Monday 2 July 1660

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• N vincent on Wed 2 Jul 2003, 11:20pm

  Purser(pusser) are well known to get good deals ’ tis their nature;

  Sir George Carteret , John, Lord Berkely (of Stratton) divided up New Jersey http://www.bartleby.com/65/be/BerkeleyJ.html
  Officers and commissioners all big wheeler dealers:
  
  

• N chip on Thu 3 Jul 2003, 02:17am

  How curious that 3 of 8 names on the list go on to found two colonies in the states, next to one another! Although I believe it is William Penn’s son that stands on the top of city hall in Philadelphia, facing east by the way.

• N Paul Brewster on Thu 3 Jul 2003, 02:37am

  to draw up such an order of the Council as would put us into action before our patents were passed
  L&M: “These orders were issued by the Privy Council on 4 July, and had the effect of bringing the existing (temporary) Admiralty commissions to an end, of empowering the new Navy Board to act, and of having all papers delivered to Pepys.”

• N Paul Brewster on Thu 3 Jul 2003, 03:24am

  to let me pay my club
  from the OED, club n.
  10. a. A combination of contributions to make up a total sum, e.g. to defray the expense of an entertainment. Obs.
  1659

• N vincent on Thu 3 Jul 2003, 04:17am

  William Penn the son is the one that got the Land Grant for the Great State and who helped Plan Philly: because CII owed the father monies; the Penn Penn was a Quaker, for the layout of Philly
  http://xroads.virginia.edu/~CAP/PENN/pnplan.html
  more :http://www.dep.state.pa.us/dep/PA_Env-Her/William_Penn.htm
  short brief on the son
  http://www.americaslibrary.gov/jb/colonial/jb_colonial_penn_2.html
  

• N Mary on Thu 3 Jul 2003, 05:44am

  let me pay my club

  I wonder if Pepys misunderstood his invitation or whether Purser Washington phrased it badly? Until comparatively recently in UK (at least in London) an invitation to eat WITH someone in a public place meant that one’s meal would be paid for, but an invitation to JOIN someone for a meal meant that one paid one’s own way. Has anyone any idea how far back this distinction was recognised?

• N Grahamt on Thu 3 Jul 2003, 06:53am

  Club in this sense is not as obsolete as OED says:
  It is still common to say to “club together” to pay for something in common.

• N A. De Araujo on Thu 3 Jul 2003, 12:31pm

  “to invite me and to let me pay” It is called “Dutch Treat” in New York and I believe in the english speaking places in general

• N Susanna on Thu 3 Jul 2003, 07:21pm

  Also North and South Carolina

  Sir George Carteret and John, Lord Berkeley, who as Vincent noted would become the proprietors of the New Jersey colony, were also among the Lords Proprietors of the Carolina colony (the future North and South Carolina). Both Sir George and Lord John are still remembered in the names of counties in the Carolinas, Carteret in North Carolina and Berkeley in South Carolina.

  The other Lords Proprietors of Carolina, by the way, were our old friend Sir Anthony Ashley Cooper, Earl of Shaftesbury; John Colleton of Barbados; Edward Hyde, Earl of Clarendon; the kingmaker himself, George Monck, Duke of Albemarle; Sir William Berkeley (Lord John’s brother); and William, Lord Craven.

• N Jay Sames on Sat 20 Jan 2007, 09:59pm

  For the record, I’m almost certain that the statue of William Penn atop Philadelphia’s City Hall faces south, down Broad Street.