Wednesday 27 February 1660/61

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• N Eeyore on Fri 27 Feb 2004, 11:19pm

  Angry sailors!

• N Susan on Sat 28 Feb 2004, 01:01am

  Sam is so realistic about himself and his failings. He is going to “try” to keep the Lenten Fast. Let’s see if he does! No mention of going to Church today. When did the practice of keeping Ash Wednesday come in to the C of E?? Only with the Oxford Movement in the 19thC?

• N vincent on Sat 28 Feb 2004, 03:30am

  Pharology,-Lighthouse or Pharos?
  Pharos near Alexandria
  http://www.btinternet.com/~k.trethewey/pharos1.html
  
  At Alexandria, one the worlds seven wonders did reside. “…I had some discourse concerning the Light-House again…” some history of this very interesting subject.
  Lighthouse connection.

  http://www.cronab.demon.co.uk/light.htm
  the monks did warn the sailors …Ecclesiastical lights
  then there was money in it
  http://www.btinternet.com/~k.trethewey/owner.html

  
  

• N dirk on Sat 28 Feb 2004, 03:49am

  “Ash Wednesday”

  The Roman-Catholic practice of keeping Ash Wednesday, and the cross on the forehead, had been common in Europe (and Britain) for some 500 years when the Reformation struck. The new churches abolished the practice, and it would only be reinstated (by some of them) centuries later. I haven’t been able to find when exactly this happened in UK.

• N vincent on Sat 28 Feb 2004, 03:53am

  Governments love to impress but when it comes to paying the bill, that is another matter. The RN did in 1932 have a short mutiny because it wanted to deflate the wages. The Invergordon mutiny.
  http://www.roowe.freeserve.co.uk/mutiny.html
  “…begin to pay off the Fleet, beginning with the Hampshire, and do it at Guildhall, for fear of going out of town into the power of the seamen, who are highly incensed against them…”
  pay out in IOU’s and and a few coins of cromwells.

• N Nix on Sat 28 Feb 2004, 04:37am

  The incensed sailors —

  As I recall, a couple of months ago Samuel was quite pleased with his role in developing a plan to pay the sailors off, half in cash and half in promissory notes. Is that what they are angry about? The foreseeable consequence, as discussed at the time, is that cash-starved sailors will wind up selling their scrip at a deep discount, and the speculators who buy up the paper will get rich.

  If that’s what is going on, it is not surprising that the commissioners are afraid for their lives. (Would this also explain the reluctance of Samuel and his colleagues to lend them their clerks a few weeks back?)

• N alex on Sat 28 Feb 2004, 05:28am

  I don’t think observance Ash Wednesday was ever discontinued in the English Church. It was just the use of ashes that was suspended. Remember that C of E service is based on the Book of Common Prayer, and this was frequently condemned by Puritans as an imitation of the Catholic Missal.

• N Lawrence on Sat 28 Feb 2004, 09:40am

  “This day the comissioners of Parliament
  begin to pay off the Fleet” beginning with the Hampshire-and do it a Guildhall for fear of going out of town into the power of the seamen, who are highly incensed against them. The commissioners finished paying off the army on 26 January. The standing army of the revolution was thus peacefully disbanded. L&M.

• N Kevin Sheerstone on Sat 28 Feb 2004, 09:44am

  I am a “little” confused.

  A week ago it was “little Luellin”, now it’s “little Captain Murford”. It seems to me that Mary’s February 20th. annotation had it right - “We have a very good little odd-job man”. I can only assume the usage would have not been considered patronizing in Sam’s time. Does anybody have an OED citation?

• N Emilio on Sat 28 Feb 2004, 04:31pm

  Be-littling

  Sam’s tendency to talk about ‘little’ Luellin or Murford seems like it must be at least a touch condescending. How do we think the captain would respond to being called “little Captain Murford” to his face, after all? Sam no doubt means it affectionately in both cases, but he’s still putting on airs that he could not have dreamed of a year ago.

  I’d say he’s trying on his rise in stature a bit in his private journal, to see how it fits. For me at least the fit isn’t quite natural yet.
  

• N Pauline on Sat 28 Feb 2004, 04:50pm

  “…little Captain Murford…”
  I can’t agree that “little” is being used in condescendence. Captain Murford is a timber merchant, and he is offering Sam an investment opportunity that Sam is interested in.

  Murford is either noticeably small or this is a sort of nickname thing (like junior) because of a father of the same name or an older brother also known to Murford’s circle of acquaintances.

• N Lawrence on Sat 28 Feb 2004, 06:37pm

  “Arr we ave a lovely little chap that comes in and cuts the grass for us”
  Now when I use it like that, I’m not suggesting that he’s short in stature, merely that he’s very agreable to us here in this corner of Oxfordshire, and he has a lovely little wife too.

• N Harry on Sat 28 Feb 2004, 07:32pm

• N vincent on Sat 28 Feb 2004, 10:40pm

  “…little captain…” one is remember’d for the job ye did, many like to be called by their ex military rank, to give stature to their lives I presume.The sgt.majes and col: blimps, capt. blanks [people cannot make up their mind that the PBI mob capt has less statue than the senior service version] and even leutenants [if still the jr. clerke ] Titles are so important to many. So the additional emphasis by adding a moniker like Little is deemed to be an added plus. My take that part of human nature has not really changed. In some cultures the position in the pecking order is part of ones nom de plume {Engeniero Calle} etc.}. As for Little, many times it is applied to those that exceed 2 metre limit {vertical}

• N Susan on Mon 1 Mar 2004, 12:35am

  I accept that to use the word “little” in England in a certain strata of society today is condescending, but was this so in Sam’s day? Words are slippery things. Meanings change. For instance, the word “naughty” in the 16th century carried far stronger connations than it does today and Shakespeare’s “..shines like a good deed in a naughty world…” did not then carry the ambience of the nursery classroom as it does now. Anyone out there with knowledge of the history of English know when the English middle classes started to use “little” in a patronising way? As in “we’ve got a frightfully clever little man who fixes things”

• N vincent on Mon 1 Mar 2004, 02:35am

  little John: 1586: the tale of RC under ground network & priests and their ways under Q E I

  “…Now Nicholas Owen was to serve another remarkable Jesuit, becoming known to the authorities simply as ‘Garnet’s man’. The Catholics he served preferred the more affectionate nickname ‘Little John’. The network of safe houses that Fr Garnet and ‘Little John’ established was to make a major contribution to the survival and character of English Catholicism. …”
  http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~hadland/tvp/tvp9.htm

• N Emilio on Mon 1 Mar 2004, 01:43pm

  Me again

  Although I didn’t mention it above, my response was partly based on consulting the OED. I couldn’t find a simply neutral meaning of ‘little’—when applied to another adult—once you get away from the literal meaning of shortness. Others no doubt disagree, so here are the options I find:

  1a. Of persons: short in stature (1st example - about 1300)
  2a. Used spec. of young children or animals. little one (often pl.): child, offspring, young one. (1st ex. - c. 893)
  2c. In collocations little brother, sister: younger (cf. 2a). Also fig. (1st ex. - 1611)
  3. Used to convey an implication of endearment or depreciation, or of tender feelings on the part of the speaker. (1st ex. - 1567)
  8b. Of persons: Not distinguished, inferior in rank or condition. Now rare. (1st ex. - c. 1220)
  9. Paltry, mean, contemptible; little-minded. (1st ex. - 1483)

  For me, none of these seem entirely appropriate for Sam to use of Murford, who Sam has known a relatively short time and in a business capacity. I know I wouldn’t take it well if a business acquaintance started referring to me as ‘little Emilio’, even if he was talking about stature; I’d think he didn’t take me entirely seriously.
  

• N JonTom Kittredge on Mon 1 Mar 2004, 10:27pm

  Incensed Sailors
  Nix, my recollection is that S.P. was pleased with the original plan he came up for the Navy Board for paying off the fleet, but that Parlaiment balked at the cost, and devised a plan that would fob off the sailors with promissory notes. As I recall, S.P. and colleagues did all they could to avoid having anything to do with this plan, which they were sure would be highly unpopular.