Sunday 2 December 1660

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• N Nix on Tue 2 Dec 2003, 11:03pm

  An ill-tempered day —

  hangover, two church services, lousy lunch … it’s a good thing for Jane that she didn’t piss him off today!

• N A. De Araujo on Tue 2 Dec 2003, 11:43pm

  “my wife and I all alone”whatever happened to his beloved sister Pauline
  aka Pall? Has she heard the screams of Jane and decided that the life of a servant was not for her?

• N Jenny Doughty on Wed 3 Dec 2003, 01:27am

  I found a 17th century recipe for a sauce for mutton, and it does seem sweet to our taste - though when you think about mint sauce with sugar in it, perhaps not that odd.

  To make Sauce for a shoulder of Mutton

  From ‘A True Gentlewomans Delight’, 1653

  To make Sauce for a shoulder of Mutton.

  Take a few Oysters, and some sweet hearbs, and a Onion, and a pint of white Wine, and a little beaten Nutmeg, a little Salt, and a large Mace, a little Lemon pild and a little Sugar, a little leaker posset, if you have no Oysters take Capers in the room of them, and some gravie of the Mutton.
  

• N john lauer on Wed 3 Dec 2003, 02:51am

  that yummy marrow bone — Sam just needed an excuse to hog it all to himself! Who would have made the sweet sawce? He was mad at it (not her).

• N vincent on Wed 3 Dec 2003, 02:59am

  It was not the sweet sauce that upset our poor befuddled SP, it was seeing the empty white wine container and after a dose of Mr Mills Homile too ;P.S. I love that recipe.

• N vincent on Wed 3 Dec 2003, 04:09am

  Tom fuller see[People > Fuller, Thomas (author)] nice anno>

• N vincent on Wed 3 Dec 2003, 04:50am

  interesting play, here I do not fully comprehend ? here goes;
  reads but not pay ?
  “…where I staid reading in Fuller

• N vincent on Wed 3 Dec 2003, 04:58am

  book buying? backtracking see yesterday Kirton.
  “…So to Paul

• N David Quidnunc on Wed 3 Dec 2003, 06:15am

  By at least 7 Oct, Pepys had the book:

  At the tail end of that entry was the first time Pepys says he took up Fuller’s volume for Sunday reading:

  “So walked home by land. And before supper I read part of the Maryan persecution in Mr. Fuller. So to supper, prayer, and to bed.”

  L&M say Pepys was referring to this very book of Fuller’s.

• N Mary on Wed 3 Dec 2003, 07:51am

  sister Pall

  Although it has been agreed that she shall come and live with Sam and Elizabeth in the status of servant, I don’t believe we have yet heard of her arrival in Seething Lane. (Small spoiler follows). In fact she will not move in until January 1661, so she has been spared the sound of Jane’s yelps.

• N bruce on Wed 3 Dec 2003, 08:23am

  Beating Jane, seeing red at the “sawce”, too much drink (despite his better judgement).

  Isn’t Sam displaying classic symptoms of someone over stressed from his work and situation?

• N Kevin Sheerstone on Wed 3 Dec 2003, 10:06am

  ‘…my body out of order by last night’s drinking, which is my great folly’. Given that Sam is ‘talking to himself’ this remark strikes me as a bit more than simply regretting the previous night’s over-indulgence. Is he worried that he might be becoming what we would call an alcoholic. On the other hand, I wonder if anybody would have been deemed an alcoholic in 1660. What with morning draughts, quarts of wine and so on, I have to wonder if Sam or any of his acquaintences would have passed a modern breathalyzer test at any time of the day.

• N Paul Lakin on Wed 3 Dec 2003, 10:52am

• N J A Gioia on Wed 3 Dec 2003, 12:51pm

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• N A. De Araujo on Wed 3 Dec 2003, 12:52pm

  “would have been deemed an alcoholic in 1660” excellent point though at the time alcoholism was considered to be kind of a sin, later it would have been be considered a character fault,only in the middle of the twentieth century it came to be considered a disease.

• N Nix on Wed 3 Dec 2003, 03:56pm

  Not an “alcoholic” —

  OED tells us the earliest appearance of the term as an adjective was in 1790, and as a noun in a century later:

  “2. a. One who is addicted to excessive consumption of alcoholic drinks, a drink addict.
  
  “1891 G. T. KEMP in Q. Jrnl. Inebriety Jan. (Funk), Chronic alcoholics. 1907 Daily Chron. 4 Sept. 3/1 There is..a time coming when the alcoholic will be a rarity. 1909 Westm. Gaz. 25 Feb. 8/1 Warning him that deceased was a

• N Glyn on Wed 3 Dec 2003, 06:46pm

  Is it that Samuel was brought up with English home-cooking i.e. plain food and little use for elaborate sauces, whereas Elizabeth was brought up in a French household with a more sophisticated approach to the culinary arts. If so, I wonder if this dispute has been going on throughout their married life.
  Didn

• N Nix on Fri 5 Dec 2003, 05:41pm

  “a man driven by lust, riven by guilt