strong and absolute Monarchy.
  As cardinal, Mazarin was Prime Minister, Home Secretary, and Foreign Secretary all rolled into one.
  Mazarin was heir in both title and skill to the great Richelieu, who had almost singlehandedly overhauled the Louis XIII French state into what would become the Louis XIV colossus.

  With his departure, not only is there a void in French foreign policy, there is the likelihood of turmoil as France shakes itself out. Indeed, ‘of very great consequence’!

• N Kevin Sheerstone on Sat 6 Mar 2004, 11:30am

  Hic Retarius[previously Retearius(?)]

  I agree entirely. I, for one, have gained from this site immeasurably more than I have contributed.

• N vincent on Sat 6 Mar 2004, 09:08pm

  “Hear Hear” Kevin: a sine erudito

• N an Englishman on Sun 3 Oct 2004, 04:44am

  Gentlemen, after her illicit association with the Sun King, Senorina Maria Mancini married Lorenzo Onofrio I, 8th Principe di Paliano. If I may please inquire, did she have any children with her husband? Was Don Filippo II, 9th Principe di Paliano, their son, or was he someone else’s? I am quite curious as to whether he was or was not, gentlemen.

• N an Englishman on Sun 3 Oct 2004, 04:46am

  R.S.V.P.

• N an Englishman on Sun 3 Oct 2004, 04:59am

  Gentlemen, I was referring to Cardinal Mazarin’s niece, of course.