Saturday 28 July 1660

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• N Paul Brewster on Tue 29 Jul 2003, 02:41am

  L&M identify it as the Sun tavern not the Swan

• N Paul Brewster on Tue 29 Jul 2003, 02:49am

  L&M: Edward Hanson
  “In July 1660, he was forced to surrender a ‘bullet clock’ which had formerly belonged to Charles I and which he had bought at auction in Dec. 1649. He does not appear in the lists of the Clockmakers’ Company and may have been a dealer. By an order of 17 May 1660 all purchasers of those goods not disposed of to pay Charles I’s debts had to restore either the property or its value to the Crown. Evelyn on 11 Feb. 1655 saw and admired a similar clock belonging to Cromwell. It was work by ’ a Chrystall ball, sliding on parallel Wyers’.”
  

• N Paul Brewster on Tue 29 Jul 2003, 03:05am

  praise of Ireland, whither he and his whole family are going by Coll. Dillon

• N Larry Bunce on Tue 29 Jul 2003, 03:09am

  Panegyrique- speech or writing in praise of someone, listed as panegyric in my Random House unabridged. They trace it from Latin, n. use of panegyric(us) meaning “of or belonging to the public assembly” from Gk “solemn assembly,” but in the 17th century it appears to have been thought of as a French borrowing.

• N vincent on Tue 29 Jul 2003, 03:16am

  “…letter from Poet Fisher, who tells me that he is upon a panegyrique of the King, and desired to borrow a piece of me; and I sent him half a piece….”
  panegyrique: to give high praise, extol the virture of ? ; I guess he did not succeed. It appears his only acclaim to fame is with SP and his diary: (from France, il a fait un panegyrique

• N Sam Sampson on Tue 29 Jul 2003, 08:04am

  The “Bullet” Clock
  The Rev. Humphrey Gainsborough was minister at the Congregational Chapel in Henley, For 28 years, between 1748 and 1776. But it is his contribution as an inventor and engineer for which he will be remembered. More at..
  http://www.henley-on-thames.com/main/archive/mill/mill03.htm
  During the early 17th century rolling ball [bullet] clocks were experimented with at some of the more prestigious scientific courts of Europe. An interesting account by horologist Ray Bates starts at..
  http://www.database.com/~lemur/rbc-clocks.html

• N Sam Sampson on Tue 29 Jul 2003, 08:41am

  Correction
  David M. MacMillan et. al. are authors of the rolling ball clock URL above.

• N Paul Brewster on Tue 29 Jul 2003, 01:34pm

  panegyrique of the King
  L&M add the following: “Untraced; it may have appeared anonymously or pseudonymously or in collaboration. Payne Fisher was most unlikely to have missed this opportunity: that he had composed both a panegyric and a threnody on Oliver Cromwell would not have deterred him.”

  From the OED (I like the 17th century quotes, specifically 1656 Blount):

  Panegyric, n
  [adopted from French, pan

• N helena murphy on Tue 29 Jul 2003, 03:10pm

  Pepys’ignorence and consequent prejudice against Ireland as evident here was commonly found among the middling sort to which Pepys belonged ,despite his social aspirations. It is to be lamented that a man of his ability did not educate himself about the Welsh and the Principality of Wales, and the peoples of the Kingdoms of Scotland and Ireland. Had he done so he would have been a better educated Englishman which might have helped in the acquisition of a knighthood ,an honour which always escaped him.General Monke had served in Ireland and admired the courage and stamina of the people while many Cromwellian soldiers ended up marrying Irish women. A classical education had its cultural limitations and Pepys shows his ignorence here of the wider world.

• N Glyn on Tue 29 Jul 2003, 04:22pm

  Ireland, whither he and his whole family are going by Coll. Dillon’s persuasion

  Presumably as part of the English Protestant colonization of Ireland, with consequences that are still very clear to the Irish and the British, and are continuing.

  People say here that you shouldn’t bring present-day politics into these pages, but the Past is still affecting us. And I hope today’s politicians have learned at least a few lessons from the history of the 17th century (political rant ends).

• N Doug Atkinson on Tue 29 Jul 2003, 06:00pm

  Without knowing what Mr. Butler was saying about Ireland, it seems rather precipitate to speak of “Pepys’ ignorence (sic) and consequent prejudice against Ireland” (on the basis of this entry, anyway—the first entry to mention Ireland in more than passing). If Butler was enthusing about Irish culture and Pepys dismissed him, that’s one thing; if Butler was enthusing about the streets being paved with gold and roving herds of unicorns, that’s quite another.

• N David Bell on Tue 29 Jul 2003, 10:48pm

  Remember that Ireland was, in the context of the time, something of a dangerous place. The prejudice against the Irish was partly driven by the deep distrust of Catholicism, and heavily soured by the civil wars.

  Charles, father and son, had used Irish troops in England and Scotland, and the Parliamentarian forces had a sorry record of massacres of Irish prisoners, though perhaps not as common as the Scots.

  And then there had been Cromwell,

  Neither side could really bring themselves to trust the other. There had been too much hatred.

• N Bullus Hutton on Thu 31 Jul 2003, 12:04am

  My compliments to Glyn on his elegant withdrawal from political comment; we all do indeed visit this site to savour the phenomenum of Pepys. Those of us in the New World (geographically speaking) carry our own political baggage, and are well content with the kind of revelation we find in the first two lines of todays entry, which clearly shows the origin of the phrase frequently used in our society: “everybody wants a piece of me ..”

• N vincent on Fri 8 Aug 2003, 09:30pm

  On this day the House of Lords did on 28th July according to John Evelyn, important bills were passed, They were
  Bills of Tunnage & Poundage, Restoring L. Ormand (Whose sonne Lord Ossory is J E’ s friend) to his Estate in Ireland, The bill concerning commission of Sewers (He has an Interest in the subject) and the continuance of the Excise. Now there is money for running the Navy (maybe).

• N vincent on Sat 9 Aug 2003, 03:36am

  Duke of Ormond according to J.Evelyn did go on about the Irelands lack of poyson snakes and ” no moules in Ireland and ratts ‘til of late” ” took Salmon with dogs 15 nov 61: Maybe these kind of stories were circulating? to cause SP to say what he did say.